4000W Grow Room Set-up
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Old in the Way
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Updates and pics are coming......honest.
Some of those "semi-major" changes I had scheduled for after the new year are in process (mainly adding the 4th light and bumping it up to 60 watts per foot in flower) as well as my normal workload (which is pretty much full time). Not to mention just getting back from vacation last Tuesday.......too much trimming and manicuring....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........
No Co2 in use but it it being considered......rails and other details i will get to asap......
Some of those "semi-major" changes I had scheduled for after the new year are in process (mainly adding the 4th light and bumping it up to 60 watts per foot in flower) as well as my normal workload (which is pretty much full time). Not to mention just getting back from vacation last Tuesday.......too much trimming and manicuring....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........
No Co2 in use but it it being considered......rails and other details i will get to asap......
i like ur setup... its making me rethink drip irrigation along with aeroponics... though im currently going hempy.
some of your numbers seem a little 'hopefull'. ie; getting more than 1 1/2 - 2lbs. per 4'by6' tray every 15 days... but good luck... it has been shown time and again that one of the best ways to increase yeild is to increase your plant numbers in the same area... and you have that covered... so please do me a favor...
your system has been changing a bit as you've come along, could you please simplify your setup at this point... ie; take clones in ez-cloner... 7 days later they go under a veg. light 18/6 for 7 more days, then into trayA hydroton 12/12.. 30 days later tray b 12/12...
are you running the same setup x2, meaning you have a clone party for tray a to b THEN 15 days later a clone party for trays c to d... THEN another 15 days and ur taking clones for trays a to b again?
are you using any other lighting, or just the (4) 1000w hps? thanks for clarifying... personally i don't want to run that many plants... but if were both going to run 4000w and you are going to yeild twice as much.... i would consider it.
(EDIT) ...so if you are harvesting every 15 days... does that mean that you have 4 flowering areas... and no veg. area... that you pretty much just go right from clone to flower aside from the 7 days or so under a separate light?
some of your numbers seem a little 'hopefull'. ie; getting more than 1 1/2 - 2lbs. per 4'by6' tray every 15 days... but good luck... it has been shown time and again that one of the best ways to increase yeild is to increase your plant numbers in the same area... and you have that covered... so please do me a favor...
your system has been changing a bit as you've come along, could you please simplify your setup at this point... ie; take clones in ez-cloner... 7 days later they go under a veg. light 18/6 for 7 more days, then into trayA hydroton 12/12.. 30 days later tray b 12/12...
are you running the same setup x2, meaning you have a clone party for tray a to b THEN 15 days later a clone party for trays c to d... THEN another 15 days and ur taking clones for trays a to b again?
are you using any other lighting, or just the (4) 1000w hps? thanks for clarifying... personally i don't want to run that many plants... but if were both going to run 4000w and you are going to yeild twice as much.... i would consider it.
(EDIT) ...so if you are harvesting every 15 days... does that mean that you have 4 flowering areas... and no veg. area... that you pretty much just go right from clone to flower aside from the 7 days or so under a separate light?
DevilDogg3103
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Your plants and set-up is amazing.!
h3lpm3gr0w
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wowzer.......you gave me an excuse to get high.
Old in the Way
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I am not familiar with the Hempy systems but if I had to do it again I would get bigger resevoirs and flood my tables instead of drip.
I decided to keep the 8x4 trays, but I am eliminating one tray altogether......
I am reconfiguring things at the moment and hanging 2-1kw HPS over each tray....
So now the system works like this.......
1.Cut enough clones for a full batch every 14 days (every other Wednesday to be exact)--I actually root cuttings in Rapid Rooters.......14(+,) days later move to EZ Cloner for veg time (I use the EZ clone as an aeroponics set-up to veg in not for the actual cloning)
2. 14 day Veg Time in EZ Clone--I was using the T5 light for this now I veg 24/7 under the 1kw MH in mum room (I made room on the mum tray and the EZ Clone sits right on the tray)--I now do 14-16 days veg time to add some height and let the stems thicken up. (trying to get to an ounce per plant as Al B Fuct claims is possible)
3. Move to flower (12/12) after 14 days veg......the 2 8x4 trays are used like 4-4x4 trays. I will be filling half the 8x4 tray every 14-16 days.
So.....Area 1 (half of the 8x4 tray) for--day 1-15, Area 2--day 16-30, Area 3--day 31-45, Area 4--day 46-harvest.
The 3rd tray and res now will be used for flushing for the final 4-7 days
In regards to increasing plant count to increase yield.....I have to disagree.....yield is based on wattage per foot of canopy......many growers can yield the same from one plant under 1kw as they can 64 plants under 1kw the only difference is veg time.....SoG should be a bit more productive due to the concentration of colas per square foot.
Al B claimed to yield almost 2 lbs every 2 weeks and was only harvesing a 3x3 tray under half of a 1kw light. His claims indicate that with perfect temps, humidity and light his yield was increased from 1g per watt to as much as 1.6-1.8 grams per watt.....he has 66 watts per foot over his trays hence my decision to increase concentration of light to 60 watts per foot.....I always assume that i can do whatever someone else does as well if not better.......some may consider this arrogant, I call it confidence......
My first full 1kw harvest was just completed over the holiday and totaled just under 400 grams dry weight......that worked out to be .39 grams per watt......not awful for my first hydro and cannabis grow....it was also grown at 40 watts per foot......next crop looks similar but the 2 behind it look much much better......alot less learning curve, no nute deficiency, healthier looking root systems, larger cuttings at the start of the cycles, temps and humidity are kept stable and perfect every day and light is up 50% to 61 watts per foot.....keeping my fingers crossed.
The only other lighting is in veg, so 4kw HPS is all in flower
(EDIT) ...so if you are harvesting every 15 days... does that mean that you have 4 flowering areas... and no veg. area... that you pretty much just go right from clone to flower aside from the 7 days or so under a separate light?[/QUOTE]
Thats pretty much it......
Hope that clarified things for you
thanks
ty, me too
yes, yes, crystal clear now, thank you... i've saved the page off line for reference with the many other usefull threads i've found on RIU...
last (probably no brainer) question... you said area A is days 1-15... area B is days 16 - 30... etc.
you don't actually move the plants right? i mean, they finish flower start to finish in the same tray you originally put them in right?
i guess ebb and flow? or Flood and Drain would maybe be easier than all of the tubing and stakes and drippers... all that costs a pretty penny to begin with as well.
last (probably no brainer) question... you said area A is days 1-15... area B is days 16 - 30... etc.
you don't actually move the plants right? i mean, they finish flower start to finish in the same tray you originally put them in right?
i guess ebb and flow? or Flood and Drain would maybe be easier than all of the tubing and stakes and drippers... all that costs a pretty penny to begin with as well.
Old in the Way
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You got it they stay in their spots till harvest.....sometimes I move them to clean, rotate light placement, different sized plants, etc
No benefit--kind of alot of extra work with drip, "fiddly" is the word for it--thats why I will eventually go to flood drain and in hindsight should have done that from the start.....I have 70 gallon resevoirs and need 115 gallons to flood the 8x4 tables
grodrowithme
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nice thread glad i found it im starting one just like yours except a little smaller very nice though