250w HPS Club And Help Guide

frankcast04

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fucking trichomes galore, great looking plant, im planting two seeds each in a 3gallon smart pots and sunshine soil im planing on toping, i hope everything truns out good in this grow. so far every grow i have dealed with PM or aphids and now hermies fuck whats next not to mantion my very first grow on harvest day i took the plant out to get ready to trim the nugs i was super excited when i left the room for a second to get something from the other room my kid knock over the plant up side down OMFG all nuggs were covered in soil! fuck i can still feel the pain from that, any ways thanks for the info doobieus
 

Doobieus

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fucking trichomes galore, great looking plant, im planting two seeds each in a 3gallon smart pots and sunshine soil im planing on toping, i hope everything truns out good in this grow. so far every grow i have dealed with PM or aphids and now hermies fuck whats next not to mantion my very first grow on harvest day i took the plant out to get ready to trim the nugs i was super excited when i left the room for a second to get something from the other room my kid knock over the plant up side down OMFG all nuggs were covered in soil! fuck i can still feel the pain from that, any ways thanks for the info doobieus
Well Frank as well as everyone else, feel free to PM me if you ever have questions or whatever. If my message box is full (It happens sometimes), just let me know by commenting on my profile and I'll return a message when I can.

It happens Frank, that really sucks best of wishes and blessings from me to you this round. I hope your grow goes well, good luck and keep us updated as always. No problem on the info, and thanks to you and the others for the compliments.
 

Grazzmon

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Over the past few days the ph in my res has been dropping 5.8, 5.7, 5.6, and today after the noon flood it was 5.56. I have been adding back water to bring it back near 5.8 but just wondered if it's something else. Plants are doing great. I have also been slowly bumping nutes, I have a TDS meter (.5 conversion) and when the reading went down to just over 500 I bumped it to 600, then 700, after a flood it has been dropping just about 100 ppm. I know that means they are taking up nutes, just wondering if it has something to do with the ph going down. Should I add some ph up or just keep topping off?

Thanks..

Grazz
 

AWnox

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Over the past few days the ph in my res has been dropping 5.8, 5.7, 5.6, and today after the noon flood it was 5.56. I have been adding back water to bring it back near 5.8 but just wondered if it's something else. Plants are doing great. I have also been slowly bumping nutes, I have a TDS meter (.5 conversion) and when the reading went down to just over 500 I bumped it to 600, then 700, after a flood it has been dropping just about 100 ppm. I know that means they are taking up nutes, just wondering if it has something to do with the ph going down. Should I add some ph up or just keep topping off?

Thanks..

Grazz
The pH going up and/or down is normal. The plant itself (and the nutrients) adjusts the pH to make certain elements more available but not at the amounts your at though. Actually pH going down sounds like a good thing in my book as growers usually have a hard time keeping it down. Certain nutrients "buffer" pH better than others (after a certain amount of nutrients are used) , some don't at all but they certainly play a roll in your waters pH levels. What nutrients are you using? In any case you shouldn't be too alarmed if the pH is anywhere around 5.4-6.4 for that is the best range to have it in. I would suggest keep topping her with pH'ed water but never put pH down/up directly in the reservoir, should be mixed well before doing so.
 

Doobieus

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Over the past few days the ph in my res has been dropping 5.8, 5.7, 5.6, and today after the noon flood it was 5.56. I have been adding back water to bring it back near 5.8 but just wondered if it's something else. Plants are doing great. I have also been slowly bumping nutes, I have a TDS meter (.5 conversion) and when the reading went down to just over 500 I bumped it to 600, then 700, after a flood it has been dropping just about 100 ppm. I know that means they are taking up nutes, just wondering if it has something to do with the ph going down. Should I add some ph up or just keep topping off?

Thanks..

Grazz
Keep topping off dude, it'll be an easier transition rather than PH up. It'll fluctuate less and will be a hell of a lot easier to manage/control.
 

HobbyGrower72

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what's up fellow 250 watters. new to RIU but not new to growing.

Currently growing a FMS grapefruit and a bagseed in DWC. 7 weeks in flower. Also sprouted 3 seeds I got from a guy on a beach in Jamaica.

Widowrella cured 3 weeks - Grapefruit 7 weeks - Jamaican sprout

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Grazzmon

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The pH going up and/or down is normal. The plant itself (and the nutrients) adjusts the pH to make certain elements more available but not at the amounts your at though. Actually pH going down sounds like a good thing in my book as growers usually have a hard time keeping it down. Certain nutrients "buffer" pH better than others (after a certain amount of nutrients are used) , some don't at all but they certainly play a roll in your waters pH levels. What nutrients are you using? In any case you shouldn't be too alarmed if the pH is anywhere around 5.4-6.4 for that is the best range to have it in. I would suggest keep topping her with pH'ed water but never put pH down/up directly in the reservoir, should be mixed well before doing so.
Thanks, I am using GH in the Lucas formula which will be 8 Micro 16 Bloom when I get to full strength. That should get me near my max ppm using the TDS meter that I have. (the figure I got was 942 @ .5 conversion). I use ph down but definately do not want to start the ph up/down rollercoaster, I'll just top off and if it get's too low I can always do a partial res change.

I was pretty sure everything was going good, I guess I just wanted some reassurance..lol.

Grazz
 

AWnox

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Thanks, I am using GH in the Lucas formula which will be 8 Micro 16 Bloom when I get to full strength. That should get me near my max ppm using the TDS meter that I have. (the figure I got was 942 @ .5 conversion). I use ph down but definately do not want to start the ph up/down rollercoaster, I'll just top off and if it get's too low I can always do a partial res change.

I was pretty sure everything was going good, I guess I just wanted some reassurance..lol.

Grazz
GH nutrients are good at buffering your ph so your good with that course your taking. Just keep topping her and if you see that the pH keeps lowering on ya then just do an entire res change with the appropriate pH level and see where that takes ya. We're here to help you bro so keep us posted. 250W FTW!
 

Joos Springsteen

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End of the first month of veg with pre-flowers appearing.Also, a strange little creature I found while cleaning the shop.

Based on some research, it appears that the plant has suffered slightly from a zinc deficiency. I've begun feeding with 1/2 strength nutrients. The plant, at this point, is requiring a watering every 3-4 days
 

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Grazzmon

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Added some supplemental CFL lighting, I picked up 2 of these but can't use both atm (temps)

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11 Days..

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Grazz
 
fantastic idea lads i just upgraded from cfls to a 250w hps.got one lady with 3 weeks left still showing no signs of the pistils changing colour which they did at this stage under cfls...and i got 2 other girls in there 2 weeks into flower,both have stretched and are just showing pistils and looking great.....got the light about 10-12 inches above using hand underneath light method...got a small desk fan pointing up and at the light sending warm air up towards the extractor fan...temps are 79 on average which isnt harming them just watering regular but little ammounts but enough to keep them happy...using tomorite nutes for flowering....want to get into compost tea...heard it does wonders any info on that.....cheers lads..
 

Doobieus

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fantastic idea lads i just upgraded from cfls to a 250w hps.got one lady with 3 weeks left still showing no signs of the pistils changing colour which they did at this stage under cfls...and i got 2 other girls in there 2 weeks into flower,both have stretched and are just showing pistils and looking great.....got the light about 10-12 inches above using hand underneath light method...got a small desk fan pointing up and at the light sending warm air up towards the extractor fan...temps are 79 on average which isnt harming them just watering regular but little ammounts but enough to keep them happy...using tomorite nutes for flowering....want to get into compost tea...heard it does wonders any info on that.....cheers lads..
Sounds good, Strange and welcome!!

Plants will exhibit differences, even though it's all the same strain. The physical growth patterns, smell, taste and potency can differ depending on phenotype. Or it could just be a different strain, are you working with a strain or bagseed?

The only suggestion I have is to get those temps lower (Measure temp around 4-6 inches under the light), because at 5 inches you're around 50k lumens, at 10 inches you're around 12k lumens, and at 12 inches you're just under 9k lumens. If you get your temps down you can put your light closer and get better results, performance and production out of your light. You're robbing yourself of lumens, and with a 250 lumens are a very precious thing, due to the 250's small range of light penetration.

Are you looking to make your own compost tea or wanting information on an already made compost tea you can buy? I'm not sure on marketed compost tea, I think Frank, GPC or AWnox are using it (I can't remember which one). Making your own though, guano, water and an air stone and that's pretty much the basics. There are many different recipes out there, I'd read up on some of those recipes and figure out which you like or build off of it.

Hope this helps and again welcome.
 

Grazzmon

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Two Weeks down... I am getting concerned, if the girls get more than 16" taller I will need to do some adjustments to the grow area..lol

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Doobieus

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Two Weeks down... I am getting concerned, if the girls get more than 16" taller I will need to do some adjustments to the grow area..lol
I believe that BM has around a 200-250% stretch after bloom initiation. So you're looking at 2-2.5x what it started at.
 
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