Xeno420
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Ummmm, I don't know in which sense you're saying it but ok, sure.Almost like a white guy with the name of Xeno ... riiiiiiight.
Ooooohhhhhh!!! I get it now, like calling a black dude CrackerJax (Crackerjacks)...
Ummmm, I don't know in which sense you're saying it but ok, sure.Almost like a white guy with the name of Xeno ... riiiiiiight.
You are right there was a time in history that they were needed. Now a days they killed the car industry and did not help the steel industry. Yes, there are other issues with those industries, but the unions and union workers bleed them dry. Now, a lot of them are out of work.I said that before,,I have lived it, worked at good and bad places, but to say all places will treat there workers with respect is crazy, some will take care of you,,which is where I'm at now,,but other places, really could give 2 cents, for you hard work. My beef is it's alway's the Bigger company's screwing the employees, and if they had there way it would really suck for the majority of US workers. I AM NOT UNION,,but I get why they created. look back in history
I know I been throgh your state,,Beem through many states.You are right there was a time in history that they were needed. Now a days they killed the car industry and did not help the steel industry. Yes, there are other issues with those industries, but the unions and union workers bleed them dry. Now, a lot of them are out of work.
Here's a kicker......
Govt. employees are all unionized.
WHY?????!!!?????
Where's the evil corporation? So the govt. employee doesn't trust the govt?
No govt. worker should be allowed to join a union. It's nonsense.[/QUOTE] What good Employee does not trust the systems?
Sounds like what you are feeling is white guilt.Still sounds like excusing it a bit... excusing america's involvement, not the act of slavery. And, I did read it - just because I don't agree with you, does not make me stupid, or have low reading comprehension ability.
I'm thinking about writing a paper about a serial rapist named Joe Smith.
First, I have to say that rape is horrible.
But...
-Joe ONLY raped 8 women.
-Many serial rapists have each raped many more women than just 8.
-Joe never beat any of them up.
-He even felt some remorse afterward.
-He did not invent rape. It has happened throughout history - all over the world.
Doesn't that sound like I'm excusing Joe, or trying to minimize what he did?
That's how Medved's piece comes off to me.
And, I just don't see the big liberal conspiracy that he's addressing.
Sure, classes learn about slavery in america, but not so much about other parts of the world. Same with a lot of other things. We live in america and our history classes are really focused on american history. I really don't remember any details about my history lessons as a kid, but it seems like I've always understood that slavery has happened throughout history.
The things is: I'm not seeing a conspiracy in his writing either. I don't think he set out to excuse american slavery. I'm sure he really believes that he's correcting some misinformation (I just don't think it's as prevalent as he believes it to be).
His writing just gives the impression of excusing america's involvement, and I think that stems from him being scared to say anything very critical of america and sounding like a bad patriot or america-basher.
Bullshit - I don't feel at all guilty for being white, and am not responsible for slavery.Sounds like what you are feeling is white guilt.
While it may true the northern states, which outlawed slavery, outperformed the southern states economically. Wasn't slavery the driving force behind the economy in the years leading up to this? Is it disingenuous to pretend that slavery played no role in the creation of our wealth??? I don't know enough about this to say for sure...Hopefully, some of the smarter posters can answer this for me?4. ITS NOT TRUE THAT THE U.S. BECAME A WEALTHY NATION THROUGH THE ABUSE OF SLAVE LABOR: THE MOST PROSPEROUS STATES IN THE COUNTRY WERE THOSE THAT FIRST FREED THEIR SLAVES. Pennsylvania passed an emancipation law in 1780; Connecticut and Rhode Island followed four years later (all before the Constitution). New York approved emancipation in 1799. These states (with dynamic banking centers in Philadelphia and Manhattan) quickly emerged as robust centers of commerce and manufacturing, greatly enriching themselves while the slave-based economies in the South languished by comparison. At the time of the Constitution, Virginia constituted the most populous and wealthiest state in the Union, but by the time of the War Between the States the Old Dominion had fallen far behind a half-dozen northern states that had outlawed slavery two generations earlier. All analyses of Northern victory in the great sectional struggle highlights the vast advantages in terms of wealth and productivity in New England, the Mid-Atlantic States and the Midwest, compared to the relatively backward and impoverished states of the Confederacy. While a few elite families in the Old South undoubtedly based their formidable fortunes on the labor of slaves, the prevailing reality of the planter class involved chronic indebtedness and shaky finances long before the ultimate collapse of the evil system of bondage. The notion that America based its wealth and development on slave labor hardly comports with the obvious reality that for two hundred years since the founding of the Republic, by far the poorest and least developed section of the nation was precisely that region where slavery once prevailed.
these kind of ignorant posts is why people cant have an educated talk about slavery....before we "white devils" came over there to take Africans back to America...they were enslaving each other into their tribes 100's of years prior to the first ship setting foot there....since the first true civilizations started in those area's y'all can thank people of a darker skin for coming up with the idea...that to the victor go the spoils of war...foods, goods, an people....azthey just used black people as slaves because they somehow saw themselves as superiors. it's sickening