Before my "favorable" talk on here, I was a regular consumer too. I was just nice about things and I got hooked up. Sell out eh? I had a successful grow with their 300w light and wanted to expand. I called up victor asking him to hook me up with a light and in return I would document everything. I thought that was being a smart businessman, I get hooked up a light, they get free advertising on their products so haters like you can do what they do best....TALK. While I am smoking up a storm here. I think it was a smart business decision asking for help and getting hooked up. Im a no bullshit kinda guy and I say how it is. Im just growing with these lights and putting all the bs to rest on LEDs. Actions are louder than words and it is what it is. I am not making anything up, everything is as transparent as can be. I dont understand why you came onto my thread to talk about your bad experience with this company. Im just trying to grow and show everyone what these lights can do. I never bashed anyone on other LED companies, HID etc. I just do my thang and smoke it up. If you did have a bad experience with them, im sorry you could not resolve your situation with them. I am just telling you my experience, so if you don't like it or agree then kick rocks bro.