250w HPS Club And Help Guide

GreenGrower14

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Well she is starting to carbo load and starting to make crystals aswell. here are some pics. idn if you guys can tell but she is defiantly packing on the weight. enjoy the pics

GG
 

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Grazzmon

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Time to start over.. I managed to get about 6oz out of the Blue Mystic Grow that Hermied (or caught some pollen from the PPP grow from last year :() . The only up side is that now I got some seeds :mrgreen:.
I am in the process of a total sanitation of the room and I'm looking for some advice on two things. First is definitely "Odor Control" because I am tired of the other (better?) half's "Oooh, it's smells like weed in here" comments..:hump: and of course the concern that someone might catch a whiff and feel that it's their duty to turn in the Drug addled Junkie that's growing that evil weed.. :-?
The second is temp control, it's the only thing can think of that may have stressed the Blue Mystic grow into Hermie because I didn't have any pH or PPM problems, no light leaks or disturbances during the 12 hours of dark. I did have a couple times when I needed to add or redirect a fan or two when the temps got into the mid to upper 90's F.
I have a 6"x18" Carbon filter coming today and wondered if building a draft hood might take care of both of these issues.. Any thoughts?

Graz
 

Doobieus

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Time to start over.. I managed to get about 6oz out of the Blue Mystic Grow that Hermied (or caught some pollen from the PPP grow from last year :() . The only up side is that now I got some seeds :mrgreen:.
I am in the process of a total sanitation of the room and I'm looking for some advice on two things. First is definitely "Odor Control" because I am tired of the other (better?) half's "Oooh, it's smells like weed in here" comments..:hump: and of course the concern that someone might catch a whiff and feel that it's their duty to turn in the Drug addled Junkie that's growing that evil weed.. :-?
The second is temp control, it's the only thing can think of that may have stressed the Blue Mystic grow into Hermie because I didn't have any pH or PPM problems, no light leaks or disturbances during the 12 hours of dark. I did have a couple times when I needed to add or redirect a fan or two when the temps got into the mid to upper 90's F.
I have a 6"x18" Carbon filter coming today and wondered if building a draft hood might take care of both of these issues.. Any thoughts?

Graz
Store those beans in a nice dark cool place to dry out, then in a jar. Also before planting any of those beans, make damn sure the Blue Mystic isn't hermied, as your new beans will probably grow out hermies. As far as the CF, that sounds about the same size as mine, should be fine.

Now the fun part is temp control lol. What are your cubed dimensions/CFM needed and what is your setup?

My setup is a tent that is I would say 2ft deep x 3ft wide x 5ft tall, maybe a little bit bigger give or take but that's round about how big it is. Anyhow I have a passive intake at the bottom, with the CF at the top opposite corner of the intake, ducted through the hood, then ducted to the vortex fan. Outside of the tent, there is more ducting to vent the hot air out of the closet, as well as again passive intake in the closet from a window AC that I ghetto rigged a duct reducer out of flat rate boxes to point towards the closet lol. The vortex fan is on a fan control, and I also have a can fan at the bottom of the closet for those just in case moments, but will probably use that for my clone/veg cab when I build it, since it's never on and I don't use it anyway. My temps are very controlled, but with the fan on high or w/o the fan control it stays at a cool 72F-76F throughout the day. I don't have to keep it on high though, medium works well for me and keeps it at a range of 74F-78F with a max of 78.4F to be exact.

Sorry for the novel, but hope this helps Grazz.
 

GreenGrower14

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well the easiest thing i can think of for heat control is a cooltube or air cooled hood. what are the dimensions of your grow again i think you said in an earlier post but i dont remember? i keep my seeds in little bead bags (like dime bags lol) then i put them in a freezer bag and squeeze out all the air then i put the whole package in a minilla bubble wrap padded envelope and put it in my dresser drawer under my cloths where it stays nice and cold and dark. 6 oz isnt bad at all bro even with the seeds id still call it a success.
 

frankcast04

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what up guys just wanted to know if i should harvest my jack herer 12 days from now ? the trichomes have a soft white colore and some amber ish color ones, i called the club that sold me the clones and they sed to harvet them at like week 8 1/2 if the trichomes already look milky white, i hear not to let a sativa trichomes get too many amber trichomes that it will ruin the sativa high?! what you guys think? today is day 44 of 12/12
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frankcast04

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i seen other sativas at week 7 and the pistals still look white, i think this jack might finish earlyer then 12 weeks
 

col. forbin

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The trichs look cloudy and if I am not mistaken I see an amber or two. Maybe a week or two. Hairs will receed a little. You can also tell when a plant is finished when you flick your stem at the bottom of the plant...if it feels hollow then the plant is not allowing any more nutrients into it therefor it is close to being done. Also you can tell that when a big fat bud that is usually standing up straight has fallen over and the plant appears to be noodlelike. This is a sure sign of nearing the end of the road.
 

Doobieus

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i seen other sativas at week 7 and the pistals still look white, i think this jack might finish earlyer then 12 weeks
You can do it by eye like col said which works well, but a microscope would be best to view the trichomes properly, even on camera the clear trichs can look cloudy. Radioshack if you still have one around, 12 bucks with tax.

Especially if you're looking for a particular kind of high, a scope would make life easier. The last swell is usually a good indicator as well, I would probably give that longer personally but then again.... different tokes for different folks.
 

Grazzmon

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well the easiest thing i can think of for heat control is a cooltube or air cooled hood. what are the dimensions of your grow again i think you said in an earlier post but i dont remember? i keep my seeds in little bead bags (like dime bags lol) then i put them in a freezer bag and squeeze out all the air then i put the whole package in a minilla bubble wrap padded envelope and put it in my dresser drawer under my cloths where it stays nice and cold and dark. 6 oz isnt bad at all bro even with the seeds id still call it a success.
Thanks for the replies GG and Doob,
The area I have was sort of a paint booth, (the previous owner had a ceramic doll business) the room is 6' x 4' and the grow area I have in the room is 48" x 22" and about 5' to the ceiling. The height has never been an issue since I keep my plants on the short side (LST). I have three walls covered with Mylar and a sheet of luan coated in Mylar that I can move out when I need to look in on the girls.. I am thinking that since I need to sanitize the area, I might as well take the Mylar down and just paint the walls white. It will be easier to maintain and from what I have read it will be just as effective as the Mylar.
While I have access to the room (nothing growing atm) I was thinking that after I paint I can mount the CF and build a hood, maybe I will get creative and make the whole growing area into a cabinet ;)

Grazz
 

Grazzmon

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Store those beans in a nice dark cool place to dry out, then in a jar. Also before planting any of those beans, make damn sure the Blue Mystic isn't hermied, as your new beans will probably grow out hermies. As far as the CF, that sounds about the same size as mine, should be fine.

Thanks Doob,
I can't say for sure that the Blue Mystic wasn't hermied. What is this in the pic? P1000734.jpg

If those are pollen sacks then I definately had a hermie. Never saw any bananas..

Grazz
 

GreenGrower14

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Store those beans in a nice dark cool place to dry out, then in a jar. Also before planting any of those beans, make damn sure the Blue Mystic isn't hermied, as your new beans will probably grow out hermies. As far as the CF, that sounds about the same size as mine, should be fine.

Thanks Doob,
I can't say for sure that the Blue Mystic wasn't hermied. What is this in the pic? View attachment 1776982

If those are pollen sacks then I definately had a hermie. Never saw any bananas..

Grazz
Gazz were there any seeds in those pods. because the bud makes those pods with the hope that it will fill it with a seed. So no seed = no hermie bro...
 

Doobieus

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i do have a 100x microscope thats why im telling you guys what i see,how long would you leave it 2 weeks 3 -4? more
If you like a more up high I'd say 1-2weeks, if the club you got them from said 8 weeks and the plant is showing signs of being matured well at 8 weeks then go for it. Are you looking at the trichomes under the HPS? If so, that can show false ambers because of the light.

Thanks for the replies GG and Doob,
The area I have was sort of a paint booth, (the previous owner had a ceramic doll business) the room is 6' x 4' and the grow area I have in the room is 48" x 22" and about 5' to the ceiling. The height has never been an issue since I keep my plants on the short side (LST). I have three walls covered with Mylar and a sheet of luan coated in Mylar that I can move out when I need to look in on the girls.. I am thinking that since I need to sanitize the area, I might as well take the Mylar down and just paint the walls white. It will be easier to maintain and from what I have read it will be just as effective as the Mylar.
While I have access to the room (nothing growing atm) I was thinking that after I paint I can mount the CF and build a hood, maybe I will get creative and make the whole growing area into a cabinet :wink:

Grazz
Flat white paint will work well. I mean in all honesty the difference between panda film, mylar and paint are very small percentages. I think you will have a little more reflectivity with the flat white paint. Getting creative is always fun lol.

Those are calyxes obviously female parts, you want to check the calyxes in the buds themselves not on the meristem/main stem.

Hope this helps some you two.
 

Grazzmon

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Flat white paint will work well. I mean in all honesty the difference between panda film, mylar and paint are very small percentages. I think you will have a little more reflectivity with the flat white paint. Getting creative is always fun lol.

Those are calyxes obviously female parts, you want to check the calyxes in the buds themselves not on the meristem/main stem.

Hope this helps some you two.
Thanks Doob,
I was 99% sure that those were calyxes and I did not run across anything that looked like male parts. I do have some seeds though. I will have to try a few out and keep a closer eye on them, I am hoping that it was something from the last PPP since that would be an interesting cross.

BTW: I did snag a small piece of 2 week cured Bud from a Mason Jar the other day and it really kicked ass.. have to get some to a couple buddies to get an objective review..lol

Grazz
 

GreenGrower14

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I couldnt resist i had to get some pics of the girls with the lights off. lol this is just before the lights came on so im thinkin i did no harm. Shes really starting to pack on the weight now, although for this many weeks into flower i would have thought she would have been a little frostier. interested to know what you all think.

GG
 

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Doobieus

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Thanks Doob,
I was 99% sure that those were calyxes and I did not run across anything that looked like male parts. I do have some seeds though. I will have to try a few out and keep a closer eye on them, I am hoping that it was something from the last PPP since that would be an interesting cross.

BTW: I did snag a small piece of 2 week cured Bud from a Mason Jar the other day and it really kicked ass.. have to get some to a couple buddies to get an objective review..lol

Grazz
Well if you're that sure it's just residual then just pop em', maybe you'll run into a genotype that is a keeper. Lol pass it around man!!
 

Doobieus

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I couldnt resist i had to get some pics of the girls with the lights off. lol this is just before the lights came on so im thinkin i did no harm. Shes really starting to pack on the weight now, although for this many weeks into flower i would have thought she would have been a little frostier. interested to know what you all think.

GG
Are you just using the base nutes from FF? Or both the trio packs?
 
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