250w HPS Club And Help Guide

stoneslacker

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I started doing this a few weeks ago.
I bought a bunch of the ball 4 oz. jars. They even come with labels. So I just right the strain and the date it was jarred on the label.
So far I have LSD, Purple Haze, Lemon Haze, Auto Bomb, and Fruity Chronic Juice. Only an 1/8 or so of each.

I wonder how long it will last before it actually degrades...
These are the ones I use. I just save 1 or 2 choice buds once they are cured and seal and don't open. Hard not to crack it open and get a whiff, especially once you run out of that strain. Was worth it though, 3 months and only seemed like it would get better. And that was without a true airtight seal. Can't wait to open the blueberry and trainwreck samples I have in a couple months.
 

Brother Numsi

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^ Thank you so much, very informative...
As far as ballast goes... I'm getting ADJUSTA-WATT DIMMABLE DIGITAL 660W-600W-400W-250W and from what I read it suppose to be really good piece of equipment.

So my plan is to use 250w MH bulb for veg period and 400w for flowering (assuming I can deal with temperature in my 5 sq feet closet)
Basically what you're saying is, read the description and pick one with the highest lumens... I asked about this because I was thinking that there is one brand that does the job better then others.

I'm thinking about getting these:
250w SUNMASTER COOL DELUXE METAL HALIDE
Philips Son-T PIA Plus HPS 250w
Are they good? Can I get something better?
High Guys.
Just to jump in for a second, but before you buy anything do a lot of reading, ask questions like you are doing, BUT establish a budget and expect to exceed it. Since you are in the learning phase and we can only guess at your budget there are things that come up which cost $$$. Even though you are using 250w things like circulation, ventilation, odor control, air tight jar, humidity and temp control, ph, etc. All these may not apply to you, but some will. If you need any additives or pest control that's $$$, too.

I say this not to scare you, but to urge you to do good research.
This is a good thread to take a look at:
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/412440-vocabulary-slang-terms-updated-missing.html

You will have a ton of support in the 250 watt club. Learn a lot and HAVE FUN!!
Good luck!
 

brettsog

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need a little help, i fed my ak48 for the first time last night. 1/2 strength lucas formula, 3ml micro 4.5ml bloom with a tsp of epsom salts for the entire gallon (3.8ltrs), when i have gone in there today the coytoledons have yellowed and the leaf tips are curling up with what looks like heat stress or overwatering. im using coco so i didnt think i could over water. the yellowing is spreading into the higher up leaves. there are only 2 sets so i figured it was time to start feeding. do you guys think i should flush or let it sit for a few days to see what happens?
 

stoneslacker

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need a little help, i fed my ak48 for the first time last night. 1/2 strength lucas formula, 3ml micro 4.5ml bloom with a tsp of epsom salts for the entire gallon (3.8ltrs), when i have gone in there today the coytoledons have yellowed and the leaf tips are curling up with what looks like heat stress or overwatering. im using coco so i didnt think i could over water. the yellowing is spreading into the higher up leaves. there are only 2 sets so i figured it was time to start feeding. do you guys think i should flush or let it sit for a few days to see what happens?
I would hit them with no more than 1/4 str nutes until they show some branching. Small seedlings with just the first couple sets of true leaves showing usually dont need much in the way of nutes.

I use perlite hempy buckets and while it is hard to overwater it is definitely possible. If the growing medium is not allowed to dry out then overwatering can be an issue. If I were you I would just monitor them, giving only water for a bit and if they start to burn then I would flush.

Stubborn as I am, I am finally understanding that less is definitely more when it comes to nutes. I tried to force feed these two I have now like pigs at a trough, and I am backing them down now trying to find that "goldilocks" zone. It's been a real struggle the past week or so, yellowing all over the place and some tip burn on the sugar leaf.:wall:
 

brettsog

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yeah. i would rather get feeding dialled in now while they a re vegging so i dont have to worry so much later in their life. i fed my WW clone as well and its grown nearly 2" in a day so im pretty happy with that :) will have to rinse the coco through now and try again once they are bigger.
 
High Guys.
Just to jump in for a second, but before you buy anything do a lot of reading, ask questions like you are doing, BUT establish a budget and expect to exceed it. Since you are in the learning phase and we can only guess at your budget there are things that come up which cost $$$. Even though you are using 250w things like circulation, ventilation, odor control, air tight jar, humidity and temp control, ph, etc. All these may not apply to you, but some will. If you need any additives or pest control that's $$$, too.

I say this not to scare you, but to urge you to do good research.
This is a good thread to take a look at:
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/412440-vocabulary-slang-terms-updated-missing.html

You will have a ton of support in the 250 watt club. Learn a lot and HAVE FUN!!
Good luck!
Hey, you are raising some valid points, and you are right. At the beginning of this I was thinking of spending about Ł200-300 (350-500$) thus far I spent about 360$


I still need extraction fan, carbon filter, Hesi soil starter kit, bucket for storing water, electricity meter, socket timer so that will be probably another 150$ or more. But yeah I am committed, and I've been buying weed for 14 year, no more gentelmen. I say no more!
Thanks for all the advice.

It's been 12h now since I put 4 feminized white widow seeds in destilled water, and one(edit: 3) of them started to crack. There seems to be alot of opinion on this, how long should I keep them soaking ?
 

10acjed

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yeah. i would rather get feeding dialled in now while they a re vegging so i dont have to worry so much later in their life. i fed my WW clone as well and its grown nearly 2" in a day so im pretty happy with that :) will have to rinse the coco through now and try again once they are bigger.
I know my 3 BB's were very sensitive to nutes early on while my 1 sativa would take whatever I dumped on her. The 3 were yellow and she stayed green.
 

10acjed

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Thanks for all the advice.
Your doing the right thing by coming here and getting all the information you can. I jumped into it a little early, and while I was still able to pull down a decent yeild, it would have been much better if I waited and asked.

Not sure if you have one and just did not put it on the list. But your growing in soil from the looks of it.
I have one big important tip for you, get a good Ph meter and make sure you have some Ph Up/Down. You can get away with it at first, just use distilled. But after 3 weeks or so you will want to start adding nutes, and trust me they will mess with your soil if not properly adjusted.

Dipping a Ph meter is so simple and accurate, and your not going to find many in this thread to disagree with me...

I learned the hard way. I pulled 100g+ my first time, its about 50/50 of good smelling, tasting bud, and bud that doesnt taste or smell very good, dont get me wrong it works, but I am finicky about taste.. The Mrs looks at me like Im crazy, but I dont smoke only for effect.
I will use most of it for food.

I thought at first it was drying/curing issues. But it wasnt, I dried some in a box, total darkness, then jarred in total darkness and nothing is helping. Just smells a little like plant, some hay, and has less trichs than its sister.
 

Brother Numsi

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Hey, you are raising some valid points, and you are right. At the beginning of this I was thinking of spending about Ł200-300 (350-500$) thus far I spent about 360$


I still need extraction fan, carbon filter, Hesi soil starter kit, bucket for storing water, electricity meter, socket timer so that will be probably another 150$ or more. But yeah I am committed, and I've been buying weed for 14 year, no more gentelmen. I say no more!
Thanks for all the advice.

It's been 12h now since I put 4 feminized white widow seeds in destilled water, and one(edit: 3) of them started to crack. There seems to be alot of opinion on this, how long should I keep them soaking ?

Good job!! How will you manage odor control? Looks like you are well within the budget.
Keep up the good work!!
 

Hettyman

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^ some kind of carbon filter + pipe going out the window I guess
Wouldn't suggest putting it straight out of the window, pump it into the room, an leave the window open a little. This will bring in fresh, cool air, with a good CO2 content, that will help keep your grow room temps down, and your plants healthy.

Also, pumping hot air straight out of a window may attract unwanted attention if noticed by heat cameras.

But 10acjed got it right, better to get some helpful hints first, or end up with problems, drama's and lost plants. You will probably experience all of these anyway, that's how you learn, but the more info you have, the less mistakes you'll make :)
 

Hettyman

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Just a quick update on my ladies.

2 big-ish Blue Mystic, flipped 18 days ago.
4 smaller Blue Mystic, in veg, just repotted and watered

One of the smaller ones is in a 7 litre air pot as a trial, and the other 3 are in 6.5 litre pots. They will be topped in 3 or 4 days, and then vegged for a final ten days before flipping

I have just released another 200 spider mite predators as the fuckers have returned. but should be wiped out iin a matter of days as I caught them very early

Please excuse the pics...I have a memory card on order for my real camera, but phone will have to do for now
 

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RCgrowerman

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As someone who has been through firefighting school for the military I can tell you that any hot
air is easily noticed even with our portable units used in fires. They are very accurate and use only
AA batteries just to give you an idea of how easy it is to be spotted. The ones they mount on
helicopters just scare the hell out of me haha
 

Hettyman

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As someone who has been through firefighting school for the military I can tell you that any hot
air is easily notice even with our portable units used in fires. They are very accurate and use only
AA batteries just to give you an idea of how easy it is to be spotted. The ones they mount on
helicopters just scare the hell out of me haha
There should be a "dislike" button...you just got the paranoia setting in :)
 

Hettyman

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I thought at first it was drying/curing issues. But it wasnt, I dried some in a box, total darkness, then jarred in total darkness and nothing is helping. Just smells a little like plant, some hay, and has less trichs than its sister.
did you burb them properly?? Also, I've found that for the first couple of weeks they smell planty and hay like, but then get a whole lot better
 
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