2x2x5 Grow Lab - Reserva Privada Headband ... [ 100w T5 veg / 250w HPS flower ]

Sr. Verde

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• Dec 26, 2011

• #181

Gastanker said:

Damn, a bit late jumping into this journal. Great looking plants! Love headband and love DNA/RP so this has got to be great. Subbed for sure.

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Not late at all... Just in time for flower, and the HID being dropped in ...


I'm so tired of the floro now! I know those girls are craving the canopy-penetrating power of the HPS.

Least I could add about 40w with the hanging CFLs.. I'm hoping that gives them some extra energy and keeps them perky.

 

jdro

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• Dec 26, 2011

• #182

Pulling up a chair

 

thegersman

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• Dec 27, 2011

• #183

keepin' updated

 

Sr. Verde

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• Dec 28, 2011

• #184

first day of 12/12 starting today ( december 28 )

 

C.Indica

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• Dec 28, 2011

• #185

HID is up?

 

Joos Springsteen

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• Dec 28, 2011

• #186

Finally pulled out the real light! Nice!

 

Sr. Verde

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• Dec 28, 2011

• #187

Probably going to drop in the HID on friday.. give it 2 days of 12/12 with the 100w 6500k floro and the 84w 2700k

Then watch it go boom

 

Sr. Verde

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• Dec 28, 2011

• #188

Flower day 1...

Changed my mind - going to drop in the HPS first.


Early morning photos...

 

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Sr. Verde

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #189

Hey all...

Technically the 30th right now... so the girls will start day 3 shortly...

Here are some photos from day 1 flower, after I dropped the HPS in at night.. I haven't gotten a chance to post these until now...

photos were taken after a good watering and a nice training session

down... girls .. (i hope they will grow out enough in flower.. i'm kind of sure they will though )

plant view

#1 - if you didn't notice, I turned it around, so both plants are growing meristems in different directions, hoping to utilize space and colas towards the end)

#2 - this is a noticeable larger plant.. I wonder how the quality of medication will differ plant to plant... considering the size difference... I wouldn't be surprised if the small one was the strongest though..

They are realllllly enjoying the extra lumens!! moving from something like 10,000 lumens - to 32,000... they are noticeably perky.... I think I will pick up an additional t5 and squeeze 8 bulbs in there to make for a faster veg next time .

 

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C.Indica

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #190

I've noticed that when the T5's are superclose, you getSlow, Dense,Deformed growth, sort of like ytour curly LST pictures.
And when it's further away, you get more symmetrical, evenly spaced, beautiful (near perfect) growth, as well as faster.

Still workingon specifics.. IT's different for every situation andevery strain.

My seedlings remind me of your two phenos already, I hope I have headband.
If not, then they're trainwreck.
But theyliterally remind me of your twoplants. it'spretty funny.


Mine had the same curly stress issue atday 18/19 ish.
I thinkit was too close to the lights.

Also check this out;
Soil seedling is faster, moredeficient
Peat/Cocoseedling is slower, prettier.
I blamethe air in soil.

 

Sr. Verde

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #191

C.Indica said:

I've noticed that when the T5's are superclose, you getSlow, Dense,Deformed growth, sort of like ytour curly LST pictures.
And when it's further away, you get more symmetrical, evenly spaced, beautiful (near perfect) growth, as well as faster.

Still workingon specifics.. IT's different for every situation andevery strain.

My seedlings remind me of your two phenos already, I hope I have headband.
If not, then they're trainwreck.
But theyliterally remind me of your twoplants. it'spretty funny.

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They are pretty close in hybrid ratios i think.. so it would make sense that the structure and leaves would be the same


mine smell more like disel than any kush..... the smaller, more compact plant (#1) smells like diesel with sweet, somewhat sugary overtones..

They just smell like jungle weed pretty much



and the floro is doing great with the growth... it's just slow because i don't think I have enough lumens for as big as I was taking those plants.. and I was too lazy to go out and get more lights rather than wait an extra few weeks.. next time I will have more light in there for veg, last time I used a 250w MH this is the least amount of light I've vegged with so far. Even with my first CFL grow I vegged with 150-200w. I thought I could get away with it but I couldn't ..


any tears you see in the plants are from me accidentally ripping the leaves.. any bends are from my fingers . these are flawless plants... really great genetics so far.

 

Sr. Verde

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #192

I have to PUMP up the nutes! Thoughts? These things are still lime green at the tops.. Not dark green at all..

(photo from day 1)
I feel like the leaves could be far darker, I could feed them a lot more... but how much? First time using (mostly) organic nutrients..

Anyone have experience with FOX FARMS nutrients? I have Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, and Big Bloom.

I was using like 20mL grow big / gal... that wasn't enough, still not darkening them but they responded great... I'm tempted to go 25mL or 30mL.. I'm going to start out with both the Big Bloom and the Grow Big.... Feeding the Grow Big 30mL while feeding the Big Bloom in regular, full strength... Then I will most likely begin to wean off the Grow Big and replace it with Tiger Bloom as the stretch slows down and as bloom sets in... Until then though I really think they need N.

 

C.Indica

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #193

Bro chill out and look at abush.
New growth is lime, oldgrowth is dark green.
It's not like thgwe lime leaves are developing into lime large leaves.
They fill in yes?

If you're really worried, look up micronute deficiencies and check.

 

Sr. Verde

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #194

They fill in greener when I feed otherwise no the leaves stay yellowish

But never totally turn dark green... I'm wondering how high I can run these FF nutes without burning... it seems like 25mL/gal adds a light green but it seems like these girls need more.

only the very lowest leaves are dark green

 

upthearsenal

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #195

N def starts from the bottom/with the older leafs first.

Your plants look great bro, no need to feed heavy again, you'd be on your way to a toxicity.

Although, I would hit them with some N during/after the stretch....

And yeah, I have experience with FF nutes, I started with them way back when. I'd replace that Tiger Bloom for something organic (that is if you want to be straight organic).

Either way, they look really nice man!

 

C.Indica

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #196

What would be a good Biology-Friendly Veg fert to usewith FFBBloom?

 

upthearsenal

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #197

A biofriendly veg fert? There's quite a few, you could go with straight fish emulsion, or go with something more brand name like Earthjuice, Biocanna (what I use), General Organics, etc...

 

C.Indica

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #198

I think I'm gonna roll with GH's "BioThrive Grow" for veg.

I have Subcuture-M to get the dirt life started,
but should I get that Kangaroots Drench crap to feed it more? or just let it roll with the FFBBloom ?

Also Im thinking \about a Biologyfriendly Cal/Mg just to besafe.
Is the General Organics CaMg+ suitible for beneficials and mycos?

 

Sr. Verde

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #199

upthearsenal said:

N def starts from the bottom/with the older leafs first.

Your plants look great bro, no need to feed heavy again, you'd be on your way to a toxicity.

Although, I would hit them with some N during/after the stretch....

And yeah, I have experience with FF nutes, I started with them way back when. I'd replace that Tiger Bloom for something organic (that is if you want to be straight organic).

Either way, they look really nice man!

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Thanks for bringing me back

Your right a serious N deficiency does start with the lower older leaves yellowing first. So I don't think it's a deficiency, but more of a, 'could-use-more' situation...

Though these plants haven't ever shown any signs of nute burn, even at the tips... and even with back to back feedings.... Which just makes me think I'm in the safe zone, but I could pump it up a little more. I don't intend to burn, I just intend to find out what these plants can take... Without seriously over feeding of course.

I'm now wondering if the yellowed tops are from the cold/warm change... it can get nippy at night... In the 60's.. and it can get up to 80F during the day (but that's it).

Either way, the foliage color could still be a little darker in my books... I know what sickly green plants that got too much N look like, and I'm not going for that... just DARK green instead of LIGHT green.

Guess I'm going for 30mL / Gal Grow Big next feed and we will see how that works. I just watered plain water + Cal Mag 3 days ago so the soil will be dry in a day or two.




& I was under the impression that FF was somewhat organic? is Tiger bloom a main offender? ..... learning branding and ingredients is a process in itself


I'd like to migrate to fully organic eventually, but I'm taking it one step at a time. I already paid for the FF line so Ill just keep running that for now I think Start using tiger bloom when needed and all that.. Thanks for the advice and the tips man I appreciate it!


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Ge7Som3

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• Dec 30, 2011

• #200

Looks great!!