45 days for ALL dispensaries in CA to close

spandy

Well-Known Member
I think alot of you have no idea what a non profit is. All a non-profit means is at the end of the year there can't be anything left over, you have to either distribute all left over earnings in the form of salaries, bonues, etc. So no shit they are making 50k+ a year some of them, you guys smoke weed like no one's business.

South Park season 8 episode 9, this is why the right should just kill the left.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I think alot of you have no idea what a non profit is. All a non-profit means is at the end of the year there can't be anything left over, you have to either distribute all left over earnings in the form of salaries, bonues, etc. So no shit they are making 50k+ a year some of them, you guys smoke weed like no one's business.
I used to work at the second largest disp in the county. Now I work at the largest. The 2nd largest smoked any profits they could, right out of the sales jars, they called it their health benefits. The CEO would hit me up for an ounce or two of our finest indoor, almost every day. And then anything left over was given to the city as a bribe. CEOs and CFOs of non-profits still make money, its called a salary. Non profit just means you get to soak up any leftovers, or hand them over to whoever is allowing you to be open (the city and the police dept).


When Organicann, BPG, and Harborside Oakland shut down, thats when I'll say its over.
 

smokeyj420

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IMO the people that want to see mj stay illegal so they can make money dealing are just as all the feds and big corporations that want it illegal so they can make money. I know some dealers that will give you a little extra or drop the price for you if you have medical issues. Everyone has to stop worrying about the money as much and start helping each other. Our highest priority should be trying to make this great plant legal so that the people that need it can freely get it without fear of being put in prison. All you dealer that want it illegal answer this one question, If someone is dying of cancer should they really have to be even more stressed out and scared at the fact that the best medicine that could be the cure is illegal and they could suffer and die in prison just for getting caught using this great medicine?

Our entire world is so fucked up right now, sense when is money more important than the lives of billions of people across the world?
 

ChronicObsession

Well-Known Member
I agree with you, although the government doesn't make taxes (money the legal way) from MMJ, they have made a business out of prosecuting people back into their Mom's vagina and out of existance, practically
I guess my 3 1000w garden will be tripling its value over night if the clubs shut down.......Sucks for all the sick people who cant afford those prices..... Its almost like the feds hate sick people and they also seem to hate collecting taxes on it eather..... They rather sick people die and drug dealers profit all while not getting any tax money from it??? I dont see how this benefits them i guess i just dont get.....
 

FootClan

Well-Known Member
I used to work at the second largest disp in the county. Now I work at the largest. The 2nd largest smoked any profits they could, right out of the sales jars, they called it their health benefits. The CEO would hit me up for an ounce or two of our finest indoor, almost every day. And then anything left over was given to the city as a bribe. CEOs and CFOs of non-profits still make money, its called a salary. Non profit just means you get to soak up any leftovers, or hand them over to whoever is allowing you to be open (the city and the police dept).


When Organicann, BPG, and Harborside Oakland shut down, thats when I'll say its over.
so you work at harborside then?? how much is starting pay for budtenders?? Im in vallejo and they pay us shit.......
 

FootClan

Well-Known Member
IMO the people that want to see mj stay illegal so they can make money dealing are just as all the feds and big corporations that want it illegal so they can make money. I know some dealers that will give you a little extra or drop the price for you if you have medical issues. Everyone has to stop worrying about the money as much and start helping each other. Our highest priority should be trying to make this great plant legal so that the people that need it can freely get it without fear of being put in prison. All you dealer that want it illegal answer this one question, If someone is dying of cancer should they really have to be even more stressed out and scared at the fact that the best medicine that could be the cure is illegal and they could suffer and die in prison just for getting caught using this great medicine?

Our entire world is so fucked up right now, sense when is money more important than the lives of billions of people across the world?
well i cant even get health insurance and since i dont have 5 kids i dont qualify for free medicare so i have to "deal" to pay my bills so ya its hard to think about giving away my profit when i havent been to the dentist in 5 years because i cant afford a 1000 dollar vist.... and the gonverment dosent care and sick cancer patients arent lining up to help me pay my bills....... What are people suppose to do?? seems you think its as simple as Get rid of "dealers" but there will always be dealers and if i can make a little money to keep me from being homless im going to do what i have to do and it curtinly dosent intel giving away my crop to sick people just because they cant afford it..... And if it was legal poor people would still be fucked...I mean theres lots of medicine thats legal and it costs WAY more then cannibas to get...... So just saying it needs to be legal dosnt solve the problem.

If it was legal then corperations would run it and you think they are going to just give it away to sick people?? lol really??
 

silasraven

Well-Known Member
I know I am not going to get any support from you on this, yet. We haven't fully explored my argument and you haven't shed your ego and taken an objective look at Prop 215.

You make a good point

I think that you just don't quite grasp the concept of Prop 215, it takes a thorough separation from ego to look at it objectively. I struggled with just saying "fuck it" and profiteering too.

A Californian should be able to walk into a facility and get ample meds, with a surplus, at an affordable price, we're talkin' sub $1,000.00 pounds, not $8,970.00 pounds that you have to trek back and forth 128 times to get cuz "that's how it works."

It's a simple task to accomplish. Rent a warehouse. Notify all levels of government of the facility. Get in writing from all levels of government that the collective will not be interfered with. Then open up shop. In an inexpensive warehouse, it is very inexpensive to collectively grow medical marijuana and simply share in the cost of the facility instead of cow-towing to prima donna fascists who put greed before community. If the feds and state and county and city don't acknowledge with an affirmative reply, take them to court before opening up. ...why put them in the position to prosecute instead, that's dumb.

I am all for making a buck. However, we need a commercial and recreational law to accomplish that.

It's not magic. Once we get true non-profit collectives and co-ops going, the community will be more accepting of the Commercial and Recreational Use Act of 2012.

So, your work lies in getting a commercial and recreational law elected, signed, and enforced. And if you want, while you are busy doing that, you can stop by the collective and show the seriously ill how to get relief through growing medicinal marijuana.

Many have lost the true meaning of Prop 215 in their puddle of greed. So weak, so pathetic, so counter-productive.

Medical Marijuana moves forward, profiteering is taking a few steps back. Don't delay in asserting your voice to create rights to recreate and profiteer. Marginalizing the seriously ill is about to come to abrupt end here in California.

...profiteering under Prop 215 is seriously fucked, nearly all seriously ill people are financially wrecked. And, the net effect of profiteering is: The people who the law was written for do not get to benefit from it. Some of uz need to spanked You need a nudge. You're almost there homey, I can feel it. ...you get it but just don't know how to do it without being ostracized from the community. ...corrrect? You know you want to see the seriously ill happy and content while a recreational, commercial law finally gets passed because the people saw marijuana could be consumed responsibly and with purpose!
well you might just want to go under ground for this next part. love the idea totally support that. the money is involved the bigger of an issue it is in the long run.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
so you work at harborside then?? how much is starting pay for budtenders?? Im in vallejo and they pay us shit.......
lol for starters I'm special guest teacher. I don't know what you pee ons make :mrgreen:

And secondly, you assumed I'm in Alameda Co which I'm not. I had a bud tending job years ago and the pay was crap.
 

FootClan

Well-Known Member
lol for starters I'm special guest teacher. I don't know what you pee ons make :mrgreen:

And secondly, you assumed I'm in Alameda Co which I'm not. I had a bud tending job years ago and the pay was crap.

oh thought you ment biggest dispensary not biggest despensary where you live...lol so you dont work at harborside then?? Whats so special about being guest teacher i teach classes at my work too big woop.....haha
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
oh thought you ment biggest dispensary not biggest despensary where you live...lol so you dont work at harborside then?? Whats so special about being guest teacher i teach classes at my work too big woop.....haha
I get paid well, in cash, the rules don't apply to me, and I only work one day a month... that's what is so special. I got other grinds going on 9-5 lol. The best part is I get to medicate my students and give out free samples of my work... then get hired to private consult.
 

Cali chronic

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Did any of you write the IRS? I did... Did any of you write Obamma? I did Did any of you write your Congress? I did. I do every month and I can grow totally legal in Cali but I do it for you!
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Got nothing to do with Obama, regardless of how much of a puppet he is.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/obama-administration-medical-marijuana-crackdown-california_n_1033482.html


WASHINGTON -- U.S. attorneys have a message for California's medical marijuana advocates: Don't blame Barack Obama. After it was announced that the crackdown on medical pot establishments in the Golden State was a collective decision by the four U.S. attorneys in California and not the result of any directive from Washington, spokeswoman Lauren Horwood emphasized that the administration never even green-lighted the ramped-up enforcement actions.

The only D.C.-based official with whom California U.S. attorneys coordinated, Horwood said, was Deputy Attorney General James Cole, who was chosen by Attorney General Eric Holder, an Obama appointee.

"He's the one who provided the quote for our press release, and he's chosen by Eric Holder," Horwood told HuffPost in an interview. "But we didn't have direct talks with Eric Holder -- not that we wouldn't, he's been out and visited -- but just the way the Department of Justice works, he's not that hands-on on these kinds of details."

An article by Phoenix Times reporter Ray Stern claimed Horwood acknowledged that California's U.S. attorneys received "Obama's blessing" in implementing the crackdown. But in an interview with The Huffington Post, Horwood, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner in California's Eastern District, distanced herself from that language.

"What I said, or at least meant to say, was that the U.S. Attorneys in California saw the need for coordinated enforcement actions and spoke with folks in Main Justice in D.C. (not the Obama Administration)," she told HuffPost in an email.

Cole declined to attend any California press conferences on the issue not, Horwood insisted, because he was distancing himself from the crackdown, but because California is a long way to travel.

California voters approved the use of medical marijuana in 1996 with the passage of Prop. 215, later named the Compassionate Use Act, which allows patients to possess and cultivate cannabis with a doctor's permission. The law has been interpreted many times since then. In City of Garden Grove v. Superior Court in 2007, the trial court sided with the patient, finding that it "is not the job of local police to enforce the federal drug law." A California Supreme Court ruling in 2010 found that residents may grow or possess "reasonable amounts" of marijuana with a doctor's permission.


But under federal law there are no such allowances.

Obama as a candidate promised to maintain a hands-off approach toward pot clinics that adhered to state law, with Attorney General Eric Holder publicly asserting that federal prosecutors would not initiate enforcement actions against any patients or providers in compliance with state law, deeming it an inefficient use of scarce government resources.

Such language didn't stop federal prosecutors from launching an attack on medical marijuana shop owners earlier this month, vowing to shutter state-licensed marijuana dispensaries regulated by local governments and threatening landlords with property seizures.

State Senator Mark Leno (D) has joined Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) in requesting meetings with the Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service to discuss the reasons behind the crackdown.

So far their requests have gone unanswered. "They're talking amongst themselves," said Ammiano of federal prosecutors, "and really causing tremendous, unnecessary chilling effects."

Steve DeAngelo of Oakland medical cannabis club Harborside Health Center said such effects may be the end goal.

"Federal prosecutors are not trying to clean up the regulated medical cannabis industry, they are trying to destroy it," he said at a Tuesday press conference in San Francisco. "Their real target is not criminal gangs, but rather the systems of licensing and regulation implemented by dozens of communities state-wide. This is destroying tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of millions of tax dollars in local, state and federal tax revenue."

The crackdown comes even as 50 percent of Americans favor legalizing marijuana, according to a recently released Gallup poll, up from just 36 percent in 2006.

When asked to respond to the claim that the Obama administration isn't implicated in the decision, Ammiano was indignant.

"Somebody's going to have to fall on their sword about this," he said. "This is becoming more of a mainstream issue. I mean, this was really a mistake."
 

redzi

Well-Known Member
If not now, the question becomes when. There is a drug with the useful (so says the pharm. company) parts of Mary Jane...just not fun parts.... sort of like being married... her ass and tits sag but her mouth still runs non stop. Just prepare for it the same way you prepare for a spider mite invasion, clone your favorite girl and hand copies to friends under the understanding that they make an effort to keep the genes alive. Amsterdam is talking about cracking down...so don't assume you will always be able to buy quality seeds. There was a lot of us back in the early 80s that thought things were about to change and then crack happened...along with the "gateway drug" crap.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Matt,
Yeah, whatever! Just like Nixon had nothing to do with Watergate, it was just his own party members? Kind of the not your brothers keeper excuse? I never believed Nixon, I certainly don't believe Obama. Where's Obama with his best friend, the Teleprompter of the United States, stuttering his buttocs off, "I uh uh uh 'bama am horrified the DEA made a mockery of my stance on medical marijuana. I'm ashamed legitimate medicine is being taken away from Californians." By not doing so, he's the same do nothing loser he's known for. Proving he's only the debonair, long legged mack daddy. So yes it's, now, 100% his fault. He has the best stuttering fat loud mouth in the whole country. Whatever he says interrupts even the Super Bowl's winning touch down. Yet he's silent. He's not our friend, atleast not mine. He's the enemy and could care less about what he said before.
 
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