1st Grow - Hubbabubbasmelloscope in DWC & Water Farm

Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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Homie Da Clown said:
I would never judge someones science experiments in a neg way..
I used to try all kinds of diff things, not to mention, that I have grown in just about every type of system.
I was told that dtw was what I should do, but that is boring lol...
But after you get over the initial shock that you can grow hydroponically and all that legend in your own mind shit,
then it comes down to ease of use, and hands down, dtw is the best....
cheapest, easy and very dialed in....
use that money on cobs...

Well they all got the same thing now, so we see how these systems perform against each other..
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I agree man ive come full circle with hydro
Starting with coco for a few years dtw.
Then dwc, lowpressure aero/nft, areo dwc hybrid,
Now rdwc

And besides feeling like a mad scientist
Im working on a new system that isnt so power hungry with air pumps and circ pumps.

It will be basically a giant nft table where the roots mainley grow in air (no air pump)
And i will be able to control the humidity in the root zone (hopefully) so i can simulate dry cycles
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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Cold$moke said:
I agree man ive come full circle with hydro
Starting with coco for a few years dtw.
Then dwc, lowpressure aero/nft, areo dwc hybrid,
Now rdwc

And besides feeling like a mad scientist
Im working on a new system that isnt so power hungry with air pumps and circ pumps.

It will be basically a giant nft table where the roots mainley grow in air (no air pump)
And i will be able to control the humidity in the root zone (hopefully) so i can simulate dry cycles
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Fog Ponics?
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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Not really but i thought about incorporating one but then thats just over complicating things for coolness sake ;)

Im going with a hybrid meniscus membrane nft set up
Basically a big dark chamber with a thin nutrients film roots grow mostly in air with the bottom layer of roots staying " wet"

Plus a few extra tweaks by me
My hopes are to get close to the same growth rates as rdwc (if possible) with less nutes
And less power consumption . Plus being able to give it dry cycles for experiments

It will be a selectable set up where you can recirculate or dtw no chillers

After this run im pulling the setup on the right out for the new one.
And if it comes within close of the rdwc then im probablygoing to yank it out as well :)
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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Cold$moke said:
Not really but i thought about incorporating one but then thats just over complicating things for coolness sake ;)

Im going with a hybrid meniscus membrane nft set up
Basically a big dark chamber with a thin nutrients film roots grow mostly in air with the bottom layer of roots staying " wet"

Plus a few extra tweaks by me
My hopes are to get close to the same growth rates as rdwc (if possible) with less nutes
And less power consumption . Plus being able to give it dry cycles for experiments

It will be a selectable set up where you can recirculate or dtw no chillers

After this run im pulling the setup on the right out for the new one.
And if it comes within close of the rdwc then im probablygoing to yank it out as well :)
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Sounds interesting!
My plan is to see if I can compete with my ebb and flow, compared to either of the rdwc...
Cause If I can, Im gonna sell both the rdwc systems, and just increase the buckets in the ebb and flow...
The master controller will handle up to 48 buckets.. 12 buckets for $100 and I already got 14..
Then I take that money and put it in to QUALITY led lights....
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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Wisher2 said:
hahahhaah
and now you know why I always preached it to you
it is out of the way and pretty much self sustainable......
so easy once dialed....you have to actually remind yourself to check on the plants/make sure the res is good etc....from time to time of course
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Lol you sure did! Lmao... Several times!
Ya but setting up that dtw with 20+ plants requires a little more design and thought, and with the right size reservoir its almost hands free...
Im hoping this ebb and flow kicks ass! I got it on 6 - 15 min floods a day right now. Same with the waterfarms.. 6- 5 min dtr...

How is this for numbers???
YESTERDAY
UC ..280/67*/5.9
E+F ..380/57*/6.1
WF ..360/68*/5.7

TODAY
UC ..280/67*/5.9
E+F ..390/60*/6.6 RESET TO 400/60*/5.8
WF ..370/68*/6.0

So you see the UC is feeding just perfect..
The E+F is a little high...
And the waterfarm is a little high...
I re ph'ed the E+F back down to 5.8
We will recheck tomm...
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Mohican said:
You know it!

Just be carefull. The resin floats everywhere and coats every surface with a sticky residue :eyesmoke:
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Lol - I will bear that in mind; though it may be a few grows before I accumulate enough sugar leaves to make any! :lol: Luckily, I have a HUGE dining room table that has a custom glass top over it.
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Damn that was fast!

Questions (me being a newb and all) ... Does the UC system require all 4 buckets to run? Does the UC system regulate temperature? Are you ising the UC nutes or the CNS and +life with it?
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As for temp i have a 250 watt heater and a 1/4 hp chiller.. How ever the chiller uasnt been turned on yet as my temps have been fine..
I use cns17 and +life in everything...

What do you mean all 4 buckets?
I got 6 grow buckets and the 7th bucket is the epicenter...
And i have air difussors in every bucket in the UC.... RUN 24/7...
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Homie Da Clown said:
As for temp i have a 250 watt heater and a 1/4 hp chiller.. How ever the chiller uasnt been turned on yet as my temps have been fine..
I use cns17 and +life in everything...

What do you mean all 4 buckets?
I got 6 grow buckets and the 7th bucket is the epicenter...
And i have air difussors in every bucket in the UC.... RUN 24/7...
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The pics I saw on their website show minimum of 4 ... just trying to learn :-)

I figured you were using the cns and life - but saw that THEIR nutes were “specially formulated for THEIR system” (figured that was a crock o’shite!)
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
The pics I saw on their website show minimum of 4 ... just trying to learn :-)

I figured you were using the cns and life - but saw that THEIR nutes were “specially formulated for THEIR system” (figured that was a crock o’shite!)
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Oh I understand I think.. Ya there smallest system is 4 buckets which run constantly.... Like $1000.....
Well there nutes are good but they are by far not needed... cns17 is much cheaper and just as good.. Cns17 ripe is like the perfect choice to bring on great maturation...And its clear after stirred in...
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
The pics I saw on their website show minimum of 4 ... just trying to learn :-)

I figured you were using the cns and life - but saw that THEIR nutes were “specially formulated for THEIR system” (figured that was a crock o’shite!)
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all these specialty niche company's always try to push their stuff....as proprietary and specific to their system
all of them start as minerals and pretty much most formulas are the same
there are different methods of keeping certain things together in suspension...for instance CNS keeps all elements together by holding them in a sugar suspension....which keeps the Ca from reacting with other elements

but all these companys can be made at your home
with a scale, a couple of buckets, some Di water you can make all these different nutrient bases for less than pennies

that is why Homie and I use the simplist of nutrients
 
Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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Wisher2 said:
all these specialty niche company's always try to push their stuff....as proprietary and specific to their system
all of them start as minerals and pretty much most formulas are the same
there are different methods of keeping certain things together in suspension...for instance CNS keeps all elements together by holding them in a sugar suspension....which keeps the Ca from reacting with other elements

but all these companys can be made at your home
with a scale, a couple of buckets, some Di water you can make all these different nutrient bases for less than pennies

that is why Homie and I use the simplist of nutrients
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Exactly... No need to complicate things no more than they are...
 
cjsbabygirl313

cjsbabygirl313

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Here’s today’s update ... girls are doing well and momma is happy!

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#1 does have some orange spotting, but its minimal, and finally she’s feeding! Her ppms went down a bit since yesterday but the water level is the same as is the ph; she stands at 4.5” tall now.

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I’m assuming #2 is eating because while her ppms went *up* slightly, her water level is down, her ph is the same also; she’s growing by leaps and bounds and is 7.5” tall and she’s growing over into her sister’s space! Hubby told his friend if he finds us dead its because Audrey 2 here climbed out of her bucket and throttled us in our sleep *lol*

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Homie Da Clown

Homie Da Clown

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cjsbabygirl313 said:
Here’s today’s update ... girls are doing well and momma is happy!

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#1 does have some orange spotting, but its minimal, and finally she’s feeding! Her ppms went down a bit since yesterday but the water level is the same as is the ph; she stands at 4.5” tall now.

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I’m assuming #2 is eating because while her ppms went *up* slightly, her water level is down, her ph is the same also; she’s growing by leaps and bounds and is 7.5” tall and she’s growing over into her sister’s space! Hubby told his friend if he finds us dead its because Audrey 2 here climbed out of her bucket and throttled us in our sleep *lol*

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Awesome,,, even tho im still concerned about number 1..
Anyway, let them go to tomm and retest..
It sounds like you may have got the ph settled..
I think the hydroton was still a little dusty and that caused you a bad start..
After this run, you just rinse them in warm water,
and reuse...
I promise you next run you will have a lot better start with both,
and less problems.. It only gets easier after the first run..
 
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