A British Journalist Nails It ...

Jointsmith said:
Vi, I've heard you railing against abortion before.

have you ever been pregnant?

As I'm guessing you haven't I suggest you STFU until you've been in a situation where you have to choose what you do with your womb.
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What a lame-ass comment. :wall:

Have you ever read about Margaret Sanger and/or the origin of Planned Parenthood? Have you ever studied eugenics as practiced by the Nazis?

Vi
 
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ViRedd said:
What a lame-ass comment. :wall:

Have you ever read about Margaret Sanger and/or the origin of Planned Parenthood? Have you ever studied eugenics as practiced by the Nazis?

Vi
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My point is that you don't have a womb, you'll never have to make the CHOICE, you are IGNORANT on the subject.
 
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No kidding, that's amazing. I had never heard that before. Signed Med.
 
Jointsmith said:
My point is that you don't have a womb, you'll never have to make the CHOICE, you are IGNORANT on the subject.
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Whom ever you are ... I don't NEED a womb to have an opinion. You're using the feminist tactic of introducing a straw man into the discussion. I suppose the fact that I've never served in the military doesn't give me to right to comment on the military too, right? Hey, I've never been Black, so I can't comment on civil rights either?

Come on .. if you want to debate the issues, then please keep the cheap comments and jabs out of the equation, OK?

Now then, in your opinion, when does life begin ... and what KIND of life is it when it DOES begin?

On second thought, don't bother to comment here ... I'll start a thread on the issue and we can debate the issue there. Thanks ... :)


Vi
 

Vi says:
You're using the feminist tactic of introducing a straw man into the discussion. I

So, are you a feminist or an anti-feminist? Your tacit approval of Palin puts you in a precarious position, BaHaaaaHaaaa. You're a joke man, a joke.

 
medicineman said:
Vi says:
You're using the feminist tactic of introducing a straw man into the discussion. I

So, are you a feminist or an anti-feminist? Your tacit approval of Palin puts you in a precarious position, BaHaaaaHaaaa. You're a joke man, a joke.
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Please define what you mean by the term "feminist" and I'll answer your question. You HAVE thought the term through, haven't you? bongsmilie

Vi
 
ViRedd said:
Please define what you mean by the term "feminist" and I'll answer your question. You HAVE thought the term through, haven't you? bongsmilie

Vi
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You on the one hand extoll the virtues of feminism and then in another thread you accuse someone of using feminism tactics to argue against you. What the fuck are you saying, "I was for feminism before I was against it". You can explain it if you care, I dont. I just see this as another whacky attack against yourself, you are losing it old boy.
 
Feminist = liberal man or liberal woman approved woman, eg., liberal woman, victimized woman, minority woman, ugly woman, non-threatening woman
 
Fiminism was origionally the fight for 'EQUALLITY' between Men and Women, true Feminism Died with the introduction of Equal Rights.

Nowerdays you see what I would call 'Femi-Nazism' which is things like 'Sex in the City' where women think they are superior to men (if there was a show where men talked about women they way that these ladies talk about men there'd be outrage).

And Vi, I'm not a feminist, (I'm an 'Equalist', to coin a phrase) but I know people who have had to make the 'Choice' and I know a person who has used a straightened out coat hanger to do a home Abortion, it ain't pretty.

You talk about it as if you're either 'Pro-Life' or 'Pro-Choice', but I know for a WOMAN (i.e. not you Vi, someone who this would actually affect) it often doesn't feel like they have a 'choice'
 
Jointsmith said:
Fiminism was origionally the fight for 'EQUALLITY' between Men and Women, true Feminism Died with the introduction of Equal Rights.

Nowerdays you see what I would call 'Femi-Nazism' which is things like 'Sex in the City' where women think they are superior to men (if there was a show where men talked about women they way that these ladies talk about men there'd be outrage).

And Vi, I'm not a feminist, (I'm an 'Equalist', to coin a phrase) but I know people who have had to make the 'Choice' and I know a person who has used a straightened out coat hanger to do a home Abortion, it ain't pretty.

You talk about it as if you're either 'Pro-Life' or 'Pro-Choice', but I know for a WOMAN (i.e. not you Vi, someone who this would actually affect) it often doesn't feel like they have a 'choice'
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Well, thanks for that post, Jointsmith, nicely thought out.

I've always been for equal rights for women. In the old days, women who had the same jobs as men, in the same company, earned less than the men. It was assumed that men had families to support and women did not. That never computed in my brain, even as a child. Same with Blacks being treated as second class citizens.

On the abortion issue: Personally, I think its the destruction of human life and I'm against it. I don't think the federal government should be involved in the issue at all and any abortion laws should be left up to state legislators to decide. Under the present system, folks like me are FORCED to pay for abortions though our federal income tax system in subsidies paid to Planned Parenthood. Welcome to fascist America.

Vi
 
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