They're about 5 inches above the tops of the plants. They all seem to be doing fine right now.
80w Induction Lighting Grow Box 1 AK48 2 Bagseed
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chazbolin
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Definitely solar radiation contributes both UV and IR but at veg the nodule spacing is increased and the stems are spindly without enough UV energy present.
As to the temp in the center; are these lamps rated for a base up application? The reason I ask is that the area inside the plastic housing is at least 20 degrees hotter then a measurement on the outside of the housing and with the number of hours these will be running you do not want these what are basically a high frequency generators inside the driver housings burning up mid grow.
As to the temp in the center; are these lamps rated for a base up application? The reason I ask is that the area inside the plastic housing is at least 20 degrees hotter then a measurement on the outside of the housing and with the number of hours these will be running you do not want these what are basically a high frequency generators inside the driver housings burning up mid grow.
chazbolin
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I checked out the website to try and get more info on the lamps you're using but I didn't see them listed as 80 watts ea only 40 ea so I take it the 80 watts is a total load with both lamps running. Is that correct?
I did see the hydroponic lights though from 80 to 150 watts as a complete fixture. You won't see the link from the home page for these you have to go to 'applications' Did you consider these?
CHIEF PUFF PUFF
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Hey Steve, you seedlings really don't need all that light just yet. When they are 3 weeks old I would add that 2700k light. They are growing good but I don't want to see you burn your babies.
Well so far everything is going great. The bag seed has really taken off though the one in the cup has stretched a bit (it sits a little lower than the other two). The AK is growing nicely just not as fast. I have noticed that the plants tend to lean toward the 6500k light. My guess is that it's because it's the spectrum they love at this point. I'm thinking for my next grow I'll do 2 of each spectrum for veg and flower. This will also give me a reason to add the small CFL I wanted to. From what I've been told plants grow best with a full spectrum. It may not need much of the 2700k spectrum right now but it doesn't hurt to have it there. So my next grow will start with 2 induction 6500k's and a small 2700k CFL and then switch them for flowering.
Oh and from what tinkering I've done I'd say between 3 and 5 inches is the perfect height for these lights. They don't burn the plants at all and they don't seem to stretch. Temps are still holding in the high 70's and low 80's inside. I'll post pics in a few days. Everyone have a great weekend.
Oh and from what tinkering I've done I'd say between 3 and 5 inches is the perfect height for these lights. They don't burn the plants at all and they don't seem to stretch. Temps are still holding in the high 70's and low 80's inside. I'll post pics in a few days. Everyone have a great weekend.
Well today is day 13 of veg. So far things are going well. The bag seeds are the one in the cup and the pot on the right. The one in the cup is smaller than the other two. I'm thinking I'm going to put something under it to bring it closer to the lights. The bag seed in the pot is still the biggest one so far. It's starting the 4th node already. Both the AK and the cup bagseed are working on their 3rd.
any guesses what the bag seed might be? The leaves are coming in nice and fat so my guess is indica.
any guesses what the bag seed might be? The leaves are coming in nice and fat so my guess is indica.
Well so far the two in the pots are going great. The cup is not doing so well. Staying realy small. So based on this I"ve decided one plant per light should be about right. Once again the bag seed is on the right.
In case any of you are curious I do rotate them I just happen to take pics when she's over there. The bag seed grew into the light a litle when I wasn't looking and got a small burn.
I'm going to switch them into 12/12 either on day 20 or 25 I'm thinking. Right now they're on their 4th and 5th node production. I'm not sure if I want to top. Never done it before but it might be good for keeping these things shorter for the box.
The lights have been performing wonderfully. Temps are staying in the high 70's and low 80's. The new box so far is far superior to the old box and lights. I'm just going to stick to two plants form now on. Here's the pics.
Day 17
In case any of you are curious I do rotate them I just happen to take pics when she's over there. The bag seed grew into the light a litle when I wasn't looking and got a small burn.
I'm going to switch them into 12/12 either on day 20 or 25 I'm thinking. Right now they're on their 4th and 5th node production. I'm not sure if I want to top. Never done it before but it might be good for keeping these things shorter for the box.
The lights have been performing wonderfully. Temps are staying in the high 70's and low 80's. The new box so far is far superior to the old box and lights. I'm just going to stick to two plants form now on. Here's the pics.
Day 17
pelt1
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Topping is pretty much my favorite thing. I think you can somewhat shape the way you want your plants to grow via topping. I have found through a few grows that I much prefer topping solo, instead of LST or LST + topping.
It's pretty simple after that first time when you see what you need to do. You would be better topping while still vegging, so I like to let mine grow the node, and then get some growth before topping. It seems if you wait till right after the node forms where you cut, if you do it too soon it kinda stresses the plant quite a bit.
I'll also be starting a few solos shortly with a bunch of bagseed as well.
SimplySmoked
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Looking good man. One suggestion is to remove your carbon filter until flower. This will help keep your temps down some, plus there will be more air circulated. Your plant typically wont smell until its mature. Also if you haven't already i'd either double up the exhaust or put a small computer fan on the intake side pushing air in. Just my opinion though, Keep up the good work!
Well I'm not really worried about temps. They are staying in a healthy area right now. I also open the door and have a desk fan blow the plants around for 5 hours a day. The stems are going to be nice and strong. I might add another exhaust if I put in the third light I'm thinking of. But only if it's a CFL. I might get one of those small LED spotlight ones. I'm reading up on how well they do as supplimental lighting. If you have any experience with them feel free to chime in.
Oh and just from a building stand point you actually want fans for exhaust and not intake. The reason being is you want suction. That way the smell doesn't leak out it has to go through the filters. In my last box I had the fans pushing out the filters and it just caused problems. Having passive intake and then filter and then the exhaust fan gives it much stronger air flow. I guess it's easier to pull than push.
pelt1
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Yep, having negative pressure inside a case is always cooler. This is the same for cooling the components inside your PC as for your grow box.
Okay I was distracted last night by strippers and booze. Here are the pics from day 21. They just woke up from their first 12 hour dark period. This time the bag seed is on the left under the 6500k light. Hope everyone has a great weekend.
EDIT: Oh and you may have noticed the cup is gone. After 21 days it had not developed beyond the second node. I'll be sticking with two plant grows unless I make a larger grow space and can provide a 3rd light. hopefully it was the male.
EDIT: Oh and you may have noticed the cup is gone. After 21 days it had not developed beyond the second node. I'll be sticking with two plant grows unless I make a larger grow space and can provide a 3rd light. hopefully it was the male.
Well it's been a little while since I posted pics so here we go. The bagseed is on the right this time. The lights have been working wonderfully. So far the growth is much better than when I just used CFL's. Temps are still holding in the high 70's and low 80's. Well not much to do until they show me their genitals.
Day 29
Day 29