21 days from seed how do they look???

frmrboi

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No its not coco. its Pete moss with worm casting tobacco sheep shit and i think that's is ill put photos of my soil mix tomorrow.
without limestone that'll be to acidic and you'll get nutrient lockout. Get some real potting soil and add a lot of perlite.
 

Cannabisworks

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No its not coco. its Pete moss with worm casting tobacco sheep shit and i think that's is ill put photos of my soil mix tomorrow.

tobacco???whats that about,.
ok i was sorta thinking peat also. peat is real acidic for a medium, to acidic for what we want your other amendments help some but im not thinking its enough to bring it up enough. the foods arent made to run in that low of mediums nor do the plants like that to much acidic mediums. if i can remember right i believe peat...depending on where from is abround 4 pH. and we want in mid to hi 6. just slight acidic. and any manures need to be compsoted or they are also to hot for the plant
 

Cannabisworks

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yu culd do his lime to it but you may want to watch it all the way through also to make sure it wont creep away again.
 

mikerob

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So now that everyone is done argueing am i least close to heading in th right direction??? I have tones more lights i pulled a few cause my plants were acting funny but i get floros free so as long as i can keep heat down i can put a whole lot more if my lighting is not sufficient. as far as humidity i can pull one of the fans out and add a boil of steaming water once or twice a day!
 

Cannabisworks

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weird ive never heard of using tobacco ever for an amendment. tobacco causes a disease tot hem so it makes absolutly no sence to me
if you have the bag still or name brand post it or look for the ph on the bag if its there. if this was store mix then the manure would most likley be composted then. but not all premixes are made for our needs. if you dont get a good base to the grow all the fancier lighting or other dosent help it
 

mikerob

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So when you say add lime are you talking about the fruit or a rock or what? where would i aquire lime at
 

mikerob

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What if i just water the hell out of the plants then just leave them for a week to do there own thing will it help... i mean they mad it this far and if i Mel translating them they will eventualy die...
 

Cannabisworks

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garden lime. dolomatic limstone
is what is used for some ph buffering in mediums. each item in a mix has its own ph to it. after all the items are mixed together this mix isnt always in the right ph range for our type of plant. so they can use lime to adjust the final ph of the mix. and makes sure it stays there with abuse of foods and watering. over time it wears off. but most have enough in them to run a grow without ever needing more. but that is for using the correct types soil for what we do. this is also the missconception to alot on the web that we dont need tp ph. they see it says ph buffered but they dont understand what buffered means. it doe not mean there is no need to ph food or water to grow in it. it means that the limes in it will slkow..or buffer the shifts the m,edium may want to do. therer is alot going on in the medium that makes ph shift by the hour in there.
you could take a fistfull of the soil. put in a cup and have holes in the bottom to strain it. run corectly ph1d water through and see what the run off shows for a ph and this will also give a close guestmate to what the ph of the medium is
 

lowrider2000

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what about home depot? Is it a powder or liquid or what just so i know what I'm looking for tomorrow when i go!
i think it comes in both formes...............add the powder to the soil i would wait to do that when you transplant them for flower....for now your good .......it look like you just put a little bit of water arount the stem of the plant is that correct?
 

mikerob

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garden lime. dolomatic limstone
is what is used for some ph buffering in mediums. each item in a mix has its own ph to it. after all the items are mixed together this mix isnt always in the right ph range for our type of plant. so they can use lime to adjust the final ph of the mix. and makes sure it stays there with abuse of foods and watering. over time it wears off. but most have enough in them to run a grow without ever needing more. but that is for using the correct types soil for what we do. this is also the missconception to alot on the web that we dont need tp ph. they see it says ph buffered but they dont understand what buffered means. it doe not mean there is no need to ph food or water to grow in it. it means that the limes in it will slkow..or buffer the shifts the m,edium may want to do. therer is alot going on in the medium that makes ph shift by the hour in there. so its
you could take a fistfull of the soil. put in a cup and have holes in the bottom to strain it. run corectly ph1d water through and see what the run off shows for a ph and this will also give a close guestmate to what the ph of the medium is
so offline stones or pebbles looking for? Right?? Sorry for all the damn?s i just want to get it right!
 

mikerob

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i think it comes in both formes...............add the powder to the soil i would wait to do that when you transplant them for flower....for now your good .......it look like you just put a little bit of water arount the stem of the plant is that correct?
Yes purified drinking water
 

Cannabisworks

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yes use the fine powder for faster acting and larger chunk type for slow longer release., when i have done this ive used it at 1 tblspn per gal of soil. but this was not the same soil so you may need to adjust that
if you want to see what it looks like google it and look at images
 

Cannabisworks

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you can use liquid lime as a ph adjustor for your foods and waterings also. you have semi organic there so you need to pay attention to water sources now. dont want chlorine. so leave water out over night to evape off. and you dont want chloramines. you`d have to check what your location uses to clean oyur tap water. nor use baking soda as a ph adjuster either. all kills microbes in the organics in that soil mix
 

lowrider2000

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you need to make sure all the dirt is wet not just the part around the stem that may be why it looks like you have heat issues improper watering
 

Toolage 87

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Yea your lights are to high. I've gotten a 70w HPS with in a few 5 inches of the bulb with no problems so you should drop your lights to around 5 inches from the top.

Also for plants grown in hydro will always grow faster then then in soil.
 
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