12/12+CFL+HB's=perpetual?

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bigd921

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nothing much to update 2 of the clones look to be finished with there stretch and are starting to bud, should end up between 9-12 inches which would be perfect, that is with a 2 inch clone, that got 24 hour light for 7 days and then into flower

everything is looking healthy so far I am very excited, my 12/12 from seed girl is day 48 flowering today, more hairs changing more thrichs showing up and getting milky she never go to be in the good soil, wonder what would have become of her then, I wont reveg her tho very sativa dominant, and I not inpressed with her bud production
 

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hey bigd, i was wondering about a few things.

If i used a HPS for this method, would that make the plants stretch?

Or would they just stay small because the 12/12 lighting cycle?



Also, i was wondering which worked better for you in this scenerio, soil or hepy buckets?

one more question...what is the biggest yield youve had from a single one of these plants?
 
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bigd921 said:
tried adding a fan to the inside of the box for added circulation but it made my temps shoot up to over 100 took the fan out ant the temp dropped 15 degrees needless to say i wont do that again....
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hey i know that was from awhile ago but i was wondering how thats possible????


im plannign on building a growbox but my design involves having two fans with carbon scrubbers on them in the growbox for odor control and ventilation.....


is this a bad idea?? if its going to make temps shoot up i dont want to do it but i cant understand how it would make temps go up
 
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bigd921

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jchesmore722 said:
hey i know that was from awhile ago but i was wondering how thats possible????


im plannign on building a growbox but my design involves having two fans with carbon scrubbers on them in the growbox for odor control and ventilation.....


is this a bad idea?? if its going to make temps shoot up i dont want to do it but i cant understand how it would make temps go up
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honestly I am not sure why it happens, but I have read about it on the forums, I currently use 3 pc fans in the box 1 for exhaust, one of my intakes is active with a fan, and I have a small pc fan for air circulation inside the box with 4 42w bulbs I peek at 77 degrees...........

plants are looking good some of the clones have started to bud so they are done with the stretch looks like for westside in my sog, the clones need 7-10 to root and then straight to 12/12 to finish at the height I want, now just have to wait and see what the harvest time will be and then I can really work out the logistics of the sog, I think it finishes pretty fast like 50-60 days, I am going to start the count from the day I see the first pistil, and then harvest one at day 50 one at day 55 and one at day 60 and maybe day 65 (depends on how much amber i see at 60) some of the ladies looked hungry so I mixed up some dynagrow bloom with a touch of epsom salt and they got a shot we will se how they react, some of the ladies got fed a diluted version of the dr bud mix using tap water (just trying to find what works best) I gal 1 tblspn of fish emulsions 1 dropperful of shultz 1/4 tspn epsom salt 2 drops superthrive,the ones that were fed this mix actually look a bit better too me but I will give it a week and then decide which to go with
 

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oh here are 3 clones they all showed there first pistils today so they should be about done with there stretch, thats what I have seen in this strain first 2 weeks in the box stretch then pistils and now just waiting for the bud fase, the one in the middle grew 2 side branches from the begining wasnt topped or anything its the only clone that I have taken so far that has done thisbongsmilie
 

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Sorry its been a while guys been busy building my new flowering box:hump:
its much wider than the one I was using (which is now home to moms and clones and new seeds), so at maxium capacity I can fit over 50 bottles in it:shock:......I doubt I will ever run that many but nice to know I can I obvioulsy added more lights I have 2 pc fans working the ehaust and one small actve intake and a larger passive intake, I built a larger dryer box/carbon filter, all diy nothing fancy but working perfect just some activated carbon a recycled coffe container some mesh cloth some duct tape and a pc fan and we have a great drying box and no odor in my grow area.............

ok some of the clones got hit hard with a deficiencey, have it narrowed down to either cal/mag or P, so I am off r/o and now using tap water with dynagrow bloom, plus superthrive and we are back on track, took a few pics then the batteries died will put up more when they cahrge if anyone is interested:joint:....outside of the deficiencey things are running really smooth:clap:
 

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hey bigd i finally figured out how to post pics! so go ck out my album i started. now all i gotta do is learn how to start a journal
 
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Whats up guys sorry for the lack of updates been busy with the holidays and work.... the sog is still going strong I have had a few problems but nothing I couldnt handle, I accidentally fed my mothers and clones the flowering mix and burned the crap out of them :wall:, ohter than that I am still not totally satisfied with what I feeding them (dyna gro bloom) even with switching to ph balanced tap water I still thing I have a cal/mag deficiencey that shows up at about 30 days of flower going to add 1/4 tsp of epsom salt to the mix and see if that helps, I am also going to run a few micro hempy buckets again and see if I can dial those in, I have harvested some clones (6)I am averaging about 4.5 grams dry per cut, I expect the next batch to be better since I have fed them a little better.....

Soe pics below of 2 of clones they are both at day 47 of flower I beleive,about90% milky thrichs a couple of amber and the rest still clear going to let them go til I see 0 clear, the shorter clone veged 7 days the taller one vegged 10, there are a few cab shots, and a harvest shot from one of the clones i harvested, got some new sees I have going supposedly some sort of ak47 cross, the smoke was damn good so we will see what the seeds bring enjoy the pics and sorry for the delay
 

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hey big d.

i have read your grow from beginning to start...

and for the amount of time, effort, and energy you have put into this micro setup.

you could have have harvested a pretty fat amount, and be on your way to a second harvest.

I feel the stretching is the result of lack light.

I am surprised that none of the "more experienced" growers haven't told you this...

If you are doing 12/12, investing even in a small HPS will make the WORLDS difference. You don't get sufficient UBA/UBV rays from CFLs.

Again, imo you could be doing better...but i guess you've "invested" 5 months...at least the clones you've been getting have been healthier.

Please look into additional supplemental lighting. a 70 watt HPS w/ ballast sucks up about 86 watts total. It's not very hot either. Would help a shitt load. and those 86 watts outperform 2 cfls ANYDAY.

150 watt hps would be better...but its all on you.

Also please please please...i don't know how many times you've burned you're plants due to nute burn...but its about time to learn from the past, and always undernute than to over.

I'm just giving you some constructive criticism that others haven't--but should?

I mean hell, in my grow i've been fucking up too. But it's my 1st and i'm trying to learn from my mistakes as well.

But seriously for the amount of effort you have put in, and the yield output...i am not convinced nor impressed.

Good luck to you...and i hope you take away some of these suggestions.

Kudos on expanding the grow space, and introducing soil.
 
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don't get me wrong...i'm not against cfls...i have a bud who swears and grows by it....but in your 5 months of perpetual grow---12/12 in little bottle containers...its not exactly working too well.

BUT.

i have also read

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=69713&page=1&pp=15

now that guy knows how to do a microgrow.

don't get me wrong...you just need to re-evaluate where you are messing up.
 
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bigd921

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Multan said:
hey big d.

i have read your grow from beginning to start...

and for the amount of time, effort, and energy you have put into this micro setup.

you could have have harvested a pretty fat amount, and be on your way to a second harvest.

I feel the stretching is the result of lack light.

I am surprised that none of the "more experienced" growers haven't told you this...

If you are doing 12/12, investing even in a small HPS will make the WORLDS difference. You don't get sufficient UBA/UBV rays from CFLs.

Again, imo you could be doing better...but i guess you've "invested" 5 months...at least the clones you've been getting have been healthier.

Please look into additional supplemental lighting. a 70 watt HPS w/ ballast sucks up about 86 watts total. It's not very hot either. Would help a shitt load. and those 86 watts outperform 2 cfls ANYDAY.

150 watt hps would be better...but its all on you.

Also please please please...i don't know how many times you've burned you're plants due to nute burn...but its about time to learn from the past, and always undernute than to over.

I'm just giving you some constructive criticism that others haven't--but should?

I mean hell, in my grow i've been fucking up too. But it's my 1st and i'm trying to learn from my mistakes as well.

But seriously for the amount of effort you have put in, and the yield output...i am not convinced nor impressed.

Good luck to you...and i hope you take away some of these suggestions.

Kudos on expanding the grow space, and introducing soil.
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Fortunatley it was not my intent to impress or convince you, the stretch is by design and had you actually read the grow on ic mag or mine you would know that, and hps woud in no way benefit me, I get an average of 4.5grams per cut I harvet 6 cuts every 10 days (do the math noob) 6X4.5=26.0 grams a week, about an OZ a week a Qp per month MORE than enough for my personal consumption....now away with you noob
 
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Multan

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new strain maybe? you're fucking up somewhere.

and if a "newb" is telling you that.

its pretty sad. but whatever i really don't care.

carry on, won't post any more here.

peace.

ps. your math is way off. 10 days is 10 days, not a week. 6x4.5 = 27 x 3 = 81 grams = 2.89 OZ per mo = .18 of a pound.
 
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bigd921

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Multan said:
new strain maybe? you're fucking up somewhere.

and if a "newb" is telling you that.

its pretty sad. but whatever i really don't care.

carry on, won't post any more here.

peace.

ps. your math is way off. 10 days is 10 days, not a week. 6x4.5 = 27 x 3 = 81 grams = 2.89 OZ per mo = .18 of a pound.
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ok get back to your little led project, you have nothing to offer:hump:, you are right if I stick with a 10 day veg it will be about 3 zips a month if I do a 7 day and throw an extra clone in its 4 zips a month, I smoke about a half per week either way I am self sufficient plus some, and thats all I am here for you dont know enough to tell me anything, sorry kid, if you had some nute suggestions then maybe.....

Well I just looked thru your grow lol and YOU NEED TO READ ALL YOU CAN, you are managing 3 fucking plants and have nute burn, ph problems, gnats, possible mildew, (although I think you may have spider mites) get the fuck out of her guy lol I thought maybe you were actually doing something and I should hold my tounge LOL , I will harvest more this month than your grow cold ever hope to produce lol, I really do wish someone that knew something could help me out with this damn deficeincey, but you need to focus on YOUR grow you have alot of work to do noob..........
 
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hehe now now guys dont fight
Bigd im sure he ment nothing against you, hes just throwing in his 2cents yah meen?

But dude T5s are the shit, after useing CFLs i think they produce to much heat for the amount of light, T5s are real cool and so far are makein my ladys BURST with purely blue light lol,I think itle be even better once i get my red bulbs, i gota post pics so you can see, there perfect for cabs.
 
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chicagokushman23

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how are da babies doin bro. i pretty much feed my babies water durin veggin ya know. wanna hit um lite then medium wit nutes durin flowerin, dats jus wut im on. good luck tho bro. im tuned in wit ur grow
 
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bigd921

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oden230 said:
hehe now now guys dont fight
Bigd im sure he ment nothing against you, hes just throwing in his 2cents yah meen?

But dude T5s are the shit, after useing CFLs i think they produce to much heat for the amount of light, T5s are real cool and so far are makein my ladys BURST with purely blue light lol,I think itle be even better once i get my red bulbs, i gota post pics so you can see, there perfect for cabs.
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I have a t5 set up but its a 4 foot 8 bulb, obviously too big for a micro grow, I have never used it I bough it when i was using my entire closet to grow, If I could find the right 2ft setup i would consider trying them I have always wanted to try tubes, and I keep seeing great grows with t5's.......
 
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cronusoner

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hey bigd what kind of nute problems r u having? is it an over dose or under dose? you might wanna try magical by technaflora in low doses(not what da bottle says! i use it every once in a while when eva i see any type of deficiencies) if your having a problem with calcium, magnesium, or iron this will sure give u a fix!
 
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