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MetelKidd74

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HaremMaster said:
well said!
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So can you help me out here I had 10 reg seeds from Dankonomics ( Dream Stardawg ) long story short etc. Sexed them pulled the four males early , 6 out the 10 I was happy , in the same room I had 2 G13s feminised and a THC Bomb that’s was feminised Bomb seeds.
Me being shit , trusting the seed companies and my lackadaisical attitude.
Resulted in My G13s and my female Dream Stardawgs getting pollinated. I grew them out to get the mature beans.
I collected the seeds and have I got it right in thinking that I have either G13xDream or G13 x THC bomb . Then either Stardawg x Stardawg or Stardawg x THC Bomb.
Well anyway i waited six months and I’m on my fourth grow with them.
I can send pictures of the dry bud and the plants. I could Do with some help. Also I don’t know whether I’m flowering them long enough. The pistils on the G13X THC Bomb ( guessing its that cross ) Go mega orange. So I’ve chopped them. Is this normal ? The Stardawg im
Not sure whether it’s a AxB cross or star to THC Bomb. I can send pictures but I don’t have much experience with Sativa s are they supposed to look like they have a few seeds in.
Thanks sorry a mega long ask
 
MrToad69

MrToad69

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Your not going to be able to tell the crosses..it is what it is..Trying to breed multiple strains in the same building at the same time is problematic...The pollen is just too fine.
You need a little jeweller's loop (60x) magnifying glass...chop based on visual of trichomes turning Amber..approx 10-30%
 
HaremMaster

HaremMaster

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MetelKidd74 said:
So can you help me out here I had 10 reg seeds from Dankonomics ( Dream Stardawg ) long story short etc. Sexed them pulled the four males early , 6 out the 10 I was happy , in the same room I had 2 G13s feminised and a THC Bomb that’s was feminised Bomb seeds.
Me being shit , trusting the seed companies and my lackadaisical attitude.
Resulted in My G13s and my female Dream Stardawgs getting pollinated. I grew them out to get the mature beans.
I collected the seeds and have I got it right in thinking that I have either G13xDream or G13 x THC bomb . Then either Stardawg x Stardawg or Stardawg x THC Bomb.
Well anyway i waited six months and I’m on my fourth grow with them.
I can send pictures of the dry bud and the plants. I could Do with some help. Also I don’t know whether I’m flowering them long enough. The pistils on the G13X THC Bomb ( guessing its that cross ) Go mega orange. So I’ve chopped them. Is this normal ? The Stardawg im
Not sure whether it’s a AxB cross or star to THC Bomb. I can send pictures but I don’t have much experience with Sativa s are they supposed to look like they have a few seeds in.
Thanks sorry a mega long ask
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Perhaps others in this thread may have more feedback for you, but my main point for you to consider is that, in terms of what comes next, with no breeding control, the beans produced cannot be considered much more than bag seed. From the information you've given, there's no practical way to determine accurately how much of each of the three cultivars' genetics is in the resulting beans. Any of the beans taken from any one of those plants can either be the result of self-pollination or cross-pollination. As such, all that can be truthfully said about any flower grown from those beans in future is that it may bear some resemblance(s) to one or more traits of those strains or, perhaps, even some characteristics inherited from the long list of traits attributed to the collective lineages of all 3 strains. In other words, you are left with weed that, collectively, can only truthfully be called, "equivalent to bag seed, which may exhibit up to half of the genetic traits attributable to the plant from which each bean was obtained". So, IF you carefully separated and labeled the beans according to which of the three strains they were harvested from in that first pollinated crop.. then that's all you have to work with. and all that can truthfully be claimed about any bud grown from those seeds in the future, e.g. 'Dream-Stardawg-Mongrel', G13-Mongrel', 'THCBomb-Mongrel'.. looking on the positive side, of course, any of which could be considered a rare and enjoyable smoke, LOL
 
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MetelKidd74

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HaremMaster said:
Perhaps others in this thread may have more feedback for you, but my main point for you to consider is that, in terms of what comes next, with no breeding control, the beans produced cannot be considered much more than bag seed. From the information you've given, there's no practical way to determine accurately how much of each of the three cultivars' genetics is in the resulting beans. Any of the beans taken from any one of those plants can either be the result of self-pollination or cross-pollination. As such, all that can be truthfully said about any flower grown from those beans in future is that it may bear some resemblance(s) to one or more traits of those strains or, perhaps, even some characteristics inherited from the long list of traits attributed to the collective lineages of all 3 strains. In other words, you are left with weed that, collectively, can only truthfully be called, "equivalent to bag seed, which may exhibit up to half of the genetic traits attributable to the plant from which each bean was obtained". So, IF you carefully separated and labeled the beans according to which of the three strains they were harvested from in that first pollinated crop.. then that's all you have to work with. and all that can truthfully be claimed about any bud grown from those seeds in the future, e.g. 'Dream-Stardawg-Mongrel', G13-Mongrel', 'THCBomb-Mongrel'.. looking on the positive side, of course, any of which could be considered a rare and enjoyable smoke, LOL
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Thank you. So I’m on my fourth grow of bag seedand there are two/ three plants that differ in characteristics.
So if I sent pictures of the plants I have flowering and then the bud. Would you be able to tell which out of the three they may be. I’m pretty certain one of them has the Blueberry from The Dankonomics Star as it’s smells of Shining Silver Haze ( Washing up liquid to me ).
it’s bugging me ( I need to know if I’m way off ) in guessing which of the three plants is what I’m chonging because the washing up liquid one is lethal
 
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MetelKidd74

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MrToad69 said:
Your not going to be able to tell the crosses..it is what it is..Trying to breed multiple strains in the same building at the same time is problematic...The pollen is just too fine.
You need a little jeweller's loop (60x) magnifying glass...chop based on visual of trichomes turning Amber..approx 10-30%
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I have a USB scope. I’m on the fourth grow out of my bag seeds and there are 3 different plants. One of them is definitely Sativa Dominant G13 female bean, the second is small and throws out some mental orange and yellow pistels. The 3rd the best one I’ve only seen twice. Just my luck, is frosty as fuck , Compact and people bugging me for a try.
so If I sent pictures of the plants blooming right now, and the buds from them ( I’m harvesting at different times ) would you have a go at guessing their parents ( it’s bugging me )
 
MrToad69

MrToad69

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I couldnt guess in a
Million years...Actually, I'd be better off guessing that "you cant guess either" :)

Separate each of the beans from the plants, label them and grow them out ..( be sure to do a better job of monitoring and documentation) and do a smoke test between them..that'll be your best bet..Then you can determine if you think there are differences..

point is: When you combine the genes of two parents..the outcome can be anything..sometimes what you dont expect...even if you know the lineage
 
HaremMaster

HaremMaster

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Hey, MetelKidd.. what I had said in my earlier reply, and what Mr.Toad has also said.. sort and label your beans, grow and flower 'em.. if there are special ones you really want to get more bud from badly enough then you can try revegging any plant after harvest as a mother plant to get genetically identical clones from.. grow and flower as many of those clones as you can to get more of the bud you like so much. If you want to keep it going, for many grows over time, you'll want to replace your original mother(s) with a new one(s) every year, or so.. pick the strongest plant(s) from subsequent clone run(s) at the end of the their veg cycle(s) to replace your old mother(s).
 
MrToad69

MrToad69

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I think Harem Master hit upon the best plan ..Whether he intended to or not :)

"If"'knowing the genetic lines is important to you...Push the "restart"'button sorta speak... Reveg all if the plants you intend to use for breeding and start a whole new breeding cycle with them..You
Already know which are males and females...just be sure to cut off foilage and destroy seeds on that plant that have already matured..
Take cuttings or repollenate as you require...and this time..Remember to document..make sure males are not in the same room or even building for that matter...Them this time..You will know what the genetics of your beans are.
:)

Toad
 
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