250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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Hettyman said:
Well, I got inspired by the chat the last day or so, so went about training my Big Buddha Cheese ladies. I had already topped them late in veg to slow them down a bit while the flower chamber became free (and to aid growth and yield of course). I was gonna leave them like this as they had grown really dense and bushy ender CFL's anyway, and the lower branches had really reached up. Today I got out my screws and cable ties, and spent a little time training them. I din't do much, as you can see from the one pic I took as a "before and after" style thing, but it does mean that all the budd sites will be within 6" of the lamp at the edges and 3" directly under the bulb....Nice!!!

When the lights come on tomorrow, I will add some more pics of them in the tent, once they have all upturned properly.

NB - I Increased the bend on one stem by tightening the cable tie, and couldn't feel the tension,...snapped the stem!! Not worried too much, as I dropped a 15" desk fan on 2 ladies, on 2 separate occasions and they seemed almost totally unaffected...god I love nature. It was in the first week of flower, and I expected that stem to be seriously stunted in budd, as it had to spend time repairing rather then creating budd...it didn't seem any less productive then the others :)

PERSONAL JESUS - the reason Verde and myself train plants, the day after watering, is that they are weaker and more easily bent. If you find your plants wilting a little when they need watering, you can physically see the water being moved up the plant, as the branches return to position, workng from the bottom up. I would say it is worth letting one lady get a little too dry, just once, in veg, so you can soak it back up, roll a smoke, and watch the wonder of nature. Don't be a dick like me and try and bend too much on the first day. You can always increase the bend a little after a day or 2

I know they are a little pale, mag def stopped them using up Nitrogen properly, but both are now back on track, and hopefully they will look greener tomorrow
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Haha. Awesome. Love how you employed the cable ties. Remember that as the branches get thicker they will get harder to bend, and more risky to try to bend. So pull the soon-to-be thick, main branches down sooner than later..

And yes, definitely watch the snaps! It happens though. No worries. A good tip is to keep a roll of masking tape within reaching distance of your plants. If a snap does occur, you can hold your plant in place with one hand, tear off some tape with the other, and tape it up without any serious damage occurring. A lot of the time if you don't let the broken branch just hang on it's own weight, the injury is usually a simple tear that heals up in a week. :) And masking tape is ok for plants because it's meant to be removed, so the adhesive isn't very strong or damaging to the plants tissues.


But yes, tighten your zip tie down a bit, and leave it, then come back another day and tighten it a little more :). That's what I like about zip ties, you can adjust very easily later on if you set it up correctly.
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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I was lucky, the snapped stem was resting naturally on some branches next to, taking the weight, so a little tape to help hold it, and away we go :)

I definitely left them too long to start training, the blue cheese in my 400w tent, which were a week younger, have better results from todays trimming and are lovely and green, but I shan't go on about that on the 25o thread.

That was a lazy way of employing cable ties lol. I put the screws in by hand cos I couldn't be bothered to walk out of the room and get a screw driver (luckily they are pretty soft plastic) and then just pulled the highest few stems over. I can already see that If i had started this earlier I could have filled my 2x2 space totally by now, but this way I have enough room for a couple of rows of little clones.

This is my most adventurous grow yet, and I have a couple of cheese, some blue cheese, a strawberrry cough and one Aurora INdica from my last grow where there was a tiny hermie issue cos I knocked the timer. Out of 5 plants I only found 1 seed though. That would be 4 strains at once...I can't wait!!!!
 
PersonalJesus

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AWESOME... truly awesome.

I'm definitely gonna do some LST, including SCROG with this G13 Haze... I keep putting off topping her for some reason. I gotta just grab my fiskars and do it.
 
giggles26

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PersonalJesus said:
AWESOME... truly awesome.

I'm definitely gonna do some LST, including SCROG with this G13 Haze... I keep putting off topping her for some reason. I gotta just grab my fiskars and do it.
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It's simple and if you fuck up then you did a FIM instead :D. You really can't mess it up.
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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sk8nbmxr411 said:
Just came across this thread. I have a 3x3 tent with a 250w HPS and I want in this club! Am I worthy

View attachment 2500774 8 weeks into flowering
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Nice work, what is that you be growing in there??

This isn't a criticism more a thought or advice, but I recon you could be doing a lot more with that space and a 250. A little more training, or an extra plant, and you'd still be fine and get a much higher yield, and probably stronger too...but I guess you know about light intensity increasing THC. And the way I see it, if I'm paying for the extra electricity, I want as little light as possible hitting the floor, it's wasted money

Also if you haven't tried it yet...do a test run for an hour without the intake pipe from the exhaust fan running down to the reflector. Every right angle in your ducting reduces airflow dramatically (25-50%..i read last year and can't be bothered to double check the exact figures, but it's definitely a problem lol). You have a huge amount of circulating fans blowing the heat away before it reaches your canopy, which should mean all the hot air is getting blown to the sides of the tent, where it should rise to the top. I have my 250 in a 2x2 tent, and even in the summer when ambient temps are 75-80, I can keep the bulb 6" away from the canopy, no problems. All I have is a small 4" PC style fan blowing the air off the bulb, and in fact keeping the bulb nicely cool, and a 4" basic extractor fan, being hindered by a carbon filter, but the thing is, there is only 4" of pipe from the filter to the fan, and then 4" out of the tent, and it's all in a perfect straight line, pullng all the hottest air, at the top of the tent, straight out, and passively sucking the cooler outside air into the tent as it goes. This may not work for your set, but worth a try if you have some spare time.

I have thrown in a couple of pics of my 3x3 tent, which has a 400, this is 1 week after flip with really not much training at all. It's exactly the same air set up as my 250 tent, so you can see how small my circulating fan is, and how it is used.

By all means tell me to fuck off (but politely please lol) I appreciate that everyone likes to grow their own way, and live and let live I recon... everyone keeps telling me to swap to hydro or aero, but I like soil, and I'm not changing. I accept growing their way may give me more bang per buck, but i'm a personal grower, and enjoy the taste and the physical, dirty, traditional garden way of doing it
 

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Hettyman

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Here s what is happening in my 250 tent right now. 2 Big BUddha Cheese, veg from seed, and one clone, the first to take root, and was potted 3 days ago. I also have some other clones, CHeese, Blu CHeese, and possibly a strawberry cough, but I got lost lol. They are under a 125w CFL, alongside an Aurora indica, from seed. They went into their pots yesterday, and switched from 24hrs light to 20/4...i'll give them 5 days or so to get settled, and get some colour back in their cheeks, and then they will be squeezed into the spaces in my tent, at 12/12.

The big ladies were flipped about a week ago, and I am hopefuly in the process of catching up the Nitrogen def.

Also thrown in is a picture of my new waterng can, with sprinkle head. I put off buying one, cos they are so expensive for what they are, but really pleased i did. The long thin spout means I can successfully maneuver across the entire surface of the soil, even with the cable ties i've placed every where, the entire pot gets evenly soaked, and there is no run off as the sprinkler takes all the force out. Another one for the "should have bought it a year ago" pile
 

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ace720

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What's up guys, I'm still here yeeee lol
just fucking around how is everyone though?
Im ok, plants still doing good. It's crazy though
because my GRANDOGGY PURP(GRANDADDY PURP X
CHEMDAWG) really stinks, but not a good stinky.
Damn thing smell like throw up= very repulsive,disgusting :spew:
Does any one know about the CHEMDAWG ?
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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ace720 said:
What's up guys, I'm still here yeeee lol
just fucking around how is everyone though?
Im ok, plants still doing good. It's crazy though
because my GRANDOGGY PURP(GRANDADDY PURP X
CHEMDAWG) really stinks, but not a good stinky.
Damn thing smell like throw up= very repulsive,disgusting :spew:
Does any one know about the CHEMDAWG ?
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Evening ace, glad to hear you are still growing....seen you pop your head in from time to time, but not heard much on your ladies. Never heard of either of those strains, but then again there are plenty that I haven't heard of :) I've just finished growing Aurora INdica which was described by one as "a cross between rotting flesh, and a meadow full of flowers", and I have been banned form smoking it in the house when my wife is home (who is usually very tolerant as she has no sense of smell).

Where do you get your seeds from?
 
Hettyman

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Funnily enough, I just did a search for Pineapple express g13, and that's the site I found. Like the pic and mix idea. I'm not gonna be growing again for a few months after this one, but when I do, I'm gonna order a few single seeds of 4 strains, and then clone and go back to perpetual from there.

Thinking Pineapple express, Buddha's Sister, Purple Haze, and Maybe some Strawberry Cough again....nice
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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Attitude is where it's at. I'm pretty sure there is a coupon on RIU for 5 or 10 % off floating around.. I always forget that when I make my orders.
 
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