superstoner1
Well-Known Member
you are talking apples and oranges. you dont still NEED a ballast it is a built in part of led lights.
Interesting theory...but you cannot replace a driver/ballast with an apple or an orange...apples and oranges
seems like an expensive switch over from hps to led just not to use ballast ?
were there any other reasons ?
much of the LED advertising still is very much exaggerated which is a shame, i have seen some nice LED grows here and on other forums, they still seem limited to smaller plants and sog type grows though
which panels will you buy ? so many options available and none of them cheap different grow forums seem to push different panels SG602 blackstar MAG 357 were popular a few months back
again not that many growers seem to have made the switch over because of cost i guess
i think personally i will have a go of induction lights before LED's although leds are still interesting, i just do not think they are really a match for hps yet especially when growing larger plants
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but more messy if you drop them.Apple are easier to juggle than oranges
My widow was over 5 feet tall, in a 3 gallon bag, with the bottom cut out and placed in a 5 gallon bucket.... the main cola was as long as my forearm, and as big around as a pop can.
LED's can grow large plants. Good day, sir!
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It probably could if I let them get that big, You could easily do 4'x8' with two of the panels I have and grow some big ass plants. Using 878W...
what is the difference in price for those LED panels vs a 600W/1000W ? is there still great value in it.From another point of view, it all comes down, to controlled environment efficiency.... Energy vs matter ..... For a certain amount of energy (power x time ) provided (spent ),a certain quantity (mass ) is harvested.... So ... Mass per (power x time ) ... ------------------------------------------------------------ gr / k W h......... When I was growing with HPS (greenPower 400 Watt ) my average yield was 250 gr . The average amount of energy spent (0.4 x ( 18x7x4 +12x7x10 ) ) was 535 kWh (a bit more...).. So that is an efficiency of 250 gr / 535 kWh = 0,46 gr / kWh ....... ...Up til now (3rd week of "flowering ) and starting from 24/0 cycle =>20/4=>18/6=>13/11 => 12.45/11.15' =>and so on ...I've spend approx 60 kWh.....!!!!!And that includes 9 x120 mm 12v fans & TD silent 160 extractor fan (with gradually increasing leds from approx 48 Watt to 190 Watts ( two unknown wild landstrains ) .... Even if I'll get 80 gr final yield ...... Even if I 'll spend double this amount up till harvest.... Still it's going to be 0.66 gr / kWh....... ----------------Way ,more efficient.......--------...efficient.....-------------Energy turned into matter....... ....Anyway...Check Astir thread..... Take a peek..... 132 Watts - 2x White Russians-9th week -(for sure couple more to go....)
... Brother there, assumes that he's way over 140 grs ,already.. Dunno....Can't tell...He's awful photographer....(And my tele-photo-weighing abilities ,are not so good,either..) But...For sure his grow is way more efficient than any Hid grow..... And those are the old led panels.... Now there's a new gen ...... Comin' from far away.... (.....Even further ,than you might think from...)![]()
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