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Dragon Daddy said:
When you mix part a and the epsom salt together in a cup of hot water, do you not want to add the part b/cal nit to that same cup? Do you need to do the 15-0-0 cal nit/part b in its own cup, then pour into the five gallon bucket?
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Exactly you need to keep the concentrated mixtures separate when hydrating them and then add to your large bucket. At that point the mixture is quite diluted and basically the salt ions in solution will not bump into each other and snow out as it were. Anytime you want to BS about this just tag me. Here is my current grow as of a few minutes ago and a feeding night as well, I am really happy with them getting frosty already.

Fire OG (Seedsman Black Friday strain) and Wedding Cake
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Dinafem Gorilla and BC Buds Girl Scout Cookie
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Blitz35 said:
Heat destroys cannabinoids??? You have ALOT more reading to do to understand the process and what actually happens when one smokes! heating ACTIVATES cannabinoids...that's why you have to light it/burn it. to get high..or you eat it with edibles...but in edibles as well..the thc/bud has to be heated to 'activate' the cannabinoids, before putting it into edibles! Keep reading!!! :)
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Yes heat destroys Cannabinoids
THC boiling point at 315 F
CBD 350 F
CBN 370F
Terps the same.
Remember this when you bake your brownies at 350 like most recipes online say or press at high temps and wonder why everbody else's concentrates are simply better than yours.

It's because you have no idea wtf your doing. But I bet your house smelt great evaporating all those terps and thc in the oven :dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:
 
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buyyouabeer said:
Exactly you need to keep the concentrated mixtures separate when hydrating them and then add to your large bucket. At that point the mixture is quite diluted and basically the salt ions in solution will not bump into each other and snow out as it were. Anytime you want to BS about this just tag me. Here is my current grow as of a few minutes ago and a feeding night as well, I am really happy with them getting frosty already.

Fire OG (Seedsman Black Friday strain) and Wedding Cake
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Dinafem Gorilla and BC Buds Girl Scout Cookie
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I had a fire og clone for a while very strong. Terps was amazing. Made some super duper sauce
 
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I have a volcano digit and I have always known the THC boiling to be 392f and cbn and others at 412f and above. From my extensive experience with the device those are the temps you get those results.
 
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Dragon Daddy said:
I have a volcano digit and I have always known the THC boiling to be 392f and cbn and others at 412f and above. From my extensive experience with the device those are the temps you get those results.
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no. THC boiling point is not 392F but either case for inhaling or smoking it that's fine, bump it up to 430F you will get some CBC too, But what temps to smoke or vape is not what the conversation is about

We are discussing cannabinoids being destroyed by high temps in concentrate production.
 
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TheHarvester said:
So true. Early harvesting is one of the biggest issues and causes of an unbalance canabinoid profile.
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I wouldn't call it an imbalance, This depends on who you are.
If you get paranoid or have anxiety unripe bud will not be for you. It has no CBN because the thc hasn't degraded or oxidize.
Euros pulled early for a more energetic high many years ago. It was devoid of sedation.

The CBN will cure insomnia, kill anxiety and highly sedative. When I say kill insomnia it's like a pill.
I can't call it an imbalance. A vegan diet is an unbalanced diet. It's just a high not for you. Without CBN and low thc tolerance probably won't work for some. Try it out on one of your high thc strains, take far as you can take it then slow dry and cure longer the higher concentration. Thats your night time meds for you. Higher the the better as you do need thc to degrade more the better. I went a month pass ripe. Then further degraded by curing 1 month. Stoney stuff
 
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toomp said:
I wouldn't call it an imbalance, This depends on who you are.
If you get paranoid or have anxiety unripe bud will not be for you. It has no CBN because the thc hasn't degraded or oxidize.
Euros pulled early for a more energetic high many years ago. It was devoid of sedation.

The CBN will cure insomnia, kill anxiety and highly sedative. When I say kill insomnia it's like a pill.
I can't call it an imbalance. A vegan diet is an unbalanced diet. It's just a high not for you. Without CBN and low thc tolerance probably won't work for some. Try it out on one of your high thc strains, take far as you can take it then slow dry and cure longer the higher concentration. Thats your night time meds for you. Higher the the better as you do need thc to degrade more the better. I went a month pass ripe. Then further degraded by curing 1 month. Stoney stuff
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There's such a thing as an over abundance of THC in comparison to over canabinoids. I understand you can correct that somewhat with a good long cure for degradation.
But why not grow the correct strain and let it fully ripen?
Unripe bud is not for anyone and it's not really cool to spread that kind of information.
Unripe bud is part of what gives cannabis its tarnished name. Pychosis and mental issues.
 
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TheHarvester said:
There's such a thing as an over abundance of THC in comparison to over canabinoids. I understand you can correct that somewhat with a good long cure for degradation.
But why not grow the correct strain and let it fully ripen?
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Because we where discussing isolating CBN, which there is no correct strain for because All strains produce it, concentration will be higher in high thc strains.
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Unripe bud is not for anyone
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Who are you to tell people which color they should enjoy their trichomes? Really. Do you tell people they can't eat a firm plum they have to wait until it collaspe?
I can tell you are very young. In the 90s most of Amsterdam shops had every thing pulled a week or 2 early. If you buy so do you lol. Are you really looking at these close ups people post here? Lol okay.

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it's not really cool to spread that kind of information.
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what information would that be. Please quote directly any information I post that cannot be verified.
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Unripe bud is part of what gives cannabis its tarnished name.
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Really? This whole time I thought it was the war on drugs, elementary school dare programs, Commercials with scrambled eggs, politicians saying it's a gateway drug to cocaine and heroin. All this time all along the culprit was some ass hole with a greenhouse that pulled his og kush at 8 weeks instead of 9 weeks.
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Pychosis and mental issues.
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Again if you have pychosis mental issue I advise you to see a mental health counselor.


All these posts is the reason I don't get advice online. Most the post here have no idea what they talking about
 
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TheHarvester said:
Especially if you don't let them ripen, which is probably 16 weeks.

Patients is key, it's part of what growing cannabis teaches. Part of why it's practice is so therapeutic.
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Not really. You just don't get high. Landraces have very low thc. I was in Bangkok 8 months ago.

I was in Jamaica as well better in the heart of LA.
 
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I have personally had very intense highs from old landraces when weed was known by where it came from in the late '60s early '70s. Don’t know if any exists these days but why do folks think it caused such a stir if it was so weak? A joint of real Panama Red would have you and friends in happy grins for hours. Lake ChapLa or other highland Mexican or Black Colombian or Jamiacan. Acapulco Gold! They weren’t famous 'cause they were shit. Much different than today’s herb but I cannot reason exactly where those things are. Mostly Sativas.

I do sometimes wonder about the high fromseeded and unseeded plants but that might just be a stoner's folly
 
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hillbill said:
I have personally had very intense highs from old landraces when weed was known by where it came from in the late '60s early '70s. Don’t know if any exists these days but why do folks think it caused such a stir if it was so weak? A joint of real Panama Red would have you and friends in happy grins for hours. Lake ChapLa or other highland Mexican or Black Colombian or Jamiacan. Acapulco Gold! They weren’t famous 'cause they were shit. Much different than today’s herb but I cannot reason exactly where those things are. Mostly Sativas.
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60s-70s? I'm sure it was good. I tried Panama Red in A-Dam. My Uncle and Aunt was there. It's not what you grew up on. It's better than what I got in Bangkok but not very good. Believe it or not Jamaica has alot of hybrids and ogs that doesn't look like OG. I'm going back this summer maybe I find something native and good. I was looking for old orange hill indica i don't know if you heard of it before, it's old stuff. But I think your old school stuff is gone.
I had skunk back in the day liked it. Grew it a decade ago. The old skunk is gone too. Myself and group of others beg Sam to bring the old skunk back 5 years ago, he said he likes what he got now better. So that's that
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I do sometimes wonder about the high fromseeded and unseeded plants but that might just be a stoner's folly
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I don't think it makes a difference. I had chemdog seeded and non smoked the same. Only difference I noticed oil from the seeds fucking up consistently in concentrates.
 
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toomp said:
Because we where discussing isolating CBN, which there is no correct strain for because All strains produce it, concentration will be higher in high thc strains.

Who are you to tell people which color they should enjoy their trichomes? Really. Do you tell people they can't eat a firm plum they have to wait until it collaspe?
I can tell you are very young. In the 90s most of Amsterdam shops had every thing pulled a week or 2 early. If you buy so do you lol. Are you really looking at these close ups people post here? Lol okay.

what information would that be. Please quote directly any information I post that cannot be verified.

Really? This whole time I thought it was the war on drugs, elementary school dare programs, Commercials with scrambled eggs, politicians saying it's a gateway drug to cocaine and heroin. All this time all along the culprit was some ass hole with a greenhouse that pulled his og kush at 8 weeks instead of 9 weeks.

Again if you have pychosis mental issue I advise you to see a mental health counselor.


All these posts is the reason I don't get advice online. Most the post here have no idea what they talking about
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Anyway, good for you that you know everything... It shows in your grammar.
Explain to me how Jamaica has OG's that don't look like OG's
I'd say they aren't OG's then wouldn't you???? You honestly don't make sense.
Hey they have tons of corvettes in japan, but they don't look like corvettes. Maybe that's not a corvette then??
Is it an OG because the Jamaican that sold it to you said it was?? You ever here of this thing called sales and marketing?? Or people who don't tell the truth????

Again unripe bud isn't for anyone. If you like unripe bud, then find a different strain.
Unripe bud will have too high of a THC ratio to other cannabinoids for proper mental health or even enjoyment. Go ahead and argue.
Lets not mention the loss of weight you will experience with equates to a waste.

You are showing your true ignorance.
I was referring to it's bad name regarding mental health not in general. We can make a long list for that.
Hey as long as you have someone to argue with though.

Also explain to be why anyone would want unripe bud as oppose to a strain that holds a similar cannabinoid profile when fully rippen???
 
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TheHarvester said:
Anyway, good for you that you know everything... It shows in your grammar.
Explain to me how Jamaica has OG's that don't look like OG's
I'd say they aren't OG's then wouldn't you????
You honestly don't make sense.
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Yes that's the point.
Congratulations you are an idiot.
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Hey they have tons of corvettes in japan, but they don't look like corvettes. Maybe that's not a corvette then??
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What are you talking about. Do you even know?. I meant to ask you that a few posts ago.

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Is it an OG because the Jamaican that sold it to you said it was?? You ever here of this thing called sales and marketing?? Or people who don't tell the truth????
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Again I have no idea what you are talking about and I'm sure you don't either. But I been to the fields where you can see the crops and you don't have to buy anything lol. But im sure you have never actually never been. Your closet grows don't net enough.

TheHarvester said:
Again unripebud isn't for anyone..
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Why do you keep talking about this? I don't give a shit about what Europeans smoke.


TheHarvester said:
If you like unripe bud, then find a different strain.
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I do? Can you quote me ???
Again wtf are you talking about? For a 2nd time I'm going to ask you to quote me saying this. Please quote or put your pride to the side, shut up and accept the fact YOU made yourself look like an idiot blindly running to the defense of a man who is not around to tell you, you should just shut up.

TheHarvester said:
You are showing your true ignorance.
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You are showing that you simply are bat shit crazy arguing about a subject that you created and only you are arguing lol.

TheHarvester said:
I was referring to it's bad name regarding mental health not in general. We can make a long list for that.
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you give it a bad name for giving it to people with mental health issues.
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Hey as long as you have someone to argue with though..
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says the guy who created an argument and kept it going solo lol.


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Also explain to be why anyone would want unripe bud as oppose to a strain that holds a similar cannabinoid profile when fully rippen???
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What? Okay man lol.
 
buyyouabeer

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hillbill said:
So what about using 9-59-8?
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You have 4k posts and have been here for 10 years and are asking that? Feel free to give it a try and update the thread on it; what I imagine you will find is the sound of your leaves raining down, dropping onto the floor. If you search Google for something like 'cannabis tissue analysis for macronutrients' you will see graphs that show the plant actually absorbs very little P in veg and flower.
 
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