100W Stealth Ikea Cabinet

Hugely relevant advices!!

I shouldn't be that surprised of this, since we're on the famous RollItUp, but it still amazes me every time!

ComputerSaysNo said:

Hand watering must be quite inconvenient in such a small space, and you also have to deal with run-off water etc. That all goes away with an AutoPot.
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In that case it truly becomes a hands-off system, very convenient and controlled.

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I've read a ton lately about hands-off systems, coco and hydroponics, living soil etc and i was basically set to buy a SIP (sub irrigated planter) soon after the next cycle, so that i could at least finish up all the soil i already bought and try out all the fabric pots i have.

I had in mind something like this (neat, clean, functional):
https://www.amazon.it/Lechuza-21-LS-Premium-espresso-quadro/dp/B00KWCSMVK/

Runoff isn't really a problem. Stopped watering to runoff with Biobizz and fabric pots since it isn't needed at all. Biobizz says that and i didn't come across any problems.

AutoPot sounds nice, even has a catchy name, will research for sure!

Mak'er Grow said:

... you may want to put in standoffs or create some space between the driver and panel.

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I have a couple ideas on that, will try them out. Just need more time cause work is kinda killing me atm.

ComputerSaysNo said:

Well, technically that's not ROI...

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Totally agree with everything you said, ROI used just as a simplification

It's on casters too? That's sweet!! Nice job. I mean, other than the big honkin filter jutting out of the side and all your "weed stuff" on top, it's totally stealth lol jk!

I love it. You DIY'd the hell out of this.

Entusia said:

I had in mind something like this (neat, clean, functional):
https://www.amazon.it/Lechuza-21-LS-Premium-espresso-quadro/dp/B00KWCSMVK/
AutoPot sounds nice, even has a catchy name, will research for sure!

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This planter costs more than a single AutoPot w/o the tank; would definitely take the AutoPot in that case. Also, you can build them yourself (the SIPs) at practically no cost. Check out "Weed in a Pot" on YT for a demonstration on how to build an SIP.

I would try the AutoPot, it will cost you less than €40, and it's available everywhere where grow equipment is sold. Also has the advantage of being modular, so you can go 2x8l pots or 2x15l or 1x15l, all connected to the same tank. They also offer 20l fabric pots now.

You can use the AutoPot with soil just fine, even feed organically and then just water from the tank. It's only that coco + hydro ferts is really so controlled and simple; point can be made for pure organics because of better taste.

Coco is also more clean; I really hate to handle messy soil in my apartment, and then the BioBizz stuff that stains everything.

PopAndSonGrows said:

It's on casters too? That's sweet!! Nice job. I mean, other than the big honkin filter jutting out of the side and all your "weed stuff" on top, it's totally stealth lol jk!

I love it. You DIY'd the hell out of this.

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No problem, i love irony, sarcasm and even a bit of banter

Luckily i have an hollow cabinet to slide above the "big honkin filter" (i actually like the nickname, it's accurate ) and the weed stuff was there just because watering and also because i was alone... it usually isn't there.

Build is also pretty fucking sturdy, i even tried flipping it

ComputerSaysNo said:

This planter costs more than a single AutoPot w/o the tank; would definitely take the AutoPot in that case. Also, you can build them yourself (the SIPs) at practically no cost. Check out "Weed in a Pot" on YT for a demonstration on how to build an SIP.

I would try the AutoPot, it will cost you less than €40, and it's available everywhere where grow equipment is sold. Also has the advantage of being modular, so you can go 2x8l pots or 2x15l or 1x15l, all connected to the same tank. They also offer 20l fabric pots now.

You can use the AutoPot with soil just fine, even feed organically and then just water from the tank. It's only that coco + hydro ferts is really so controlled and simple; point can be made for pure organics because of better taste.

Coco is also more clean; I really hate to handle messy soil in my apartment, and then the BioBizz stuff that stains everything.

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The only problem is i don't have any space to accomodate a tank, especially if it needs to stay above the pot.

The SIP is way more convenient, but you know i haven't decided yet, probably gonna buy a tent for the basement too in the future (gonna be legal here in like a year tops) so i will definitely cherish the advice. Reading about it, it seems exactly what i would use if i had the necessary space.

Entusia said:

The only problem is i don't have any space to accomodate a tank, especially if it needs to stay above the pot.

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You would have to put the tank in the side-cabinet, and thread the hose through into the main cabinet. The tank does not have to be "above" the plants, only about 15-20cm higher than the base of the AutoPots. So the tank would have to sit on a pedestal of some sort. Should be possible to fit that in with the air filter somehow.

You could also create a "stealth tank" and put it on top of the cabinet. Then make it look unconspicuous. That would also be super convenient with regards to refilling it. Creating a 10 or even 20 litre tank that is flat and wide should be easy enough.

Entusia said:

gonna buy a tent for the basement too in the future (gonna be legal here in like a year tops)

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Now I'm curious as to which country you're in. Obviously in EU, but which of the countries is close to liberalizing?

Now you know what country i'm from, but everybody else doesn't, let's keep it that way

Also, some political-leaning comments were removed by the Moderators on my request: i absolutely hate politics and getting involved in discussions about it.

Let's keep this on topic: we were growing some weed weren't we?

Well, final harvest after drying and dry-trimming is 85gs of beautiful but much fluffier than expected sticky icky buds! (Thanks, Summer...)
10gs out of the 85gs is larfy undergrowth that i'm keeping separated from the rest, will be using it for edibles so brownies and cookies are inc-fucking-coming brothers and sisters!

Trimmed with tweezers to keep all the buds in optimal shape... needless to say it took a few hours
Obviously kept all the trim (a nice quite resiny bagful) to make some hash out of it when it's dried up for good. Put the bag on top of an old speaker, which is a bit warm to the touch and vibrates all day long since i'm listening to music during work

Since the trimming was taking so long i already started tasting some larf while trimming, and i found it smokes somewhat harsher than what i'm used to, even though buds have been dried for a whopping 6 days at 26 °C and 60-65% RH (and small twigs had just started to become "snappy").

Everything is inside sealed containers, each containing a remote radio hygrometer and a boveda 62% pack for every 30g of flowers.



Here are some more pics:

Entusia said:

Now you know what country i'm from, but everybody else doesn't, let's keep it that way
Also, some political-leaning comments were removed by the Moderators on my request: i absolutely hate politics and getting involved in discussions about it.

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Yeah, I didn't feel so great about my comments either after I had made them. It's between us now, I hope you did not take it personally. It wasn't meant that way.

Entusia said:

Trimmed with tweezers to keep all the buds in optimal shape... needless to say it took a few hours

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It takes surprisingly long, doesn't it? At least it's fun, reaping the rewards. Up to a point...

I don't think it matters that they look fluffy, they won't smoke differently because of it. Looks beautiful, and they'll only get better with curing time.

Here we are at the start of the newest cycle, an Autoflowering one, with temperatures hopefully much more forgiving

Genetics were bought some months ago, kinda randomly:
- 1 Auto Mandarina by Oaseeds has quickly sank in the shot glass and germinated in a soaked + domed coco coir pod
- unlike her, all 5 of the Auto Purple Glam Kush by Bulk Seedbank (bought months ago, properly stored in fridge) that i tried germinating along the first one and in the next days unfortunately look like they failed to germinate with many different methods: shot glass method, damp tissue method, straight into pod method.

I will keep all the Auto Purple Glam Kushes there where they are just in case... maybe one of them will eventually succeed. I guess it could be just a bad batch of seeds or bad luck, but this also speaks about the quality control of Bulk Seedbank. I will definitely stay away from this company's gear in the future.

As a safety precaution i started 2 more seeds that i've already tried in the past, that had germinated quickly, but that I failed to grow properly and were severely stunted. I harvested only 11 grams in total with 4 plants (huge fail lol), but they were still a great smoke:
- Sweet Tooth Auto by Barney's Farm
- AK48 Auto by Nirvana

One of these will grow with a delay of 5 days or more with respect to the Auto Mandarina. Hopefully this won't be a big problem.
What do you think about such a delay?

Thanks y'all for following this dairy, and as usual... we keep going!

Here is the Auto Mandarina at day 8, she's slightly faster than the previous cycle's bagseed, so i transplanted her into a bigger fabric pot.

UR 75%, Temp 26 °C, Light is on 24/7 atm



This time I wanted to use less volcanic lapilli than last time. The substrate was drying too quickly, in fact after less than two days from having irrigated the leaves already started drooping, as if they lacked water (perhaps also due to the considerable air recirculation).

So, the substrate this time is a mix of:
1 part of "Universal Bio soil for green/flowering plants"
1 part of "Bio soil for fruiting plants" soil (w/ addition of fine river sand)
1 part of Perlite
1/4 part of Coco coir
1/4 part of Volcanic lapillus (just the bedding)
1 spoonful of Dolomitic lime and Gypsum salts (for additional supply of K, Ca, S and Mg and pH balancing of peat-dominant mix)

How do you plan to train the plant? You've planted it off-center, so I assume you will bend the main stem?

ComputerSaysNo said:

How do you plan to train the plant? You've planted it off-center, so I assume you will bend the main stem?

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You got it, my plan is bending + scrogging this Auto Mandarina and quadlining the other one, just to try something new.

Entusia said:

quadlining the other one

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Have you looked at the manifolding technique that is used by Nebula Haze of GrowWeedEasy? She creates two mains by topping once, then lets each main grow out to 4 nodes, then tops each main and removes the middle node on each. That leaves her with 8 branches. It looks like a super effective method, it's not as symmetrical as classical mainlining, but uses a lot less time during veg.
Not suitable for auto-flowering strains, of course.

Comprehensive description of the technique: https://www.growweedeasy.com/manifold

ComputerSaysNo said:

Have you looked at the manifolding technique that is used by Nebula Haze of GrowWeedEasy? She creates two mains by topping once, then lets each main grow out to 4 nodes, then tops each main and removes the middle node on each. That leaves her with 8 branches. It looks like a super effective method, it's not as symmetrical as classical mainlining, but uses a lot less time during veg.
Not suitable for auto-flowering strains, of course.

Comprehensive description of the technique: https://www.growweedeasy.com/manifold

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Yup, read it. As you stated it's not suitable for autoflowering strains so will definitely try it out next year with the OG Kushes my friend will give to me.

Always growing...

Day 15 Auto Mandarina


Day 8 Ak48 Auto

So this run up here ended poorly...
In the last few months i had took up a lot of work and also had to go on a work trip.
Lacked the time to properly take care of these girls and they didn't do great without me...

I just started another seedling though!
This time a feminized photoperiod strain, OG Kush!
I don't have much free time in my schedule, so just the one plant.





I'll also be using a commercial soil mix (Biobizz All Mix) instead of a DIY soil mix.

Take care guys!

P.S: Hopefully i won't be going abroad for work in the next few months, at least

Very cool set up!

Here we are, 14 days after the sprout first appeared from the ground.

This OG Kush definitely isn't the most vital seedling i've grown so far, but she's a soldier!
The first leaves came out already pretty battered, I didn't really do anything that could damage them in this way.

Go figure out what's wrong...



P.S: I'm a really, really lucky guy!
Thanks to a Giveaway on Reddit I won one of the most powerful lights in the Spider Farmer lineup, the SE5000, which is a pretty serious 480W LED light. It is about to arrive, so I would say that come Christmas you will be seeing me with a slightly more serious setup, at least 1 square meter!

The setup, recommended to me by a friend, is this one:
- Spider Farmer SE5000
- Homebox q120
- Cloudline T4
- Carbon filter

Tell me what you think about it.
Thanks to everyone as always, see y'all soon with lots of news!

The light is big enough for a 120x120 tent. We have the 4000 which is the same wattage (and a 120x120 tent).
You'll probably want to grow at least 4 plants, or else you would need a long veg time to really use the space (and light).

ComputerSaysNo said:

The light is big enough for a 120x120 tent. We have the 4000 which is the same wattage (and a 120x120 tent).
You'll probably want to grow at least 4 plants, or else you would need a long veg time to really use the space (and light).

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Definitely going for the long ass veg time and making this OG Kush a tree to behold!