7th try to do this (Journal Record 1/3/2011-current)

Looking good for just coming out of the shadows! Digging the coloring..


Topping isn't hard... once you do it you understand the process, and after you understand the process it's very trivial as to why it confused you in the first place..

I don't even tie my plants down, unless I'm trying to keep a main large branch down...


What i usually do (after an hour or so of drinking some water) is ever so slightly bend the branches, or pinch into the skin EVER so slightly so that the plant leans onto the pinched side..... this is how I get fan leaves to stay where I want them, and how I get the branches to reach out more... But if they are dry, or you do it too hard/too much you can puncture the skin of the plant.. you dont want that really, but it won't kill them

When I do this type of training, I notice enlarged and stronger branches... I try to do this below budsites to optimize light and the work the branch how I want it

Occasionally Ill tie down a strong branch so that it doesn't go anywhere

thanks alot for the info, its much appreciated... also, i may try doing it the way you described next grow. i usually kinda fold the bigger leaves out of the way and tht kinda thing. With the bbg being almost done in 2 wks or so, i cut away some yellowing, dry leaves tht were on thier last leg and pruned a little, im gonna flush her in about 2 to 3 days also.

just stick around my seedling has 6 days on it... should start some training in a few weeks... ill top practically as soon as it starts branching...

ill be posting pics around

i'll definately check it out, im gonna post back up when i get close to harvest and after harvest so he can peep out how his may look like, i also wanna see the progress of his bbg to see how it turns out, so if ya post up pics imma definately peep ya.

.Todays update 2/18/2011 i am anxiously awaiting for fed ex to show up the new clone machine is here and some other supplies going to try out CO2 bags see how they work i dont have a meter so just going to have see if i notice any changes i was using vinegar and baking soda which was ok until got the mixture into the res water and had to change it out and clean everything oh well i learned a good lesson well back on track here if anyone has advice on cloning and where to take cuttings from would be appreciated got everything i need for when fed ex shows up.so until later all have a good day an enjoy the pics

these 2 are the TD profile picView attachment 1448267 and top picView attachment 1448269 of her first bud and it does smell slighty tangerinish already went and bought some tangerines for comparison lol and i be damned the smell is very close kinda like if you were to put tangerine peels in a sack of dank northern lights

ok this next set is all the monster which i had to reign in a bit she was spreading out to much did a bit of lst tech to get her to grow up and not out well the first is pic of her top bud and the next three are her main stem threw the lighter in there for a size comparison her base is easily as big round as my thumb.
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these last two are overall size pics which she has hit 15" as of this morning she has accelerated in growth to bout 1 1/2" every 24hrs
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Here are the Pics from the 18th that for some reason posted as attachments which cant be viewed so the first set is the Natural BBG and the second 2 are the TD

2/20/2011 well here we are on day 9 of flower todays update is a mixed blessing for me the natural BBG has started to spread out and stretch which is good but bad for how much space i have this is going to be a challenging test of plant growth management.The frst three pics are group shots of the three girls I know you cant really tell where my poor topped BBG is cause her sister kinda still has her under her wing so to speak but she is 10" today and slowy working her way out to the light the TD is at 8"s pulled her over a bit more so she lost a bit of height but all in all they doing very well had little bit of nute burn show from the switch to flowering nutes not very much just a couple leaves with tip burn so not really an issue. So theres todays update still need to finish cleaning up after res change and cleaning today bumped the total res capacity to 8 gals also today as the depeltion rate is now closer to 3/4gal a day now.Later all and many an awesome blossom for all.


Tangerine Dream Nat BBG Topped BBG (4 Main)

Lookin real good.. nice and bushy it look like.. im gonna be choppin my blueberry gum in around 10 days or so just flushed her yesterday. keep up the nice work my man...

Looking good dude loving the branching


You might be able to try to get that big one to grow slightly right, and the other one next to it slightly left... let the little one get out into the light, and the big one to occupy the little bit of free space on the right.. Then have them grow up branches inbetween eachother if you have to... Otherwise I see the big one just taking a lot of the light on the little one, and a lot of space on the right hand side going unused..


I'd reccomend gently tying some string 3/4 the way up the big plant, and tying the other end to smoething on the right... and just making the string tight enough to make the TOP of the plant begin to lean... And you keep moving the string, and tying it a little harder as you go to make the lean more drastic if you wish... But at least this way it will begin to GROW to the right to occupy the free space & will get your little one to the left of it exposed in some light... And hopefully the little one can catch up a bit and get some of her tops in the light


Just a slight solution I saw, that I wanted to share.. Take it as you wish, your grow, & you know more than me about your grow

Ok that was scary Verde i was just thinking about that this afternoon and brainstrorming on how i was going to make it happen. figured out the method easy enough but you made the perfect call on where to hook on and pull her over. I invented a perfect system for LST with my hydro system. Velcro hook and loop is the tool I stuck a 1" wide strip along the top edge then attach the opposite side to the string end as a 1" square folded in half around the string works perfect for an anchor and lets me position anywhere i need to +rep Verde for the final piece of the puzzle LOL

Will post some pics tommorow on how it works

for sure

make sure your stems are nice and wet/bendy... not dry before you train

Just start with a little, and the plant will adapt and then keep pushing it... SAME idea as nutes too much at once isn't good, but building up over time is great

This is why I start very early

Nice job. your bbg looks a lot like mine. (kind of nice to see that seeds are stable) I am putting mine on hold for a bit before I flower. Its going to be a giant. Thanks for a very informative journal on your methods.

HEY GreenG glad to see you stop by was wonderin when you would make it back Yeah the BBG really has serious potential wish i had the space to just let them go but unfortunately i dont so have to keep them as shorty's but as my first grow it has taught me huge and i really hope the Hydroton medium wiil preserve the soil taste as everyone seems to think there is a difference between soil and hydro i myself dont really think it is that noticable but one never knows haha.Anyway Glad to see your back your girl is huge i cant wait to see the monster buds she puts out now i am jealous you look like you got an awesome grow area goin on not to mention that huge BBG. well later and many an awesome blossom +rep for the pics n welcome back

Well decided to rearrange the lights today and feel better now they are covering all the girls thoroughly also wanted to wotk the HPS closer but yet not have the heat change so a simple fix with the hangers so they are only hooked on one side giving the light just enough sideway twist and success i got to lower the HPS another 8"s and off to the side so the small girls get full effect from the HPS and still blasting the Big BBG with full light and the T5 is also positioned close to the top of the Big BBG again so this arrangement might work out at least for now still getting the hang of having to position lighting for best effect and penetration into my little island of green.almost to the 30 day mark from harvest target date both the TD and BBG have 50 -60 day flowering periods so going to invest in a pocket microscope tommorow so i can watch the trich color and keep a closer on eye out for any hazardous pests.

Friday 2/25/2011 Update


Pics 1 and 2 are of Nat BBG Height tracking 26.5" These 2 are overall group shot left to right back rightBBG/front rightBBG this is the TD her actual Height 13" LST
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OK todays pop quiz which bud is the top cola of the monster BBG +rep for the right pick.
Hint:may be more than one muahaha !!!

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So there it is guys todays pic update not much for specs just watchin the grass grow Quick recap NatBBG is at 26.5" tall her sister plant Has four main colas tallest being 17" and the Tangrine Dream is at 13" LST is in progress and responding well

I was gonna try

2/25/2011 Friday pic update: sorry dont know why that happens sometimes but here are the pics in roughly the same order lol
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nice lookin plants my man... im about to chop my blueberry gum in 5 days, i'll post some pics right before i chop her and then again after i trimmed her up. i got a kandy kush comin down in another 2 weeks. Then its on to the next batch.... i got a few of those tangerine dream seeds also, so im lookin forward to seein how your's ends up.

ok so i am bored heres a quick timeline picture history of grow til present I think i got them in order they are all date stamped anyway


from this



to this in 41 days The tangerine dream is 29 days old
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its kinda smooth to sit back and peep the pics ya took the first few weeks and then to see the progress each time you post a new one. i was doing tht shit the other day, lol. It gets better and better every rip...