2020 MASSACHUSETTS outdoor grow Thread!

stealthfader508

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Stealthy MOB= Mother of Blueberry ?
Sco! ... what's up brother? ... yea Mother of Berries... I flowered the mother inside and just jarred it up yesterday.... it's very, very close to what I remember it should from years ago ... I have one of her clones going in the greenhouse this season ... you got anything going outside this year? curious how gromers stuff does outside
 

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dunphy

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Gentlemencorpse

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Nice bro. Are you in Mass? Did they end up flowering when you put them out or are you doing light dep or something? Nice job, look forward to seeing it.. Always wanted to try the milkcrate containers.
I am in MA. The flowering one is a Mephisto autoflower (Forum Stomper x Forgotten Cookies).

And ya, I've seen a few really dope milk crate grows and had everything I needed on hand so figured I'd give it a shot. That's an auto too, but I just put it out last week.
 

eak52190

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Hi all,
Since the 2018 season I’ve set out to breed a strain adapted to the New England climate (botrytis resistant, cold resistant, early finish-mid September, etc.) while preserving quality. After heavy research throughout the fall I found a strain to include in my existing breeding program, Serious 6 by Serious Seeds that was bred “to create an early finishing Sativa type of plant which is very mound-resistant and will finish outdoors in the humid and cold Dutch climate at the end of September”.

In January, I grew 22 reg seeds selected the best male for pollen and the best female to study traits/rate quality. In May, after about 4 months in Veg I moved the female outside with my other strains. After a month in the ground LOOK AT THIS MOTHER FUCKER IT STARTED FLOWERING!!!

So this is not an auto as it has been vegging for 4 months, it isn’t light deprivation as it’s in a bed with 5 other strains and they aren’t flowering, it could be stress from transplant/weather but I would expect the same in at least one-off my 11 other plants. it’s definitely the phenotype.

At this rate it should finished by mid August early September. My question for you guys is this something you want or is this too early? For me it’s a bit early as the plant isn’t that big yet. It still has time to go but I would rather it veg at least until July 4th to grow out a bit. What do you think?
 

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Yesyes3000

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freebies from Canuk Seeds from msnl I believe was the pack... They were my back ups to my backups of my backups... Bought 4 packs from 4 banks and 3 didn't make it. I can check but I think these WW were the freebies.. They could've been extras floating around the seed collection from last year but almost positive they were a freebie pack of 5 from this years canuk/msnl order...

To be honest.. Im extremely disappointed in canuk seeds / MSNL and TSB/true north seed bank this year.... All terrible wastes of money, even these ones that germ'd from the order I don't like... But its better than nothing and I didnt want to run any clones for vigor reasons...
would NOT recommend canuk seeds / marijuana-seeds.nl(I've had 3 total orders from them... First was good I forget the breeder and strain I grabbed it was a few years ago, I can find out if needed. 2nd order was decent as far as ordering shipping, concealment, and the genetics were hit or miss... About 2/3 of my order was on point, but the last pack and the freebies were all trash. But I gave them another chance, I like trying out seed banks for the outdoors because I just look at them as extras the indoors the main show usually..Although I love growing outdoors, reminds me of being a stupid teen running around planting hundreds of trees each year all over the place. :) ... but anyways, The 3rd order from them was this year and was just a shitshow... ) also would NOT recommend true north seed bank. I wish I could recommend some good ones, but I don't usually trust them to be consistent.. You almost have to go into it expecting trash so your not counting on them, and you don't get disappointed.. Only pleasantly surprised which is fine by me. For my indoor runs I usually stick to passing around some known quality genetics with local people in SE mass that I've known through separate local growing groups and friends I burn with/grow with.
I’ve grown some white widow from canuk and it was horrible lol
 

stealthfader508

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Hi all,
Since the 2018 season I’ve set out to breed a strain adapted to the New England climate (botrytis resistant, cold resistant, early finish-mid September, etc.) while preserving quality. After heavy research throughout the fall I found a strain to include in my existing breeding program, Serious 6 by Serious Seeds that was bred “to create an early finishing Sativa type of plant which is very mound-resistant and will finish outdoors in the humid and cold Dutch climate at the end of September”.

In January, I grew 22 reg seeds selected the best male for pollen and the best female to study traits/rate quality. In May, after about 4 months in Veg I moved the female outside with my other strains. After a month in the ground LOOK AT THIS MOTHER FUCKER IT STARTED FLOWERING!!!

So this is not an auto as it has been vegging for 4 months, it isn’t light deprivation as it’s in a bed with 5 other strains and they aren’t flowering, it could be stress from transplant/weather but I would expect the same in at least one-off my 11 other plants. it’s definitely the phenotype.

At this rate it should finished by mid August early September. My question for you guys is this something you want or is this too early? For me it’s a bit early as the plant isn’t that big yet. It still has time to go but I would rather it veg at least until July 4th to grow out a bit. What do you think?
Nice Eak ... what light cycle did you have it on before moving it outside? I find this can be very common at our latitude, especially if the plants are getting any more than 15 hrs of light inside before moving them outside ... the shorter days outside can trigger flower, but most will reveg within a couple weeks ...I hear it all the time that plants will have an initial burst of growth for a couple weeks when they first move outside, but then slow to a crawl for a few weeks... I believe a lot of times that's the plant actually starting to stretch, but then going into a reveg period before taking off again...

... one way I try to beat that is to slowly reduce the light cycle until it's about the same amount of daylight that they'll get outside once moved out ... I'm also really interested in the "gas lantern technique" ... that's where you interrupt the dark cycle for an hour in the middle of the night, and it supposedly keeps the plants from initiating flower ...

... your breeding project is very interesting to me ... I recently started working on the same exact thing, to breed my own strains that grow really well outside in MA... I actually unloaded my entire seed stock to my friends so I'm not tempted to run them lol ... from now on I'll be focusing on growing out these seven strains only ... I'm hopeful by the beginning of next outdoor season I'll have all my own testers/keepers for the greenhouse

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dubekoms

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Nice Eak ... what light cycle did you have it on before moving it outside? I find this can be very common at our latitude, especially if the plants are getting any more than 15 hrs of light inside before moving them outside ... the shorter days outside can trigger flower, but most will reveg within a couple weeks ...I hear it all the time that plants will have an initial burst of growth for a couple weeks when they first move outside, but then slow to a crawl for a few weeks... I believe a lot of times that's the plant actually starting to stretch, but then going into a reveg period before taking off again...

... one way I try to beat that is to slowly reduce the light cycle until it's about the same amount of daylight that they'll get outside once moved out ... I'm also really interested in the "gas lantern technique" ... that's where you interrupt the dark cycle for an hour in the middle of the night, and it supposedly keeps the plants from initiating flower ...

... your breeding project is very interesting to me ... I recently started working on the same exact thing, to breed my own strains that grow really well outside in MA... I actually unloaded my entire seed stock to my friends so I'm not tempted to run them lol ... from now on I'll be focusing on growing out these seven strains only ... I'm hopeful by the beginning of next outdoor season I'll have all my own testers/keepers for the greenhouse

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I would love to see that erdpurt grown out, super old school indica. I have a feeling that lanky airy sativas would do well here especially if they are in a greenhouse in the fall.
 

stealthfader508

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I would love to see that erdpurt grown out, super old school indica. I have a feeling that lanky airy sativas would do well here especially if they are in a greenhouse in the fall.
hey dubs ... yea I'm looking forward to the Erdpurt... it does really well in harsh northern climates, flowers early, and has a lot of red/pink coloration ... I'm starting with the indica's (PCK and Erdpurt) ... I'll open pollinate each strain to itself to build a stockpile of each original indicas, and also create some F1's between the two indica's ... I also have a Bubba Hash going in the greenhouse this year, it's a fkn monster, I've never seen anything this vigorous this early in the season... I'll be definitely crossing into this plant with both the PCK and Erdpurt ... After the first run with Indica's I plan to start working the sativa's in the same way, and then eventually crossing the sativa's into the indica's .... check out this Bubba Hash though ... not bad for June 16th

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dubekoms

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hey dubs ... yea I'm looking forward to the Erdpurt... it does really well in harsh northern climates, flowers early, and has a lot of red/pink coloration ... I'm starting with the indica's (PCK and Erdpurt) ... I'll open pollinate each strain to itself to build a stockpile of each original indicas, and also create some F1's between the two indica's ... I also have a Bubba Hash going in the greenhouse this year, it's a fkn monster, I've never seen anything this vigorous this early in the season... I'll be definitely crossing into this plant with both the PCK and Erdpurt ... After the first run with Indica's I plan to start working the sativa's in the same way, and then eventually crossing the sativa's into the indica's .... check out this Bubba Hash though ... not bad for June 16th

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Not bad at all those are going to get huge, nice fat fan leaves on those as well. You should find some interesting plants when you mix the indica and sativa gen etics. I can't grow at my usual spot this year but everything worked out great and I got a few plants at my buddies farm. Honestly the new spot is way better, got them in big amended holes in a large field with unlimited sunshine. I'll have to take some pics when I get up there in a couple weeks.
 

Gentlemencorpse

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Hi all,
Since the 2018 season I’ve set out to breed a strain adapted to the New England climate (botrytis resistant, cold resistant, early finish-mid September, etc.) while preserving quality. After heavy research throughout the fall I found a strain to include in my existing breeding program, Serious 6 by Serious Seeds that was bred “to create an early finishing Sativa type of plant which is very mound-resistant and will finish outdoors in the humid and cold Dutch climate at the end of September”.

In January, I grew 22 reg seeds selected the best male for pollen and the best female to study traits/rate quality. In May, after about 4 months in Veg I moved the female outside with my other strains. After a month in the ground LOOK AT THIS MOTHER FUCKER IT STARTED FLOWERING!!!

So this is not an auto as it has been vegging for 4 months, it isn’t light deprivation as it’s in a bed with 5 other strains and they aren’t flowering, it could be stress from transplant/weather but I would expect the same in at least one-off my 11 other plants. it’s definitely the phenotype.

At this rate it should finished by mid August early September. My question for you guys is this something you want or is this too early? For me it’s a bit early as the plant isn’t that big yet. It still has time to go but I would rather it veg at least until July 4th to grow out a bit. What do you think?
Nice Eak ... what light cycle did you have it on before moving it outside? I find this can be very common at our latitude, especially if the plants are getting any more than 15 hrs of light inside before moving them outside ... the shorter days outside can trigger flower, but most will reveg within a couple weeks ...I hear it all the time that plants will have an initial burst of growth for a couple weeks when they first move outside, but then slow to a crawl for a few weeks... I believe a lot of times that's the plant actually starting to stretch, but then going into a reveg period before taking off again...

... one way I try to beat that is to slowly reduce the light cycle until it's about the same amount of daylight that they'll get outside once moved out ... I'm also really interested in the "gas lantern technique" ... that's where you interrupt the dark cycle for an hour in the middle of the night, and it supposedly keeps the plants from initiating flower ...

... your breeding project is very interesting to me ... I recently started working on the same exact thing, to breed my own strains that grow really well outside in MA... I actually unloaded my entire seed stock to my friends so I'm not tempted to run them lol ... from now on I'll be focusing on growing out these seven strains only ... I'm hopeful by the beginning of next outdoor season I'll have all my own testers/keepers for the greenhouse

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I like where your heads are at ... if you need someone to test your crosses next season I know a guy ... :bigjoint:
 

eak52190

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Nice Eak ... what light cycle did you have it on before moving it outside? I find this can be very common at our latitude, especially if the plants are getting any more than 15 hrs of light inside before moving them outside ... the shorter days outside can trigger flower, but most will reveg within a couple weeks ...I hear it all the time that plants will have an initial burst of growth for a couple weeks when they first move outside, but then slow to a crawl for a few weeks... I believe a lot of times that's the plant actually starting to stretch, but then going into a reveg period before taking off again...

... one way I try to beat that is to slowly reduce the light cycle until it's about the same amount of daylight that they'll get outside once moved out ... I'm also really interested in the "gas lantern technique" ... that's where you interrupt the dark cycle for an hour in the middle of the night, and it supposedly keeps the plants from initiating flower ...

... your breeding project is very interesting to me ... I recently started working on the same exact thing, to breed my own strains that grow really well outside in MA... I actually unloaded my entire seed stock to my friends so I'm not tempted to run them lol ... from now on I'll be focusing on growing out these seven strains only ... I'm hopeful by the beginning of next outdoor season I'll have all my own testers/keepers for the greenhouse

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I had it on 16 hrs before moving it out. I hope it is just the light cycle as I’m looking for a much bigger plant than I have now. I’d be better off with two successions of autos than a June flowering photo.

Nice! I’ve never grown Ace seeds myself but I like how you’re going with a lot of strains closely tied to land races, the genetics will be much stronger and stable. I’m still in the trial phase but I’m a few years we should trade seeds and try to get one hell of a NE acclimated strain.
 

dsmer

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Is it me, or are there a ton of red squirrels this year? I’ve never seen them on my property until this year. Is it eating the plants? The ones in my yard haven’t gone near my plants.
i have a ton of grey squirrels and chipmunks this year but I’ve never seen a red one here. I don’t think there touching the plants but I’m worried about them digging holes
 

dubekoms

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i have a ton of grey squirrels and chipmunks this year but I’ve never seen a red one here. I don’t think there touching the plants but I’m worried about them digging holes
I've heard they don't like strong smells. You could throw some moth balls around the plant or soak a rag in peppermint oil and see if that works.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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i have a ton of grey squirrels and chipmunks this year but I’ve never seen a red one here. I don’t think there touching the plants but I’m worried about them digging holes
Yeah, we always have a ton of chipmunks here. We have a huge Maple our back that usually has gray squirrels in it but it looks like the red squirrels took the tree over this year.
 
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