911 conspiracy theory

tehgenoc1de

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How does a fire on the upper tier of a building make it collapse in and upon itself like a controlled demolition?

Watch the explosions leveling each floor on the way down.
[video=youtube_share;zE_ciITN5sw]http://youtu.be/zE_ciITN5sw[/video]
 

guy incognito

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How does a fire on the upper tier of a building make it collapse in and upon itself like a controlled demolition?

Watch the explosions leveling each floor on the way down.
[video=youtube_share;zE_ciITN5sw]http://youtu.be/zE_ciITN5sw[/video]
1. It was not like a controlled demolition. controlled demolitions work by weaking the structure at the base and letting gravity do the rest.
2. it didn't fall into it's own foot print. part of the tower tipped and fell out. controlled demos dont do this.
3. it didnt fall at free fall speed.

Further more why would you destroy each and every level? why not destroy the bottom level and let the building fall down on itself, at which point the force of the entire building falling creates a dynamic load that is greater than the structure can safely hold and it falls. This is the principle behind a controlled demo. Using gravity to your advantage, and bringing the building down with the least amount of explosives needed.

In fact if you understand the forces behind what makes a controlled demolition possible in the first place you can apply the exact same scenario to the building at the level where the plane hit it. What SHOULD happen when there is structural failure and the upper portion of the building collapses onto one of the floors? Do you think the tower was built to withstand those dynamic forces of a building falling on it? No it wasn't, nor could it be. And each floor that falls adds more mass to the equation which means more force.
 

Kaendar

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What a real steaming pile of llama fecies of a thread. If you dont see that 9/11 was an inside job then you are the one that suffers from mental retardation. Either you are too stupid to put 2 and 2 together, or you in full blown denial.
 

guy incognito

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What a real steaming pile of llama fecies of a thread. If you dont see that 9/11 was an inside job then you are the one that suffers from mental retardation. Either you are too stupid to put 2 and 2 together, or you in full blown denial.
Ah yes, all the rock solid irrefutable evidence points to inside job.

Well the first thing is the Bush family history with the royal saudi family. The same family that Osama Bin Laden was from. On 9/11 after all planes were grounded, Bush had planes chartered to tote the saudis away to safety. Check out the whole family history here http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm

2nd established fact or facts: WTC went under "renovations" just prior to 9/11. Those seemingly meaningless "renovations" were the perfect opportunity to plant demo explosives and wipe the evidence clean. Also, the office of counter terrorism had just perfected a remote control flying program for passenger jets.

"Both the Twin Towers or World Trade Centers 1 & 2 underwent many months of construction renovations before 9/11 and up to the very day of 9/11...

Some of the construction renovations in WTC 1, WTC 2 were in and around the elevator shafts... where all the vertical support columns were located that ran from bedrock to the top floor...

The World Trade Centers even underwent construction renovations directly on the vertical support columns that happened to fail on 9/11...

The construction company that did the many months of construction renovations on the WTC Buildings, some of which were on the vertical support columns that ran from bedrock to the top floor, just happen to of had its CEO appointed by President Bush to the Commission White House Fellows...

The Pentagon too underwent construction renovations before 9/11 and up to the very day of 9/11...

The construction renovations on the Pentagon happened to be exactly on the section of the building involved on 9/11...

The part of the Pentagon involved on 9/11 also just happened to be the only part of the building reinforced for a possible impact..."

3rd- all video of the Pentagon was swiftly confiscated and has not been released to this day. Many of the survivors of 9/11 that started telling their stories were harassed by gov. agents and forced into silence, there is rumor that some have even disappeared completely.

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The collapse of Building 7 was later admitted to be a demolition by owner Larry Silverstein on a PBS interview in Sept. 2002. In a phone call with the FDNY chief regarding building 7, he said "We've had such terrible loss of life; maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse" referring to the demolition of building 7. Larry later explains that "pull it" meant to evacuate firefighters, but there were no firefighters in the building at that time! Also, the FDNY is not equipped or trained to "pull" Building 7 in a controlled demolition as Larry stated. Nor can any building be prepared for such a well-designed demolition in the few minutes after Larry asked to "pull it". Coincidentally, Silverstein assumed a 99-year lease on the WTC Towers on July 24, just six weeks before Sept. 11. After the attacks, Larry boldly asserted he was entitled to twice the insurance policy value because "The two hijacked airliners that struck the 110-story twin towers Sept. 11 were separate ‘occurrences’ for insurance purposes, entitling him to collect twice on $3.6 billion collective worth of the policies, or $7.2 billion." (Do you think he wanted building 7 to collapse? The official FEMA report on WTC 7 concludes "The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time." Nice investigation there!)"

Read about "Operation Northwoods", which shows plans that Lyman Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up in 1962 and approved for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. They proposed launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting an ill-conceived war they intended to launch against Cuba. The plan called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; a commercial plane full of college students to be shot down; a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. They even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation." People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing they needed to launch their war.

Then, did you forget about the anthrax attacks that were mysteriously targeted at the senators that opposed the Patriot Act.

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Where are the flight recorders (black boxes)? The FBI admits the recorders for flights 77 and 93 were found, but were "too damaged to provide any record". As for the WTC planes, two N.Y. City firefighters, Mike Bellone and Nicholas De Masi, claimed that they had found three of these four boxes, but Federal agents took them and told the two men not to mention having found them. Another source from the NTSB also says these boxes "were in fact recovered and were analyzed by the NTSB, but you’d have to get the official word from the FBI as to where they are". (Nice cover-up FBI)"

You want more? I can go on man.
 

guy incognito

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Actually it seems almost all of your facts are unsupported conjecture that you somehow draw the conclusion it was clearly an inside job.
 

RC7

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K and what about the fighter jets that normally keep the whole border secure that are ready to be called out at any given time. My father was in the air force and he knows all about this he was telling me. They just so happened to have ALL of them on a "practice mission" during that time which Never happens. Do you really think they would allow a plane to fly into the buildings? It's complete bullshit the whole thing was setup. Do you really believe that they would not be able to stop a plane hitting the buildings?
 

guy incognito

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"The collapse of Building 7 was later admitted to be a demolition by owner Larry Silverstein on a PBS interview in Sept. 2002. In a phone call with the FDNY chief regarding building 7, he said "We've had such terrible loss of life; maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse" referring to the demolition of building 7. Larry later explains that "pull it" meant to evacuate firefighters, but there were no firefighters in the building at that time! Also, the FDNY is not equipped or trained to "pull" Building 7 in a controlled demolition as Larry stated. Nor can any building be prepared for such a well-designed demolition in the few minutes after Larry asked to "pull it". Coincidentally, Silverstein assumed a 99-year lease on the WTC Towers on July 24, just six weeks before Sept. 11. After the attacks, Larry boldly asserted he was entitled to twice the insurance policy value because "The two hijacked airliners that struck the 110-story twin towers Sept. 11 were separate ‘occurrences’ for insurance purposes, entitling him to collect twice on $3.6 billion collective worth of the policies, or $7.2 billion." (Do you think he wanted building 7 to collapse? The official FEMA report on WTC 7 concludes "The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time." Nice investigation there!)"
BULLSHIT. ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. You are either very ill informed or a liar.

I cannot debate anything with you any longer. You bring nothing but absolute garbage to the table.
 

tehgenoc1de

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It isn't like the government has never lied or created false provocation in order to go to war. Example: Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam
 

blazinkill504

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K and what about the fighter jets that normally keep the whole border secure that are ready to be called out at any given time. My father was in the air force and he knows all about this he was telling me. They just so happened to have ALL of them on a "practice mission" during that time which Never happens. Do you really think they would allow a plane to fly into the buildings? It's complete bullshit the whole thing was setup. Do you really believe that they would not be able to stop a plane hitting the buildings?
an what exactly were those jets suppose to do? blow two giant planes up with people in them over a city which would have prolly caused just as many deaths from fallin pieces of those planes? yea that woulda been reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal smart. what pilots woulda been down with blowin in planes in the air with innocent ppl in em?
 

blazinkill504

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or that says that whole situation was shitty for any kinda homeland defense. would you wanna blow up a plane of ppl that didnt do shit an scatter the wreckage to hit way more than 2 buildins?
 

RC7

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an what exactly were those jets suppose to do? blow two giant planes up with people in them over a city which would have prolly caused just as many deaths from fallin pieces of those planes? yea that woulda been reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal smart. what pilots woulda been down with blowin in planes in the air with innocent ppl in em?
i don't know buddy why don't you ask your good old trusted government
 

Geronimo420

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K and what about the fighter jets that normally keep the whole border secure that are ready to be called out at any given time. My father was in the air force and he knows all about this he was telling me. They just so happened to have ALL of them on a "practice mission" during that time which Never happens. Do you really think they would allow a plane to fly into the buildings? It's complete bullshit the whole thing was setup. Do you really believe that they would not be able to stop a plane hitting the buildings?
Before 9-11 civilian plane were not consider a potential threat witch explain why? no fighter jets were watching for them.
 

RC7

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Go read it then genius. Anybody with a brain would know that the air force would not allow potentially hostile airplanes to go for joy rides, let alone crash into buildings. The proof is all out there if you people are grown men who aren't capable of looking at the clear facts i feel sorry for you. You can only keep your head in the sand for so long but eventually it's going to be your demise. goodluck
 

Mr.jimson

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u people really believe our government would kill its own people to make a reason for war? u believe america would make its own people choose between burning to death and jumping out the window? thats crazy ............ thats not america

on the other hand the statue of liberty seems like the best target
 
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