2nd grow 1000w tangerine dream, tga,dna,g-13 seeds too!

watch out for hermies! no idea what stage your in btw just saying

haha not flowerin yet lol,
and hopefully no hermies they are going to be pampered plants!!!
i dont mind that they are gunna be small as long as they are dank lol

Feel that.. im doing 4 in a 2x2x5 so they are probably also going to be on the smaller side

by like day 50 of flower im hoping for like a closet just full of nugs... like in How High

like, 2 foot long colas baby, 8 fat ones!

haha exactly what im lookin for is a little short see of cola's haha, my roomate is so neive... for my 12 plants he was like ya i bet u get a qp......wanted to smack him
he is a follower of bigger is better school, i was too until i vegged 6 weeks for huge plants and pulled less than 6 oz's.
now i just want that dank !!! i hate paying for my medicine !!! =P

mcgyversmoke said:

haha exactly what im lookin for is a little short see of cola's haha, my roomate is so neive... for my 12 plants he was like ya i bet u get a qp......wanted to smack him
he is a follower of bigger is better school, i was too until i vegged 6 weeks for huge plants and pulled less than 6 oz's.
now i just want that dank !!! i hate paying for my medicine !!! =P

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me and you are a lot of the same

I don't get what you mean by you were pissed off? 12 plants is at least like a hp.. or 3/4 lb.. if not wayyy more... what did you veg for 6 weeks and pull less than a half?

I did small before, to learn.. which was a great call. I previously did 2 bagseeds, under 252w CFL for flower.. had quite a few problems... pH issues, some crazy bugs, lack of light.. lack of ventilation..

Now I have that allll covered So we should be seeing some very good tangerine dream on this end for sure! As long as they don't hermie *knock on wood*.. I pulled like 38-45 g's off each plant.. not bad at all for 250w CFL in a smalllll box.

Now I have all this overhead space, and ventilation, and knowledge of all nutrients in relation to pH.. and capital

I figure at .5g/w I'm looking for at least a qp.. I'm hoping for some big plants in these 3.5 gals.. like 3 footers at least.. so we could get as much as a h/p? Gotta have goals



pictured bagseed CFL grown herb... pretty good right?


I want to see what kind of resin this hortilux super HPS packs on

definately gotta have goals my goal is 10 plus dried

and i guess you would have to know my roommate ( no offense ment by the next comment and i have no problems with race this is the only way to describe him) a jew plain and simple.
all he thinks about is how he can make money, he doesnt grow as a hobby like we do its all money for him, and only his way of looking at stuff is right.
i basically did his whole veg for him and his plants would look no where near as good if it wasnt for me. yet he thinks he can talk shit on my stuff.... s'all good tho i took the biggest plant in his room for me. looks like a 3 zip plant of some super fire norcal only strain.

and the ones i had last time are still in my sig but it was White widow ( horrible plant look at the journal and u can see) didnt even bother weighing or really trimming just made BHO out of it cuz i didnt wanna smoke it. had 2 bubba kush's both only copped about and oz each even tho they were almost 5 ft tall. then a cheese plant which was super dank but very stringy spindly plant less than an oz of it. then a gt (norcal only strain) a lil less than an oz. lemon kush was a lil over an oz and blue lights only had half oz.
not a good harvest but it was all dank.

that looks like some mighty tasty bud there! cfl bud in my opinion is actually usually alot more potent, the only cfl grown bud i had was amazing so i have no probs with CFL's.
actually since the T5 i was using is my roomies. next grow im just gunna fix a bunch of y sockets to a board and put a mix of spectrum cfls for veg. next time

i could def see you getting a half p if you got more of your cfl bagseed in a box then i did with a 1000w and giant plants.
i have faith in you.....
o and ya we are very much alike i also like to spend alot of my money on glass pieces, something about glass just calls to me haha.

mcgyversmoke said:

definately gotta have goals my goal is 10 plus dried

and i guess you would have to know my roommate ( no offense ment by the next comment and i have no problems with race this is the only way to describe him) a jew plain and simple.
all he thinks about is how he can make money, he doesnt grow as a hobby like we do its all money for him, and only his way of looking at stuff is right.
i basically did his whole veg for him and his plants would look no where near as good if it wasnt for me. yet he thinks he can talk shit on my stuff.... s'all good tho i took the biggest plant in his room for me. looks like a 3 zip plant of some super fire norcal only strain.

and the ones i had last time are still in my sig but it was White widow ( horrible plant look at the journal and u can see) didnt even bother weighing or really trimming just made BHO out of it cuz i didnt wanna smoke it. had 2 bubba kush's both only copped about and oz each even tho they were almost 5 ft tall. then a cheese plant which was super dank but very stringy spindly plant less than an oz of it. then a gt (norcal only strain) a lil less than an oz. lemon kush was a lil over an oz and blue lights only had half oz.
not a good harvest but it was all dank.

that looks like some mighty tasty bud there! cfl bud in my opinion is actually usually alot more potent, the only cfl grown bud i had was amazing so i have no probs with CFL's.
actually since the T5 i was using is my roomies. next grow im just gunna fix a bunch of y sockets to a board and put a mix of spectrum cfls for veg. next time

i could def see you getting a half p if you got more of your cfl bagseed in a box then i did with a 1000w and giant plants.
i have faith in you.....
o and ya we are very much alike i also like to spend alot of my money on glass pieces, something about glass just calls to me haha.

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I was cracking up at the jew thing


Yeah i could see how that would happen. & the people who don't grow it, don't get it.. they think they do but they don't... thats why I keep to myself, and thats why RIU is so awesome

Yeah it was okay bud but it hermied! I didn't even notice til like 50 days in! I was like shittttt... Still not really sure how it happened, but it was still on par with the sensi bud around here! If not better than.

the hps i got is like 32,000 lumens


Interesting you mention my glass by the way I'm actually taking jack herer bubble hash rips out of it right now with my herb iron

I'm really excited about the HPS though, and the MH as it penetrates! That's something CFLS don't do! So growth was focused on what was in the light. I'm going to love having really nice growth 6 inches into the canopy! Also, just that resin ahhhhh





Anyway, day 5 tomorrow.. the phenotypes are pretty prominent already! check these out:

Indica pheno


Wayyy sativa pheno! look at that!


The most healthy vibrant, looks very hybrid but sativa dom. This guy germed less than 24 hours, he's labeled #1.



old shit setup


day 75 of this guy

damn that looks amazing man looks better than my huge plants haha..... but i was unaware of topping and LST that grow from now on should be much nicer.

as for the resin content i think LED comes in number one for resin production. had some LED blueberry and was some of the best ive ever had, and even after cure just so sticky to the touch.
then HPS then CFL so you will see some very nice resin heads. i gotta say my last grow was from clone and 2 of them had some hermies but one was just because i left it on the plant too long.

haha ya he totally is lol, i feel kinda bad but i mean i say it to his face and he doesnt get offended he just laughs and says " ya well what are ya gunna do haha"
ya they definately do not know like we do, the enlightened ones.... also think that has something to do with all the psychadelics i dabble in. gotta love that mind expansion...
being able to sit outside stare at the stars and not just hink about how small we are. but understand that we are but a drop of water in the vast ocean of the universe, just trying to cling to the humanity we think we have because we think we are special, but really we are just a cosmic fluke, and whos to say how many other flukes there are out there.

yea im not sure what it is about glass i think its because im also a very artistic person so i look at it as an art form and a way of self expression. i really wanna find out how to get one of fdd's pieces they look awesome and i just love that bowl piece with the smiling sun i think it was. looks awesome!

your little babies are looking great i cant believe yours popped in 24 hrs mine took almost 5 days haha. gotta love those sativa pheno's they take to LST so much better than indica doms ( sadly what i have most of) i only have 2 sativa doms the c-13 which is supposed to be like 90/10 or 80/20 taking amazing to lst already the nodes are shooting for the light, same with the one TD sativa pheno already sprouting node growth hardcore and i just tied them down earlier lol.

and i gotta say i envy you soooo much right now had to take a week break from smoking to let my lungs recover since i been smoking probably about 2-3g's a day everyday for the past like year since like august. so needed a break when i started coughin up brown shit. and all i can think about is burning lol. and being on this forum and working with the babies isnt helping that at all.

LOL my throat has been hurting since last friday

i came to this party with an eighth of jack herer/mr nice guy, smoked it all.. like a fat blunt and like 10-12 joints... aired out & got woken up by the sherrif in the morning he said he could smell the 'dope' before he walked through the door.. that place was hazy about 5 hours before he showed up.. could barely see across the room

still smoking the hash though

lucky guy ya i think i need to just cut down limit to like a g a day and i will be good, also way too expensive of a hobby haha.
wish i had some hash man, just need my night time bowl, think i might try and get a nail hit of oil off my roomie lol.

Some of the first hash in a while to come around here... 65 an eighth for jack herer bubble


anyway just watered the tangerines with plain pH balanced water.. balanced to 6.3... going to move up to 6.4-6.5 within the next week or two here though.. 6.3 borderlines on too low

They are working on their second set of [true] leaves now... still not terribly strong plants, but they are getting there

wow!! Verde, PH is realy that high for soil I keep mine right at 6 or 5.8 in the hydroanything higher than 6.2 the girls show droopy leaves right away and start to deform but anyway here are some pics from today sorry bout the lines the new HPS messes with the EVO cam
when i was doing guerilla grows i kept the soil PH at 6.2 sometimes as low as 5.5 because it would raise in 12 hours back to 6 you should research the chem of your nutes and check the water drainage PH just a thought for ya anyway as you guys can see the TD is showing very sativa dominant leaves and is very responsive to lst she was just leaned over yesterday morning and was upright by afternoon. The steroid monster which is getting hard to get pics of has officially shown flowering pistil around the top internode are definitely growing about 1" long today as to the barely an 1/8" throughout the veg phase,and finally got a decent picture of the UB 4 top BBG she is kinda doing her own LST now getting around her sister.Well i am definitely sold on the hydro at the moment i am going to have to do a taste comparison to see if soil or hydro has the better tasting smoke,just cant argue with the ease and results of the hydro system i think i just might do an old aztec guerilla hydro as an experiment with some TD clones well hope you all have great day chat at ya later enjoy the pics will plan on sat for weekly review pics Mac hope to have new Diamond diffusion foil and the clone machine on friday Later All

Looking good, which ones are tangerine dream? Labels in the pics would be sweet

I'm really really stoned, but it looks like your running hydro.

Hydro and soil have different ph's... from what I recall hydro's best pH for cannabis is like 5.8 or up to 6 or something... Soil is like 6.3-6.8 or up to 7... really some strains can really enjoy slightly higher, or slightly lower than normal pH's.


If you looked at the scale I posted... more seedling/veg nutrients are available at the lower end of the scale... when you move up to like 6.6-6.8 you notice that more flowering nutrients become available.. I'm pretty sure this is the reasoning for changing your pH and increasing it with the plants current stage... I'm receiving a little help from a friend here and there, he recommended I pH at 6.3 for seedling, go up to 6.5 for veg, and after about 5 weeks flower do 6.8.. hes doing soil too and his buds look great so I'm taking his advice, with that reasoning..

sounds good Verde i would follow his advice to if it has results like i said i am still learning the indoor trade to lol i did have Labels on the plants but they kinda got covered over with foilage the 2 smallest are the TD first 2 pics

You can check out my whole op and timeline just use the link in my signature i try to keep it updated pretty current

This is what he did with super lemon haze! (goldenganja13)



He actually helped me a lot with my first grow, now with real lights and ventilation I'm ready to see if I can get something similar



Good looking plants by the way.. stout and green


So far I'm loving all the tangerine dream leaves... they are sharp and pointy, yet smooth and tropical looking

With all the phenotypes I've got I'm interested to see what happens with them... so far I don't think i've found anyone else with as many going most people i'm following have one or two or three

Sr. Verde said:

This is what he did with super lemon haze! (goldenganja13)

He actually helped me a lot with my first grow, now with real lights and ventilation I'm ready to see if I can get something similar



Good looking plants by the way.. stout and green


So far I'm loving all the tangerine dream leaves... they are sharp and pointy, yet smooth and tropical looking

With all the phenotypes I've got I'm interested to see what happens with them... so far I don't think i've found anyone else with as many going most people i'm following have one or two or three

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man that super lemon haze by your friend is very impressive! Im sure youre gonna produce some dank mann

it should get realll interesting in a few months.. everyone should be harvesting within a month of eachother

Yeah this is way more exciting than guerilla grows and the harvesting is gonna be very interesting ill agree i will have to modify my grow room some for the next run as my natural grow BBG is taking up 2.25cf of space and just starting to flower. i hope she doesnt spread out to much more and stretches upward. i really didnt plan out the spacing issue very well but this being my first indoor grow it will be better next time lol

mcgyversmoke said:

FFUUUUUCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!
on two of the plants i 4 topped and tied down i guess i tied them too far down and broke them where the stem meets the branch.
so i un tied them and tied them so they are standing back normal hopefully they will heal themselves it was only on 3 tops, but def a mistake i wont make again i dont know how i didnt catch it before....
o well all i can do is smoke a blunt and hope for the best!

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ya definately i lst'd today and watered last night but the soil dried out fast i think that may be due to the aero pots.
they are being held together tied the two tops together in the middle so they stand up.
i will def have to be more careful with those 2 then very glad it happened to my bagseeds not one of the strains i want lol, supposed to be a good strain... only 1 other person grows it besides me. and he grows outdoor.... like a 1000 plants in humboldt and this is apparently theonly strain he will grow

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Dont sweat it dude, just a little slow down for a few days. 2 weeks ago I split the stem down the middle on a tangerine dream that I was tying down after topping it 2 weeks prior. It was stunted for a few days but now the center is wide open for light....bonus. But it also takes up a lot more space....bogus lol

When bad $hit like that happens I back off my nutes to quarter strength and add B1 for anti-stress. As they respond I increase food- seems to work.
If you have these accidents in flower or any real stress you can cut your yield in half. No joke. The pots you have will wick moisture from inside the pot- out. You will have to add moisture more often to maintain proper growing conditions below the soil.

My tangerine dreams are 8 days in flower today. Stretching like crazy except for one of them, she's filling out more.

I think your well on your way to an impressive harvest. Keep it up!!