1000Watt One Plant Pineapple Express Closet Grow

forsure man my girl is about 2 ft tall now she's about 5 weeks old. a combination of things could been keeping her short but with 1000watts all on one plant we should be seeing more! temp changes can really mess with her! my baby was reaching as high as 95 and as low as 65 on the same day sometimes I got it under control and growth has accelerated
 
Look how bushy my bitch is, 5 weeks into veg

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Topped her once, woke up this morning and she was growing into the lights haha. Had to lower her a bit. Hoping to flower in a couple weeks...gotta grab some 2700k cfls and the bloom nutrient and I should be good to fucking go. Fo a first timer, it's been going so well

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Hey man, sorry for the late reply, got very drunk last night and lost track of time!
Lol sorry bro, i did mean veg not begging, mustve hit the b instead of v :lol:
Mate stunted growth can be from a number of things, res temps (should be about 22 celcius), pH if it swings wildly (ive had mad pH swings before and the plant has still grown well though), overwatering if the feeds are too big and to often (should be 15 mins every 3 hours depending on what size pump you have) and air circulation ( i have 5 fans going in mine at all times). It does sound like yours should be on the rebound now though as you've correct all of these things, you should start to see some proper growth now. Maybe even try backing off of the feeding a bit as she looks a bit droopy, it may be that the perlite isnt drying out enough in between feeds...sorry i cant be of more help mate!
 
Cannabis.Is.Free said:
nice plant but mine is almost 20 days almost the same height man
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You talking about mines or Herbgaji's?? Herbs is growing under cfls so his growth wont be the same as ours as we're using HID lighting. If your talking about mines she has went through some problems this week with the pH swinging like crazy and locking out the phosphorous. Besides that she has been growing pretty good being this is my 1st hydro run.
 
PatchKid said:
forsure man my girl is about 2 ft tall now she's about 5 weeks old. a combination of things could been keeping her short but with 1000watts all on one plant we should be seeing more! temp changes can really mess with her! my baby was reaching as high as 95 and as low as 65 on the same day sometimes I got it under control and growth has accelerated
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yea mos def bro it is something that is really stunting her growth and it has to be the pH swings or the temp changes cus I was off this weekend and got to monitor the closet a lil more and it seems the temps are still rising like crazy. Looked at my hygrometer and temp said 94!!! I was shocked to see this as I tested all this before I set it up. I still haven't added the extra exhaust fan to my light so I'm gonna do that today. Its starting to stress me out a lil bit cus I'm doing everything I can to get this girl where she needs to be and it seems like things keep happening to prevent me from doing it. She's def looking a lot better but the new growth is still coming out slightly yellow. I must have really burned her cus this is the only thing I can think of is to why she's still growing discolored leaves and shoots but she hasn't stopped growing tho thx weed God :). I hoping for the best these next few days
 
eastcoastmo said:
Hey man, sorry for the late reply, got very drunk last night and lost track of time!
Lol sorry bro, i did mean veg not begging, mustve hit the b instead of v :lol:
Mate stunted growth can be from a number of things, res temps (should be about 22 celcius), pH if it swings wildly (ive had mad pH swings before and the plant has still grown well though), overwatering if the feeds are too big and to often (should be 15 mins every 3 hours depending on what size pump you have) and air circulation ( i have 5 fans going in mine at all times). It does sound like yours should be on the rebound now though as you've correct all of these things, you should start to see some proper growth now. Maybe even try backing off of the feeding a bit as she looks a bit droopy, it may be that the perlite isnt drying out enough in between feeds...sorry i cant be of more help mate!
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Its all good bro I know you will help when you have the time so Im not worried but res temp is fine its not in the closet so its staying where it needs to be. The pH is still swinging a lil but not bad as it was when I had the Silica in it. Could it be the algae that is swinging the pH too??? I really don't wanna have to keep using pH down to adjust the pH where it needs to be but this is what im having to do almost every couple days. Could it be something in the perlite?? That's hard to believe since we know how good perlite is but I rinsed it very well before I used it. I dunno bro but its bugging me a lil now and I think this is why I stayed from hydro so long as I control things a lot better with soil cus is more forgiving lol but hopefully things will start to get back well soon. Also does high temps mess with the pH even if the res isn't in the room with the pot? Bro you been help since ive started this girl and I cant appreciate you enough. Anybody else with hydro experience can chime in anytime. I need all the help I can get. Will post pix of her today soon about to go get the other exhaust fan.
 
Nah bro it wouldnt be the algae, more likely to be your water supply having calcium carbonate in it which likes to buffer the pH a bit higher, i know my water supply has it in it so when my nute mixture is in with the tap water, the calcium carbonate tends to buffer it out. With a full dose of silica its even worse. Im still adjusting my nutes each day but only with a few drops of pH down which is phosphoric acid anyway. Doesnt seem to be hurting my girl at all :)

Temperature does play a part in pH but generally only in salt water where salinity is affected and calcium carbonate is harder for calcareous organisms to uptake it and utilise it for building their structure.
 
eastcoastmo said:
Nah bro it wouldnt be the algae, more likely to be your water supply having calcium carbonate in it which likes to buffer the pH a bit higher, i know my water supply has it in it so when my nute mixture is in with the tap water, the calcium carbonate tends to buffer it out. With a full dose of silica its even worse. Im still adjusting my nutes each day but only with a few drops of pH down which is phosphoric acid anyway. Doesnt seem to be hurting my girl at all :)

Temperature does play a part in pH but generally only in salt water where salinity is affected and calcium carbonate is harder for calcareous organisms to uptake it and utilise it for building their structure.
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Eastcoast it can't be the calcium cus my tap water is only 45 ppm unless that small amount is still buffering it pretty high. I'm using tap too cus the ppm is already low but it's tons of chlorine and fluoride in it so that could be buffering it high too. I always fill my extra bucket with water days before so it can sit and let some of it out. I have read where people bubble the water for a day so imma try that and see how that affects the water. The pH is very high though 8.2 so I'm thinking it is the chlorine and fluoride buffering it every high. I'm adjusting the same way with phosphoric acid maybe two days but mostly everyday and if yours is ok mines should be ok. I just don't want to have to keep doing that cus I think that's what happened with the lockout me using the adjusters tryna keep the pH in range but all honesty my girl wasn't ready for the XL. I had fimmed her not too long before and she hadn't recovered but everything is getting back to normal. She's getting her color back and I think will soon start to take off. Thx for being here bro
 
Man it definitely sounds like your tap water thats buffering it higher, if your pH is 8.2 it would definitely be the chlorine, flouride and calcium carbonates. It wouldnt be a high amount but enough to make buffering acidic nearly impossible. My tap water here is 7.4 -7.6 so when i add the adjuster is goes down to about 6-6.2 and then i add a drop or 2 each day and it stays around the 5.8-6 mark :)
Only thing that will get rid of your pH swings mate is bottled water unfortunately!
 
Yea I figured it was the high pH of the water. I also added one of the soil moisture meters in the pot and it's telling me the medium it's too acidic which I'm sure is coming from the high pH of my tap water. Next flush I'm gonna have to flush her with a low pH water somewhere at 5 so I can bring the pH down in the pot. She's still doing pretty good tho getting very big. I have her tied down now 3 dominate tops the fourth is too short so it should catch up soon. I think imma start getting some RO water by the gallon from my grocery store so that should help with the pH swings. I also lowered the light back down cus she wasn't stretching for the light like I thought. Gonna try to go through this grow with this bulb but if I see growth is still progressing slowly after getting the RO water to help the pH then I know it's the bulb for sure. I almost got her dialed in but I'm satisfied that she didn't die :). Will have pix up tonight when I get home from work
 
The Herbinator said:
Looking mighty fine man!

Can't wait to see how much you get from her.

How long are you thinking of vegging for?
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Thx bro she would be better but she's been going through some tough times these past couple weeks but she's hanging in there and still growing. I can't wan to see her take off fareal but she's very indica so it's taking yea while to get up there plus the hiccups but she's almost back to normal. I really don't know how long imma veg her for since I had issues with her so ill just wait till she gets to the size I want her then flip her. I have a tall closet so I'm tryna get her a big as I can before the flip
 
I see you're going through some tough times with this grow man, if I were you I would be hella stressed out that's how I get about my babies if anything goes wrong! it's a bad habit lol

If I were you I would stick to a plain soil or some kind of basic bubbleponics system, this looks like there's too much that can go wrong and it's hard to keep up with!

also hey James I figured you'd be happy to see what my closet looks like at the moment :)

got my new dwc bucket in there bubbling and all setup for whatever I wanna put in there

and a few other seeds
- 1 BioDiesel Mass Autoflower
- 1 Bubba Kush Regular
- 1 Obsession Feminized
- 1 Alaskan Thunderfuck Regular

I'm thinking I just wanna grow 2 of these I will pick out the best looking ones :)


 
PatchKid said:
I see you're going through some tough times with this grow man, if I were you I would be hella stressed out that's how I get about my babies if anything goes wrong! it's a bad habit lol

If I were you I would stick to a plain soil or some kind of basic bubbleponics system, this looks like there's too much that can go wrong and it's hard to keep up with!

also hey James I figured you'd be happy to see what my closet looks like at the moment :)

got my new dwc bucket in there bubbling and all setup for whatever I wanna put in there

and a few other seeds
- 1 BioDiesel Mass Autoflower
- 1 Bubba Kush Regular
- 1 Obsession Feminized
- 1 Alaskan Thunderfuck Regular

I'm thinking I just wanna grow 2 of these I will pick out the best looking ones :)


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Ahhhh Alaskan thunderfuck me please lol...god it's been too long.

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PatchKid said:
I see you're going through some tough times with this grow man, if I were you I would be hella stressed out that's how I get about my babies if anything goes wrong! it's a bad habit lol

If I were you I would stick to a plain soil or some kind of basic bubbleponics system, this looks like there's too much that can go wrong and it's hard to keep up with!

also hey James I figured you'd be happy to see what my closet looks like at the moment :)

got my new dwc bucket in there bubbling and all setup for whatever I wanna put in there

and a few other seeds
- 1 BioDiesel Mass Autoflower
- 1 Bubba Kush Regular
- 1 Obsession Feminized
- 1 Alaskan Thunderfuck Regular

I'm thinking I just wanna grow 2 of these I will pick out the best looking ones :)
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Im stressed a lil but not really bro. I've had way worse happen I'm previous grows before but that's shy I smoke this stuff so I won't be lol :) but I'm a laid back dude so I keep stress pinned down till it blows up on me lol. I would've stuck to soil but I really wanted to step up my game more soil is very easy and forgiving so I really wanted to take my horticulture skills up a notch but to be honest Patch this is the most easiest hydro system I think that's out there bro real talk. I studied a lot before I chose which system I would use and this is by far the easiest. Honestly everything has been ok expect for pH swings and I know it's my tap water I'm using so I'm just gonna get some gallons of RO water to mix with it and it should be fine. I'll prolly go back to Silica too since I'll have better water to start with. But those bubble system a is where a lot of people have problems with mines it's not the system is the water I'm using. It's really good that it's tds is only 45 so I can add all nutes like need to but high pH with the chlorine and fluoride in it is swinging pH hard but I'll be good bro. Just wait and see but man that's wassup bro do the damn thing lol. Grow the thunderfuck if it's the real deal you will love it. I'm a sativa man :) I'm gonna get the Thunderfuck from Dr Greenthumb. It's straight fire good luck with the DWC bro
 
akhiymjames said:
Yea I figured it was the high pH of the water. I also added one of the soil moisture meters in the pot and it's telling me the medium it's too acidic which I'm sure is coming from the high pH of my tap water. Next flush I'm gonna have to flush her with a low pH water somewhere at 5 so I can bring the pH down in the pot. She's still doing pretty good tho getting very big. I have her tied down now 3 dominate tops the fourth is too short so it should catch up soon. I think imma start getting some RO water by the gallon from my grocery store so that should help with the pH swings. I also lowered the light back down cus she wasn't stretching for the light like I thought. Gonna try to go through this grow with this bulb but if I see growth is still progressing slowly after getting the RO water to help the pH then I know it's the bulb for sure. I almost got her dialed in but I'm satisfied that she didn't die :). Will have pix up tonight when I get home from work
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Might be a good idea with the RO water mate, at least try it for a week and see if it works, at least you'll know then :)
 
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