6week strain

ICGA

ICGA

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xtsho said:
Where do you get your incorrect information? PCK strains stretching for 3-5 weeks? That's pure nonsense. I've been growing PCK for years and have made multiple crosses with it. None of them stretch for 3-5 weeks before they get going.

You also say Sensi /White Label Afghan Kush is done in 6 weeks. 6 weeks is 36 days. It says on their website 45-55 days. I've grown it and it is not done in that time. I've also grown their Hindu Kush which says 45 to 50 days and is not done in that time frame either.

You are harvesting early and just don't realize it.

Instead of harvesting early and repeating something you heard online why don't you grow these strains that you seem to be an expert on until they're actually done and then come back and tell us how that too early 6 week harvest is better than harvesting at 8-10 weeks when the flowering is actually done.

It's too bad for you that you're harvesting your weed early as you'd have a better product if you didn't.
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You may be correct about the PCA stock you acquired but the people I'm referring to may have different stock. Also many of them were growing PCK that's crossed to another sativa which may have made it worse. Ide bet money that there is both highland PCK aka indica and lowland PCK aka sativa. You probably got lucky and got the indica PCK which grew somewhere with a shorter season and more wind, usually at a higher altitude, so it's morphology is shorter and more compact as well as quicker flowering then one from closer to sea level. I just got some PCK freebies so I'm excited to see for my self. Hopefully they are on the indica side of the packi spectrum.
Sensi seeds makes seeds from land races using multiple phenotypes, as in; several differant females and differant males in order to preserve the variaton that they collected. Within the sensi afghan stock are plants which flower much shorter.
 
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conor c

conor c

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ICGA said:
OK USA clone only Blue Cheese is not a line of seeds. It is S1 UK cheese x blueberry #4. Both UK cheese and BB#4 have afghan kush in them which has phenotypes which flower in 5 to 7 weeks because they don't have enough water in afganistan and they only water a few times during flower then they cut it down and make hash. So over thousands of crops they have bread a supper short flowering strain which is in UK cheese because UK cheese is an IBL of skunk and skunk has afghani in it. Bb4 is also heavy in Afghani kush. Hence the progeny of BB4 and an s1 decendant of UK Cheese that had homozygous allels that coded for short flowering because the s1 process chopped off the sativa side of the skunk line leaving a primarily Afghani plant that still had cheese smells but a more kush high and flowered in less than 7 weeks. Created a sweet sticky light blue bud with a blueberry candy cheese smell. It has grayblue/cammo/green leaves that are highly serrated. Highly serrated leaves are an afganica leaf trait BTW.
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Straight cheese is skunk#1 just from 88 sensi seeds its just a stinky pheno so it has a tiny bit of mazari in it thats all and thats not a kush strain mazari is huge lol not all afghanis are kushes my friend
 
jondamon

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ICGA said:
Usually they mean from the day you flip indoors and the day you see pistols outdoors. Commen sense
really
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Is it though?

because I am yet to find a strain that is done In The breeders flowering times if that time is counted from flip to 12/12.

For example Dinafem Critical+ is a 50-55 day flowering time according to breeder.

Not one of their phenotypes I have found is done in 50-55 days of 12/12.

However though their earliest phenotype I have found (grown the strain from seed at least once a year for 10 years) is 68 days of 12-12 which would you Adam and Eve it is right around their 50-55 days of flower if you don’t count the stretch.

So is it common sense really?


this is what I mean by put up or shut up.

here’s a thread I created about growing some blue cheese and using my, at the time aggressive pruning techniques, as some folks called BS on what advice I was giving people as I only had 4 years growing under my belt at the time.

My grow room with some cheese.

Hey folks. Well I've been asked many times about my training methods, and also alot of folks have called BS on some of my advice/methods (those that haven't tried any). So I figured I would start this thread with my current grow. The pictures I'm about to upload are during the 2week...
rollitup.org

So again I say the best way to shut anyone up is to PROVE it.

So @ICGA I say again PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
 
jondamon

jondamon

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conor c said:
Straight cheese is skunk#1 just from 88 sensi seeds its just a stinky pheno so it has a tiny bit of mazari in it thats all and thats not a kush strain mazari is huge lol not all afghanis are kushes my friend
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Unfortunately mate you can’t convince this guy of anything as he’s clearly a weed snob who knows better than anyone else.
 
ICGA

ICGA

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VincenzioVonHook said:
Ooooh look, we have a full blown thc elitist here on his 20ft horse wearing three monocles smoking a pipe full of gold.

Bruh, just let people choose how they like their weed and stop being such a judgmental douche. Some people have insomnia. It helps with sleep. Some people have an overactive sympathetic nervous system and find CBN lowers their cortisol levels and helps with over activity.

I like heady sativa for a buz. I like CBN heavy weed for a good night's sleep after a 36 hour shift with a single 6 hour break.
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Sure but if your that sleepy do you really need CBN? Maybe it helps if your coming off a methamphetamine high and can't sleep yet. And I'm sure your right about the potential medical use of CBN but it's probably not productive for the average consumer. Lol it causes laziness and shit. BTW how did you know I am an elitightest? I'm only an intellectual elightest but I don't discriminate against ignorant people as long as they aren't taking it out on people they resent. All I'm saying is six week fully ripe bud with all the hairs brown and coated in resin with good smell is a reality. It's just probably only in Sertan afghan lines. That have been properly integrated with other plants to preserve the extra quick ripening.
 
conor c

conor c

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ICGA said:
Sure but if your that sleepy do you really need CBN? Maybe it helps if your coming off a methamphetamine high and can't sleep yet. And I'm sure your right about the potential medical use of CBN but it's probably not productive for the average consumer. Lol it causes laziness and shit. BTW how did you know I am an elitightest? I'm only an intellectual elightest but I don't discriminate against ignorant people as long as they aren't taking it out on people they resent. All I'm saying is six week fully ripe bud with all the hairs brown and coated in resin with good smell is a reality. It's just probably only in Sertan afghan lines. That have been properly integrated with other plants to preserve the extra quick ripening.
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Nah i just got adhd and dont take meds from a doc as there useless and counterproductive idk about anyone else some cbn is ok by me
 
jondamon

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conor c said:
Nah i just got adhd and dont take meds from a doc as there useless and counterproductive idk about anyone else some cbn is ok by me
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This is the thing isn’t it.

years ago weed was judged by how wrecked you got and how quickly you got there.

I find a lot of USA growers tend to get Hung up on THC when it’s only one part of the puzzle.

If any THC chasers came to the U.K. with weed that didn’t make you feel comatosed you’d be laughed out of the dealers game here lol.
 
ICGA

ICGA

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conor c said:
Straight cheese is skunk#1 just from 88 sensi seeds its just a stinky pheno so it has a tiny bit of mazari in it thats all and thats not a kush strain mazari is huge lol not all afghanis are kushes my friend
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UK cheese in an IBL of skunk which had the skunk smell toned down during inbreeding till it only smelled like cheese. Idk about you but cheese doesn't smell like roadkill skunk to me. I agree skunk probably has that filthy mazari plant bread for higher yields with a horrible taste inside its genome but cheese is a refinement of that strain which is much better tasting as they have removed that mizari riffraff from the genepool. That being sed it must have afghan in it because afghan is the only place with a phenotype that is grown in the desert with Carmel shit and sand, then harvested at 5 weeks for hash. The only six week strain I grew was sensi's afgan x Hindu kush which tasted horrible but was coated with sugar leaf even on the fan leaves but all resin heads went brown by week 8 as it was over ripe and lost its stone. Same with USA clone only blue cheese. Somewhere in kush lies the kee to a six week strain. I guess I will have to make seed to prove it...
 
xtsho

xtsho

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ICGA said:
You may be correct about the PCA stock you acquired but the people I'm referring to may have different stock. Also many of them were growing PCK that's crossed to another sativa which may have made it worse. Ide bet money that there is both highland PCK aka indica and lowland PCK aka sativa. You probably got lucky and got the indica PCK which grew somewhere with a shorter season and more wind, usually at a higher altitude, so it's morphology is shorter and more compact as well as quicker flowering then one from closer to sea level. I just got some PCK freebies so I'm excited to see for my self. Hopefully they are on the indicator side of the packi spectrum.
Sensi seeds makes seeds from land races using multiple phenotypes, as in; several differant females and differant males in order to preserve the variaton that they collected. Within the sensi afghan stock are plants which flower much shorter.
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So now there's a lowland PCK that's a sativa? I've never heard that before most likely because it's not true.

You must be confusing PCK "Pakistani Chitral Kush" with the P.C.K hybrid from DNA.

I'm well aware of the variety one encounters from landrace strains. Everything from Sensi has been worked extensively to produce similar plants. Their goal is uniformity not variation. The majority of people that purchase seeds want to know what they're getting. They don't want the variation that comes from growing wild type landrace strains and Sensi as do most seed outfits select the best plants with the traits they want and breed those out stabilizing them. They're not open pollinating a bunch of plants to preserve any variation. At least not for anything they sell.

The real PCK can be gotten from ACE which got their original stock from Cannabiogen decades ago. There are no sativa phenos. It's 100% indica.
 
ICGA

ICGA

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jondamon said:
This is the thing isn’t it.

years ago weed was judged by how wrecked you got and how quickly you got there.

I find a lot of USA growers tend to get Hung up on THC when it’s only one part of the puzzle.

If any THC chasers came to the U.K. with weed that didn’t make you feel comatosed you’d be laughed out of the dealers game here lol.
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I agree thc is not a metric of how high you can get. What strains are going around the uk that can get you slammed irrespective of THC level?
 
jondamon

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ICGA said:
I agree thc is not a metric of how high you can get. What strains are going around the uk that can get you slammed irrespective of THC level?
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We don’t even test THC levels here mate.

i haven’t been in those circles for a very long time. I grow my own to keep myself to myself.

I do though have friends who still get from dealers.

and when they get their “Cali” weed they’re always whining to me that it doesn’t even get them stoned.

So come looking to me for some of mine.
 
ICGA

ICGA

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jondamon said:
Is it though?

because I am yet to find a strain that is done In The breeders flowering times if that time is counted from flip to 12/12.

For example Dinafem Critical+ is a 50-55 day flowering time according to breeder.

Not one of their phenotypes I have found is done in 50-55 days of 12/12.

However though their earliest phenotype I have found (grown the strain from seed at least once a year for 10 years) is 68 days of 12-12 which would you Adam and Eve it is right around their 50-55 days of flower if you don’t count the stretch.

So is it common sense really?


this is what I mean by put up or shut up.

here’s a thread I created about growing some blue cheese and using my, at the time aggressive pruning techniques, as some folks called BS on what advice I was giving people as I only had 4 years growing under my belt at the time.

My grow room with some cheese.

Hey folks. Well I've been asked many times about my training methods, and also alot of folks have called BS on some of my advice/methods (those that haven't tried any). So I figured I would start this thread with my current grow. The pictures I'm about to upload are during the 2week...
rollitup.org

So again I say the best way to shut anyone up is to PROVE it.

So @ICGA I say again PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
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I will look for the clone again when I can.
If you add more light they may finish faster. More light means more nutes and co2 or fresh air as growth is only as good as the most limmiting factor. Make sure your bulbs arent too old as they diminish over time. Likewise reflectors loose their reflectivity over time. Also many breeders are unprofessional and exaggerate especially the Dutch.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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ICGA said:
Also many breeders are unprofessional and exaggerate especially the Dutch.
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This statement just completely and utterly obliterates what you said earlier about it being common sense that it’s timed from the flip to 12/12 lmao.

So either it’s common sense that breeders state flowering times of flip to 12/12

Or

They are unprofessional and exaggerate.

Which is it lol.
 
ICGA

ICGA

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jondamon said:
We don’t even test THC levels here mate.

i haven’t been in those circles for a very long time. I grow my own to keep myself to myself.

I do though have friends who still get from dealers.

and when they get their “Cali” weed they’re always whining to me that it doesn’t even get them stoned.

So come looking to me for some of mine.
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In Cali when dealers are breaking the law and exporting, It is likely that they send the cheapest thing they can get. But I agree most of the good growers here grow for them selves and friends and the real shit may not be easy to find as the market is flooded with cheap commercial junk now that its legal and every random person who smokes twice a month is a grower lol. Also it is true that new strains are loosing the unique kinds of high that older breeders prioritized. It is good that land races are being preserved by some seed companies again and some people are taking the time to breed the high back in to their locally popular varieties.
 
conor c

conor c

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ICGA said:
UK cheese in an IBL of skunk which had the skunk smell toned down during inbreeding till it only smelled like cheese. Idk about you but cheese doesn't smell like roadkill skunk to me. I agree skunk probably has that filthy mazari plant bread for higher yields with a horrible taste inside its genome but cheese is a refinement of that strain which is much better tasting as they have removed that mizari riffraff from the genepool. That being sed it must have afghan in it because afghan is the only place with a phenotype that is grown in the desert with Carmel shit and sand, then harvested at 5 weeks for hash. The only six week strain I grew was sensi's afgan x Hindu kush which tasted horrible but was coated with sugar leaf even on the fan leaves but all resin heads went brown by week 8 as it was over ripe and lost its stone. Same with USA clone only blue cheese. Somewhere in kush lies the kee to a six week strain. I guess I will have to make seed to prove it...
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The cheese traits breed recessive mate its why there are few decent seed versions on the market tbh no cheese ibl to date is even close so again nah i think your trolling now im out
 
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