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Shrubs First

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Whitefiya! Cant wait to see what you yield off these ladies bro, should be real solid. If you still want that extra 600 its yours. Lemme know, I will stay tuned
I probably should have done the extra 600 for this round, but they look pretty perfect situated how they are.

Great to see you back on the homefront as well...you logging some impressive percentages at full spectrum my lil bro :clap: Be careful with the "FED" crackdown my friend

Namaste'

Yea man, happy to say I'm out of the dispensary so I'm not too worried about it anymore being that this
as big as it gets for me right now. And thank you, I'm happy to be able to see two strains I grew up on the
top 3 highest strains in the CO. Seeing how Full Spectrum won't be testing for awhile I should be at #1 all-time
for quite some time. Until the state mandates some ability of the dispensary to get their herb the laboratory.
There is no legal way (besides selling it to them) to get them the herb.


Sweet to see your back. Wish I had some fire genetics like that to work with, gettin a little sick of beans. Nothing like the reliability of a sick clone. I'll be tuned for another awesome show.
Nice to see some familiars. I'll be around.


Pics of the potting and first fertilizing.



 

Shrubs First

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The plants took the transplant very well, although I had little bit of fertilizer burn after that first feeding.

EC was 1.15 pH 6.0 Temp 66.5F

I will lower the EC to around .7 next feeding.





 

Someguy15

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They look healthy, just a hint of tip burn. I found hand watering difficult to control EC, but I was using hydroton & rockwool combo which seems to dry very quickly. Is coco a little better at retaining moisture or do u have to be on top of watering cycles to combat that problem?

Just got a new thread up myself. Take a gander if you got a few mins my man. SG15's 2kw Flood & Drain Perpetual - PE, NLxS, Sour Kush, PPP
 

Snafu1236

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Looking good man. Happy to see youre back. I just started a second thread, a fully organic DJ Short Blueberry run.Bout to hit it in my sig, hit me up I would be delighted if you kept a gander on it.
 

Shrubs First

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They look healthy, just a hint of tip burn. I found hand watering difficult to control EC, but I was using hydroton & rockwool combo which seems to dry very quickly. Is coco a little better at retaining moisture or do u have to be on top of watering cycles to combat that problem?

Just got a new thread up myself. Take a gander if you got a few mins my man. SG15's 2kw Flood & Drain Perpetual - PE, NLxS, Sour Kush, PPP
It's pretty slight, so I'm not too worried. I did the fertilizing on Wednesday evening and those pics are from yesterday.
As of today the burn hasn't progressed and growth looks pretty good.

As far as difficulty controlling EC in coco it is very easy. CANNA coco retains water as if it were soil, I do not water these
but every 3-4 days right now. Until the roots and plants are bumping, then it goes to about every other, once it's consistently
every other I will transplant. If I feel the plants are having a bit of a build up in the coco I can just drop the EC to .1-.5 and
dilute the medium.

I'll be over to check the thread shortly.

Looking good man. Happy to see youre back. I just started a second thread, a fully organic DJ Short Blueberry run.Bout to hit it in my sig, hit me up I would be delighted if you kept a gander on it.
Thank you, I'll see what's up.
 

Shrubs First

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My lights haven't been the most convenient things to raise and lower since I built
this configuration. You can see they are individually hung by chain links. I fixed that
problem by buying a 1/2" x 72" galvanized steel rod.



Now that my plants are acclimated to these 600 watt lights I can begin lowering them,
2 feet today, and another 2 feet tomorrow.

 

Someguy15

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Might as well have them all on one set of grips. Gotta love those pro-grips I think I have like 10 pairs of them lol What's your target height above the plants? 3' or so?
 

Shrubs First

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Might as well have them all on one set of grips. Gotta love those pro-grips I think I have like 10 pairs of them lol What's your target height above the plants? 3' or so?
yep, once they're all acclimated and asking for it, I'll have the light around the 2.5'-3' mark.
 

Shrubs First

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Lowered the lights another 14", things look good from my end.







Fertilized last night. .7 EC, 6.0 pH

The spots on that leaf look like thrip markings. I have been scouring the place and have seen random
spots on other leaves as well. Yet to see an actual pest. Tomorrow I will foliar once again with Organocide.
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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Awww man. i fuckin hope you don't have thrips. But everything looks good otherwise. What are you using as a substrate. If its in the thread just point me there. and also towards what you are feeding too.
 

Someguy15

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Awww man. i fuckin hope you don't have thrips. But everything looks good otherwise. What are you using as a substrate. If its in the thread just point me there. and also towards what you are feeding too.
Canna Coco, but I'm not sure what he's feeding with. I got a ? for ya too shrubs, is the canna coco ready to use out of the bag or does it require a soak or rinse?
 

Shrubs First

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Awww man. i fuckin hope you don't have thrips. But everything looks good otherwise. What are you using as a substrate. If its in the thread just point me there. and also towards what you are feeding too.
Yea it would be unfortunate. But I'm confident I will take care of them. I've had them in the past and
they haven't been too bad of a problem. I'm growing in Canna coco. Running CANNA nutes, Coco A+B
Rhizotonic, Hygrozyme, Cannazyme, Mayan Microzyme, PK 13/14 for flowering. I also randomly add some
Aqua Flores 0-4-4 during flowering when I'm not running PK 13/14 to not lock out the K and Ca from
each other. The Flores also gives a bit of Molybdenum boost.

Canna Coco, but I'm not sure what he's feeding with. I got a ? for ya too shrubs, is the canna coco ready to use out of the bag or does it require a soak or rinse?
Canna coco is ready out of the bag it's the Canna CoGr you have to prepare.
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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I'm assuming you've grown with other nutes before canna. i've heard only great things of canna and their products. Do you see any noticeable difference in the products?
 

Shrubs First

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I'm assuming you've grown with other nutes before canna. i've heard only great things of canna and their products. Do you see any noticeable difference in the products?
I started using Botanicare Pure Blend Pro lineup in 2008 while growing in soil.

From there I moved away from soil and began growin in soil-less mixes, with
those I used Humboldt Master A+B lineup and really liked that. As i began working
with pure coco medium, I continued using Humboldt with good results but noticed
some interesting and consistent deficiencies. I decided to try running Canna nutes
through their media and have had the best results every time I use em. Love the flavor
and the cannabinoid content.
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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I started using Botanicare Pure Blend Pro lineup in 2008 while growing in soil.

From there I moved away from soil and began growin in soil-less mixes, with
those I used Humboldt Master A+B lineup and really liked that. As i began working
with pure coco medium, I continued using Humboldt with good results but noticed
some interesting and consistent deficiencies. I decided to try running Canna nutes
through their media and have had the best results every time I use em. Love the flavor
and the cannabinoid content.
i Have switched over to soil-less mixes now recently and was guided towards botanicare. so i picked up a few products tho i'm really liking hydroplex. i know alot of people dont try foxfarm because its cliche' or seems like a con for beginners but im still screwed on them until i find a simpler line up without 200 different products to mix n match. which is my problem matchin em up.
 

Someguy15

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I started using Botanicare Pure Blend Pro lineup in 2008 while growing in soil.

From there I moved away from soil and began growin in soil-less mixes, with
those I used Humboldt Master A+B lineup and really liked that. As i began working
with pure coco medium, I continued using Humboldt with good results but noticed
some interesting and consistent deficiencies. I decided to try running Canna nutes
through their media and have had the best results every time I use em. Love the flavor
and the cannabinoid content.
Canna has an attractive product line but I was very off put when I calculate my cost per grow for the boost based on their nutrient calculator. It makes the canna line significantly more expensive than the schedule for H&G which made me lean towards that. So my ? is, are u using the boost, or did u decide it wasn't worth the dough?
 

lostNug

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Lookin good man.

Get monterey garden spray (spinosad). I had thrips and it got rid of em in a few days. Its a organic bacteria that's harmless to humans and destroys bugs. Got rid of my spider mites also. You can use it even into late flower but I wouldn't recommend it since it could effect taste and smell.

Dilute 2.5ml per gallon of ph water, add lil non scented dishwash soap to help dissolve better. Spray every 3 days and in between those days spray with plain water. Make sure to keep ur humidity in check when foliar spraying to prevent mold. You can also use this stuff to soil drench
 

Shrubs First

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Canna has an attractive product line but I was very off put when I calculate my cost per grow for the boost based on their nutrient calculator. It makes the canna line significantly more expensive than the schedule for H&G which made me lean towards that. So my ? is, are u using the boost, or did u decide it wasn't worth the dough?
I like to use Boost at 10mL/gallon between weeks 3 and weeks 7 (4 weeks total). That usually takes a liter of Boost ($100) if I have any left over I will continue using it but that's my budget for the Boost. It's worth it though. If I was ballin' I would use it week 1 through week 9. It contains a ton of Fulvic acid. The permeation of the casparian strip through the use of Fulvic acid is key in the transport of not only the carbs in the Boost but also the nutrients in the rest of the mix.

Lookin good man.

Get monterey garden spray (spinosad). I had thrips and it got rid of em in a few days. Its a organic bacteria that's harmless to humans and destroys bugs. Got rid of my spider mites also. You can use it even into late flower but I wouldn't recommend it since it could effect taste and smell.

Dilute 2.5ml per gallon of ph water, add lil non scented dishwash soap to help dissolve better. Spray every 3 days and in between those days spray with plain water. Make sure to keep ur humidity in check when foliar spraying to prevent mold. You can also use this stuff to soil drench
We learned about Spinosad in class. A chemist claims to have discovered it while on vacation in the carribean
or some crazy story. It's bomb though. Don't want to use it more than once per month because of how effective it
is however because if a bug builds a tolerance you have some problems. But it does claim to have a 100%
mortality rate as long as the bug ingests it. Good tips though.
 
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