250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Doobieus

Doobieus

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Matchbox said:
Cheers man! took a while to gather the bits but it's getting there :)



Yeah the plan is to do that eventually, it's not in use yet so its not urgent but I was just gonna use duct tape or put a lid on it. that'd probably do it :)
Eventually I'll have the medium and nutes ready for use, going to talk to my mate tomorrow see if he's willing to chip in for an oz or so XD



Nah Ebb and flow and flood and drain are the same thing I think you'll find, you can have top feed ebb and flow but this isn't one of those, the principle is the pump fills the tray for 15 mins 3 times a day to water them, the roots should technically stretch to the tray, but yeah the plan is to root clones in those propagation cubes and then put in 3 or 4" cubes (pots aren't very wide), once roots are seen at the bottoms of the larger cubes I'll stick them in the airpots with the hydroton stuff, should have enough roots to reach the tray's :)

anyway enough rambling XD



those airpots are awesome! the root mass you get from them is immense and plants are ridiculously healthy. The ONLY bad point about them imo is that when you water it comes all out the sides and is r8 messy XD lol



I'm well excited too, can't wait to get it running!!

Damn I haven't had that many replies to a post in aaaaaages!

Stay Frosty guys!
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Lol that just means we like ya lol.
 
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Itoland

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i got a 3x3x7 ft grow tent a 250w HPS should be good for 4 plants right? im just concerned about the heat thts why im not going with the 400w the tent has no vent holes ill have to make some and im not sure how good i can get the ventilation without risking light leaks ya know? vegging under 125w CFL and a few 26watters next week should start flowering once i recv my light but i have a adjustable ballast so a 400w wud be no problem to get? but i shud get by with a 250w right?
 
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East Coast Pro

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I'm also curious about you 250w HPS users in tents..what size tents you in? I was also looking at a 3x3x5-1/4 or something like that..if I used a 250w or 400w in there, would heat be a big issue? Also you guys with carbon filters, you got them inside the tent scrubbing or outside the tent with the air being exhausted out into it?
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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Itoland said:
i got a 3x3x7 ft grow tent a 250w HPS should be good for 4 plants right? im just concerned about the heat thts why im not going with the 400w the tent has no vent holes ill have to make some and im not sure how good i can get the ventilation without risking light leaks ya know? vegging under 125w CFL and a few 26watters next week should start flowering once i recv my light but i have a adjustable ballast so a 400w wud be no problem to get? but i shud get by with a 250w right?
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You can get by with a 250 with what you want to do. Duct tape will be one of your best friends lol, or that foil tape. The height is a little high, if you can work with the 400 go for it. You have I wanna say that Galaxy ballast or wth it's called, can't remember for the life of me sometimes lol.

Also welcome Ito.
 
cbtbudz

cbtbudz

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airpot ppl,how hard is it to transplant out of those?im hearing up to 30% increase in yeilds with just switching to airpots. this thread just wont stop!its great to see everyone that is in here.
 
Grazzmon

Grazzmon

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I'm also liking all of the activity here.. we might want to re-post the signature post :)

I took a look at the air pots, pretty reasonably priced for something that can be used many times. Although I'm liking the Smart pots I might have to give them a try, the Smart Pots are reusable but from looking at the air pots I can see that re-using them would be much easier.

Grazz
 
GreenGrower14

GreenGrower14

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Matchbox said:
Cheers man! took a while to gather the bits but it's getting there :)



Yeah the plan is to do that eventually, it's not in use yet so its not urgent but I was just gonna use duct tape or put a lid on it. that'd probably do it :)
Eventually I'll have the medium and nutes ready for use, going to talk to my mate tomorrow see if he's willing to chip in for an oz or so XD



Nah Ebb and flow and flood and drain are the same thing I think you'll find, you can have top feed ebb and flow but this isn't one of those, the principle is the pump fills the tray for 15 mins 3 times a day to water them, the roots should technically stretch to the tray, but yeah the plan is to root clones in those propagation cubes and then put in 3 or 4" cubes (pots aren't very wide), once roots are seen at the bottoms of the larger cubes I'll stick them in the airpots with the hydroton stuff, should have enough roots to reach the tray's :)

anyway enough rambling XD



those airpots are awesome! the root mass you get from them is immense and plants are ridiculously healthy. The ONLY bad point about them imo is that when you water it comes all out the sides and is r8 messy XD lol



I'm well excited too, can't wait to get it running!!

Damn I haven't had that many replies to a post in aaaaaages!

Stay Frosty guys!
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Well i hope it works out for you dude ill be subbed up if you start a journal..
 
Matchbox

Matchbox

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East Coast Pro said:
I'm also curious about you 250w HPS users in tents..what size tents you in? I was also looking at a 3x3x5-1/4 or something like that..if I used a 250w or 400w in there, would heat be a big issue? Also you guys with carbon filters, you got them inside the tent scrubbing or outside the tent with the air being exhausted out into it?
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250w would be great in your 3x3x5 tent, you could do a 400w but you'll need some damn good extraction.

As per Carbon filters I have my fan blowing into it so it's on the outside, this is the most efficient way to use them in terms of smell dispersal as more of the filters surface area is used... A lot of people have them on the inside and have the fans suck through them as it is more stealthy to have it on the inside, however if you have a tent it's not exactly stealth in the 1st place, so I'd mount on the outside. XD

cbtbudz said:
airpot ppl,how hard is it to transplant out of those?im hearing up to 30% increase in yeilds with just switching to airpots. this thread just wont stop!its great to see everyone that is in here.
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Airpots are SO easy to transplant out of, 1 way is to plant the smaller airpot directly into a large one, roots are no longer air pruned in the small pot and grow through then get air pruned in the second one... another way, they have 2 plastic screw in type things that you use when you put them together (they come flat packed and just require being rolled round and screwed together) just unscrew them and unwrap the root mass, transplant as usual.

Grazzmon said:
I'm also liking all of the activity here.. we might want to re-post the signature post :)

I took a look at the air pots, pretty reasonably priced for something that can be used many times. Although I'm liking the Smart pots I might have to give them a try, the Smart Pots are reusable but from looking at the air pots I can see that re-using them would be much easier.

Grazz
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probably because it's spring everyone's happy and wants to grow more (spring is good in the UK lol seeing as it rains most of our summer) XD

Haven't seen smart pots in detail but air pots you just unwrap clean down put back together and fill don't think it gets that much easier :)

GreenGrower14 said:
Well i hope it works out for you dude ill be subbed up if you start a journal..
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I do have a journal, if you fancy checking it out, it's in my sig or - Grow #4: Multi Strain 250w HPS Parabolic ScrOG nothing much going on just vegging mums for now, due for an update this weekend XD
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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East Coast Pro said:
I'm also curious about you 250w HPS users in tents..what size tents you in? I was also looking at a 3x3x5-1/4 or something like that..if I used a 250w or 400w in there, would heat be a big issue? Also you guys with carbon filters, you got them inside the tent scrubbing or outside the tent with the air being exhausted out into it?
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I have 2 tents, but the bigger one has the 250. CFL supplement and recently added this grow a 110w T5. The bigger tent I want to say is 2x3 or 2x4 and a little over 5 ft tall. A 400 would be a bigger heat issue than a 250 naturally, bigger light equals bigger fans than a 250 would need.

Carbon filters, it doesn't matter which way you put them really. I put it on the inside of my tent, so I pull through. It really depends on your setup honestly. The reason I chose to put the CF on the inside is because my tents are in a closet. It is a walk in closet with 2 tents inside, the closet has a bi-fold door. I put Panda/Poly film behind the bi-fold door and made a vent area for my ducting to push through. So since I have my ducting rigged this way I had to put my CF on the inside.

Grazzmon said:
I'm also liking all of the activity here.. we might want to re-post the signature post :)

I took a look at the air pots, pretty reasonably priced for something that can be used many times. Although I'm liking the Smart pots I might have to give them a try, the Smart Pots are reusable but from looking at the air pots I can see that re-using them would be much easier.

Grazz
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Gah Grazz makin' me work here, thankfully I bookmarked it awhile back ;-). All the activity is pretty great, the more the merrier for sure!!

I have heard that the air pots are better than the smart pots, because the air pots air prune better and don't allow for as much root circling because of it's design. A 5 gallon would really be like having a 10 gallon, my friend has the 5 gallon ones. The prices are a little steeper than smart pots though, but next round I will have to bite the bullet and get some. The proof is in the puddin', and the puddin' is hellllllla good lol.

cbtbudz said:
airpot ppl,how hard is it to transplant out of those?im hearing up to 30% increase in yeilds with just switching to airpots. this thread just wont stop!its great to see everyone that is in here.
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I don't think there really is a need for transplant from air pot to air pot if that is what you mean? They are meant to air prune so I don't see why there would be a need to transplant? Even so I'd imagine that the root system would be ridiculously easy to transplant, probably all meaty and healthy. I'm not an air pot person but thought I'd add my .02 cents. I'd like to know the answer to these questions from someone with air pot experience too.

Yeah CBT it's pretty awesome lately, totally diggin' it.

Itoland said:
much help THANKS :clap:
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No problem, always glad to help.

Edit: CBT MB beat me to it, totally missed that.
 
Matchbox

Matchbox

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lol totally a whopping cock! lol not sure if it's the internet though, probably the never ending stream of cock jokes from growing up in the 80's and 90's XD

o_O on an actual question, does anyone have an opinion on Dyna Gro or HESI nutrients for hydro...

I'm considering the HESI Hydro starter kit, with the Grow, Bloom, PK 13/14, Roots Complex, Supervit, Powerzyme. Which is really good for £40, and the reviews are quite good.

OR

Dyna Gro which includes, Dyna Gro Bloom, Dyna Gro All Purpose. For around £30

Either way I plan to get the Advanced Nutrients Big Bud, powder as gram for gram compared to liquid, it makes so many more mixes and it's cheaper than the liquid!
I've heard ridiculous good things about the Dyna Gro stuff but I wonder if it will be enough kind of stims and additives as the HESI mix.

BUT lol

From what I've read the Dyna Grow has basically everything the plants need in 2 bottles instead of 5... maybe I'll add a PK booster in there too if I get the funds.

Any opinions?
 
mikmike

mikmike

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Finally finished completing my grow space. ripped the old mylar down and got a new back board for the cabinate and screwed it in and put mylar on and the sides and also added those 2X120mm fans one for intake and one for outtake. Ran my system for couple hrs and the temp got the highest of 78 (think that is good) The house is at 75. Now i just need my bloody seeds to come in damn u ICS NEW YORK. they have now had it 6 days sill just sitting there. here are some new pics of the grow cabinate.

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GreenGrower14

GreenGrower14

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East Coast Pro said:
Hey guys, this is the tent I think I'm getting, good for a 250? I'll be doing 12-12 from seed in probably 2-3gal pots, how many you think I could pull off in here with the 250? And at the risk of sounding stupid, what's the optional flange it asks about at the bottom of the page?


http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-Grow-Tent---Size-S-22-x-36-x-63---Silver-Lined.asp
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Well to be honest i have the same tent and i have to say the only thing im gonna be using it for when i set up my perpetual is for my mothers. Its a rectangle which makes cooling a little tricky cause it long and skinny instead of a boxz so that also limits you to putting the filter on the outside of the tent, nothing wrong with that as long as you can vent outta the room properly. Then theres the problem of unequal light distribution, since its not a square it kinda throws off the footprint of the light. So if i were in your spot i would pay the exta 30 bucks and get this one

http://htgsupply.com/Product-Grow-Tent---Size-Original-39-x-39-x79---Silver-Lined.asp

Hope it helps

GG
 
rufusgrower

rufusgrower

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hello people , just managed to find a buy probably the only 'pyrex bake a round' in the uk, got it off ebay for £26. my seedling still isn't in my box because the temps easily get up to 35 c with the light on for about 10 mins. so this home made cooltube should save the day :weed:
i've had my seedling on my window sill for the past couple days but now its got cloudy going to set up some cfls in my grow box , i only have one 15w blue spec light and one 45w red spec but it will still help it grow in till i get the cool tube , which will be arriving in 6-8 days
the seedlings a little small for 6 days old but hopefully it will start growing a bit quicker over the next week, its only got one pair of leaves not including the round ones, but you can see the second pair just coming threw. i'll stay updated

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