250w HPS Club And Help Guide

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Sad day.. but a little maintenance and the Flower Cab will be back up n running



Got roots?



Reboot time :

I like the size and structure of the MM buds, the BM buds are a bit airy (haven't tried them yet), but I have tried the MM and.. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm .
So.. I am debating on either taking some clones from the MM mother/s and going straight to 12/12 or putting one of the mothers right in to 12/12 (that will take a bit of work though since my mothers from clones are nearly 24" high).

Grazz

Grazzmon said:

Sad day.. but a little maintenance and the Flower Cab will be back up n running

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Got roots?

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Reboot time :

I like the size and structure of the MM buds, the BM buds are a bit airy (haven't tried them yet), but I have tried the MM and.. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm .
So.. I am debating on either taking some clones from the MM mother/s and going straight to 12/12 or putting one of the mothers right in to 12/12 (that will take a bit of work though since my mothers from clones are nearly 24" high).

Grazz

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Clones and go SoG .

this late flowering stuff is such a hard wait! Unfortunately I got some nanners :/ Pretty late in flower so is it worth re-vegging this ladyman?

Broseidon said:

this late flowering stuff is such a hard wait! Unfortunately I got some nanners :/ Pretty late in flower so is it worth re-vegging this ladyman?
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Awww that sucks Bros, unfortunately the answer is no. Just start new and hope for a good pheno. Hermie or not the plant still looks nice.

Doobieus said:

Clones and go SoG .

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SoG it is.. took clones from the MM momma last night. I will be changing my method and medium for this from ebb&flow in hydroton. I am thinking of trying the ebb&flow with a large foam board to cover the tray and holes for net pots, so it will still be ebb&flow but I should be able to move the plants around a bit. Still in the planning phase and looking for input

Grazz

Hi there, I'm new here, english is not my main language but I can comunicate well without problems hehe
So... I got an 250 hps in a closet, no cooltube, biobizz's light mix soil, all organics, extractor and intractor are vk100, temps are between 17.8 C @ night and 30 C max peak @ day... Normaly is 26C . Strains are 3 indica pedominant (fat leaf) bagseeds and they were veggin for 4 weeks. I've LST'd and Supercropped them. Now they are on the 3rd day of flowering and I think one of them is male... I'm a 3rd time groer with cfl's, one time groer with 150w hps and first time on a 250. I've read all the posts till page 120/150.... I don't remember well..lol. and I took myself like a week to read it and I was still in year 2009 xDDD. Let me say THANK YOU "personally" to doob and mind!! you're goddsss!!! you helped a lot thank you!! *_* . Will be posting really soon all the way up to day 3 of flowering (today). Hope you like my little green friends . and... say something please!! thank you ! =D

good luck bigas!

Doobieus said:

Awww that sucks Bros, unfortunately the answer is no. Just start new and hope for a good pheno. Hermie or not the plant still looks nice.

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Thanks doobieus. I guess that's what I get for using bagseed I still think he/her/it will be a good smoke though! next go around I'll have more experience and get my hands on some quality genetics.

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....I'm using liquid Worm Castings, Bio-Grow, Bio-Bloom, Alg-A-Mic and TopMax... Trying to find a near place to buy some Molasses, I've heard very good things about it!... But I'm also sad because I've heard that you can't get much weight from organics and soil...... Anyway hope you like my flowers. =)

Broseidon said:

good luck bigas!

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Thanks Broseidon . Take a look at them

bigas89 said:

Hi there, I'm new here, english is not my main language but I can comunicate well without problems hehe
So... I got an 250 hps in a closet, no cooltube, biobizz's light mix soil, all organics, extractor and intractor are vk100, temps are between 17.8 C @ night and 30 C max peak @ day... Normaly is 26C . Strains are 3 indica pedominant (fat leaf) bagseeds and they were veggin for 4 weeks. I've LST'd and Supercropped them. Now they are on the 3rd day of flowering and I think one of them is male... I'm a 3rd time groer with cfl's, one time groer with 150w hps and first time on a 250. I've read all the posts till page 120/150.... I don't remember well..lol. and I took myself like a week to read it and I was still in year 2009 xDDD. Let me say THANK YOU "personally" to doob and mind!! you're goddsss!!! you helped a lot thank you!! *_* . Will be posting really soon all the way up to day 3 of flowering (today). Hope you like my little green friends . and... say something please!! thank you ! =D

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Welcome to the club Bigas, I'm glad that you've gotten so much help from reading the threads and posts. Thanks for the compliments for sure, that's always appreciated ha ha. Sounds like you've read up a lot and I can't wait to see how your grow progresses.

Broseidon said:

Thanks doobieus. I guess that's what I get for using bagseed I still think he/her/it will be a good smoke though! next go round I'll have more experience and get my hands on some quality genetics.

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Bag seed is like slots, especially if you don't know the person who grew it. You can sometimes hit the jackpot, and sometimes come out with nothing or 20 bucks. Regardless that plant looks awesome, don't use those seeds. They are no good unfortunately. Don't get yourself down too much, it's all apart of the learning process. You have a hermie yes, but you also have more knowledge/experience because of this.

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....I'm using liquid Worm Castings, Bio-Grow, Bio-Bloom, Alg-A-Mic and TopMax... Trying to find a near place to buy some Molasses, I've heard very good things about it!... But I'm also sad because I've heard that you can't get much weight from organics and soil...... Anyway hope you like my flowers. =)

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Looks good Bigas, molasses you can usually find at a grocery store. I'm not sure where you're from, but if you are in a country that doesn't have it in the stores. You can always order it online, the brands you want are going to be Plantation, Brer Rabbit or Grandma's. Just make sure it is unsulphured/blackstrap, it is great stuff. Molasses helps with microbe bacteria in your soil through carbohydrates/sugars and also has some macro and micro nutrients. However you use it for the carbohydrates more than the nutrients in it.

As far as yield, hydro does generally yield more. However with training methods like LST or SCRoG you can get more out of your soil grows. You should look into those techniques, they work wonders in my opinion.

Doobieus said:

Welcome to the club Bigas, I'm glad that you've gotten so much help from reading the threads and posts. Thanks for the compliments for sure, that's always appreciated ha ha. Sounds like you've read up a lot and I can't wait to see how your grow progresses.

Looks good Bigas, molasses you can usually find at a grocery store. I'm not sure where you're from, but if you are in a country that doesn't have it in the stores. You can always order it online, the brands you want are going to be Plantation, Brer Rabbit or Grandma's. Just make sure it is unsulphured/blackstrap, it is great stuff. Molasses helps with microbe bacteria in your soil through carbohydrates/sugars and also has some macro and micro nutrients. However you use it for the carbohydrates more than the nutrients in it.

As far as yield, hydro does generally yield more. However with training methods like LST or SCRoG you can get more out of your soil grows. You should look into those techniques, they work wonders in my opinion.

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Wooowww thankkss bro! I'll get it for shure! Now, about LST, my plants are well tied down hehehe, didn't you notice? I'm hopping to get across the 100g dry weight mark in this grow. what you think?

PS: how do I give +rep? and how do I change my photo, can you help? thanks a lot all the best to you 250watters

So 250 Clubbers.. I took 11 clones of my MM (Blue Mystic Mutant..lol), and I will be doing some type of DWC Ebb&Flow hybrid using the current ebb&flow set up that I have. When I have roots on these clones I plan to put them right into 3" net pots with a bit of hydroton @ 12/12 under the 250watt CMH. Question is whether the 250 will be able to handle an SoG of 11 clones. Thoughts?

Grazz

bigas89 said:

PS: how do I give +rep? and how do I change my photo, can you help? thanks a lot all the best to you 250watters

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Ok I got it! (about the avatar) Now... The +rep thing I can't find....

So 250 Clubbers.. I took 11 clones of my MM (Blue Mystic Mutant..lol), and I will be doing some type of DWC Ebb&Flow hybrid using the current ebb&flow set up that I have. When I have roots on these clones I plan to put them right into 3" net pots with a bit of hydroton @ 12/12 under the 250watt CMH. Question is whether the 250 will be able to handle an SoG of 11 clones. Thoughts?

Grazz

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I think from my little experience that 11 looks like a lot of plants for a 250w, unless you like yielding 10g plants hehe.
I think that for Sea of Green method 250w works well with 6 plants max.
All the best to you and your grows!

Grazzmon said:

So 250 Clubbers.. I took 11 clones of my MM (Blue Mystic Mutant..lol), and I will be doing some type of DWC Ebb&Flow hybrid using the current ebb&flow set up that I have. When I have roots on these clones I plan to put them right into 3" net pots with a bit of hydroton @ 12/12 under the 250watt CMH. Question is whether the 250 will be able to handle an SoG of 11 clones. Thoughts?

Grazz

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I say do 10 if you're doing a small veg time. Equal numbers are easier to work with in my opinion.

bigas89 said:

Now... The +rep thing I can't find....

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Follow the green arrow to plus rep land!!

Doobieus said:

I say do 10 if you're doing a small veg time. Equal numbers are easier to work with in my opinion.

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bigas89 said:

I think from my little experience that 11 looks like a lot of plants for a 250w, unless you like yielding 10g plants hehe.
I think that for Sea of Green method 250w works well with 6 plants max..

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OK.. I will split the difference sorta.. I am going with 8 clones straight to flower. I'm not gonna veg at all, I believe they will stretch and fill in as long as I have good roots before I move them.

Grazz

Final BM/MM Update:

Dry weight of the BM/MM grow was a little shy of 6 oz . I still have trim to process and I tend to maybe over manicure, so I know there was a lot of frosty little tidbits in the trim . Going to try a few methods besides qwiso.. dry ice and maybe BHO if I find a nice baster at BB&B Haven't done a real taste test yet, but I did put a little piece of each on a screen over some heat to check out the smell...


Grazz

(MFLB on it's way then there will be a test session or four..lol)

Doobieus said:

Follow the green arrow to plus rep land!!

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kewwwwllll thanks Doobieus =)


Hey just found a PISTIL!!! hopping for a nicee female in my bagseed grow... the other 2 look like one guy and one female but no preflowers still...
I'm happy, at least one hehe

...Now got here 1 Lemon Skunk, 1 Crimea Blue, 1 Super Bud and 1 Purple nº1 seeds hope they sprout...
Anyone have grewn any of this strains before under a 250watter?

Thanks in advance

update 5 weeks flowering..

i think you right doobies about leting this plant go 10 weeks i seen other pics of this strain at week 5 and they look more mature , and what i mean is the white pistol hairs are 50/50 orange and white this one are all white and this nuggs are not that big for being 5 weeks, what do you think?