1000w hps vs 500 true wats led?

JoeBlow5823 · Apr 29, 2020

2Hearts said:
Why dont they sell an 800w hps version/model or add it to the dimmable 1000w ballasts because sometimes a 1000w is just a touch too much but a 600w not quite enough. The hps could use even increments of 150/200w and start really competing again.

They make a 750 and most ballasts will run at 750

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Top brands like hortilux and ushio dont make 750s. You could always run your 1000w bulb at 750w or even boosted 10-15% making it just over 800w too.

Or run a 600w and supplement with one of these

https://www.amazon.com/Sun-System-Grow-Lights-Hydroponics/dp/B00KM1EXXW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=37PVJ008BALI1&dchild=1&keywords=sun+system+150w+hps&qid=1588186953&sprefix=sun+system+1%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-3

Buddernugs · Apr 29, 2020

Ok thx guys hears Y set up at the moment going to go get a 3x3 flood table soon and put a small pump in their to pump oit the water hopefully I can fill out that tent with 4 auto flowers to make a 1000w worth it

Dr. Who · Apr 29, 2020

JoeBlow5823 said:
Those are pretty badass leds but im still thinking they are a bit small for a 2x2 footprint but i could be wrong. A 1000w hps is sort of ideal for a 4x4 if the heat isnt an issue. If it is an issue which typically it is, go with led.

These are the lights a lot of LED guys are drooling on right now.

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CLOSE but, missed it by >< that much!

Look for the V3's with the newer Lm301H Samsung LED's - Higher umal output!
There are custom builders out there who will build you a better board then HLG AND use the same components, from the same source's.....
He charges about $500 vs HLG's $850.

Why pay for a name? Same parts, same warranty...... Save a few bucks...

You can step that up to a 600w uniy with 50% more LED's and delivers the equal to a 1K DE....

2Hearts · Apr 29, 2020

Just need a full unit proper dimming no turning off and on, digi readout led screen with programable presetss, waterproof to a depth of four foot, 100w to 1000w in 50w increments, indestructable bulb and a reflector material that dosent heat up so much.

Hps or even cmh could do better in my opinion.

JoeBlow5823 said:
They make a 750 and most ballasts will run at 750

single end

Amazon.com: Plantmax 750 Watt High Pressure Sodium Lamp - 1 Pack : Patio, Lawn & Garden

Amazon.com: Plantmax 750 Watt High Pressure Sodium Lamp - 1 Pack : Patio, Lawn & Garden

www.amazon.com

double end

Agrosun 750W HPS Double-Ended Lamp, 400V

Buy the Agrosun 750W HPS Double-Ended Lamp, 400V at Hydrobuilder.com. Shop the entire line of Agrosun products along with thousands of hydroponics supplies on sale now.

hydrobuilder.com

Top brands like hortilux and ushio dont make 750s. You could always run your 1000w bulb at 750w or even boosted 10-15% making it just over 800w too.

Or run a 600w and supplement with one of these

https://www.amazon.com/Sun-System-Grow-Lights-Hydroponics/dp/B00KM1EXXW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=37PVJ008BALI1&dchild=1&keywords=sun+system+150w+hps&qid=1588186953&sprefix=sun+system+1%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-3

Buddernugs · Apr 29, 2020

Ok got the xxxl 8” sun system hood...holy shit 1 more inch longer and it wouldn’t fit...picked up a mag ballist to...thx guys for your input you helped me a lot I appreciate it

Buddernugs · Apr 29, 2020

I’ll start costing pics tomorrow

jimihendrix1 · Apr 29, 2020

Not 100% positive but I believe when one dims an HID, it mucks with the light spectrum.

a mongo frog · Apr 29, 2020

jimihendrix1 said:
Not 100% positive but I believe when one dims an HID, it mucks with the light spectrum.

I heard the same. Led must be different.

Buddernugs · Apr 29, 2020

jimihendrix1 said:
Use the Hortilux HPS. Has the highest umol. 1600umol.

Yaaaaaa about the so I picked one up doesn’t my clumsy ass slip and dropped it......it exploded...... grabbing another one tomorrow on a side note when do us put them under the 1000w I got some led optic1xl’s I figured I can get away with 4-5 weeks under them then put them under the 1000w mh...you think that’s sufficient or should I put them in their strait out the gate? Also whst should my hang height be threw out growth?

T macc · Apr 29, 2020

Dr. Who said:
CLOSE but, missed it by >< that much!

Look for the V3's with the newer Lm301H Samsung LED's - Higher umal output!
There are custom builders out there who will build you a better board then HLG AND use the same components, from the same source's.....
He charges about $500 vs HLG's $850.

Why pay for a name? Same parts, same warranty...... Save a few bucks...

You can step that up to a 600w uniy with 50% more LED's and delivers the equal to a 1K DE....

Without me doing a web search (tho I will), can you recommend someone building these V3's?

2Hearts · Apr 29, 2020

I think this has been covered to death, it might change it a little but high wattage ensures its pretty similar. Low watt leds suffer more than high watt stuff.

jimihendrix1 said:
Not 100% positive but I believe when one dims an HID, it mucks with the light spectrum.

Dr. Who · Apr 30, 2020

T macc said:
Without me doing a web search (tho I will), can you recommend someone building these V3's?

I sent you a PM on this.

For the rest of you.... I will be adding his information and how to get these boards, as I unpack them and set them up with some pic's and a new thread.
I will be doing a side by side half room of THESE LED boards vs 1K HID's - Half the room LED and Half the room 1K's

The LED half will have a name brand HLG Lm3012B chip set board in their to see if they are any different then the custom built Lm3021H boards.

Buddernugs · Apr 30, 2020

Hear is the new set up, thx again guys.... that light had me scared for a few min I didn’t think it was going to fit lol.... well at least now I will rest Easy knowing I have complete coverage lol going today to get a replacement light and also to pick up a 7100k mh I figured I can veg 4 of them in the small tent for like 3-4 weeks then throw them under the 1000w mh for 1-3 weeks then throw in the 1000w hortalux

HomegrownGenetics420 · Apr 30, 2020

I use 2 HLG 550 V2 R Spec they peak at 480w each.

With 960w total I'm consistently hitting 2-2.5lb and 3-4 is most definitely possible

getogrow · Apr 30, 2020

HomegrownGenetics420 said:
I use 2 HLG 550 V2 R Spec they peak at 480w each.

With 960w total I'm consistently hitting 2-2.5lb and 3-4 is most definitely possible

how much area are we covering with two of those ?

HomegrownGenetics420 · Apr 30, 2020

getogrow said:
how much area are we covering with two of those ?

5'x9' Gorilla Grow tent... check out my youtube channel and grow journals on here. Uploads with my new setup will be up shortly

getogrow · Apr 30, 2020

HomegrownGenetics420 said:
5'x9' Gorilla Grow tent... check out my youtube channel and grow journals on here. Uploads with my new setup will be up shortly

thats almost perfect. im looking to cover a 6x10. Thanks

HomegrownGenetics420 · Apr 30, 2020

getogrow said:
thats almost perfect. im looking to cover a 6x10. Thanks

If you want to really crush it you could throw a 3rd HLG into the mix. Can really get close to 2lb/light with these if you know what you're doing and have good genetics

getogrow · Apr 30, 2020

HomegrownGenetics420 said:
If you want to really crush it you could throw a 3rd HLG into the mix. Can really get close to 2lb/light with these if you know what you're doing and have good genetics

do you run those full blast , 480 ? are there any good reasons to not run full blast ? Lastly , do you HAVE to slam those lights on top of the canopy , or can they be up a couple foot ? Thanks man , i know the info is alreay here but i cant seem to find the answers IM looking for .....you have helped tremendously !

HomegrownGenetics420 · Apr 30, 2020

getogrow said:
do you run those full blast , 480 ? are there any good reasons to not run full blast ? Lastly , do you HAVE to slam those lights on top of the canopy , or can they be up a couple foot ? Thanks man , i know the info is alreay here but i cant seem to find the answers IM looking for .....you have helped tremendously !

I run them full blast only in flower, for veg I go to about 50%. I run a 18/6 cycle for veg so I can use 50% less light intensity compared to flower, but still achieving the same DLI. The lights are about 2'-2.5' above the canopy and I'm still hitting around 1100 PPFD. They are very powerful and efficient lights for a great price. The only better design would be the lights than use multiple strips attached to one fixture (Check out the Scynce LED Raging Kush for example). Those style lights have a more uniform light spread compared to the HLG, but if you have the grooming skills combined with a SCROG, you can get the same performance from a HLG for 1/2 the price

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