A Cannabinerd's Journey

eastcoastmo said:

Oh NOOOOO! Oh man, this makes me a very sad sad panda I really hope they pick up mate!
And happy birthday too bro, I hope your day gets better...with some beers or whatever you like to drink
Woah, that ghostrider is some seriously frosty shit...woo hoo!

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It's bumming me out for sure! It looks like they might make it, I'm keeping an eye on them, tad bit limp still but not dead at least and thanks bro! A little bit of brandy will help me through today, and hey, knowledge is power and I know not to do this again even though it was the fastest veg I've had in my life lol

Macmac124 said:

hey been reading up on youre journal in im a soil guy that uses gh organic but damn youre killing it i got som maxi gro laying around what should i feed my clones that are rooted i read gh recommends 500-700 ppms .5tsp is that correct or should i go lower then that .im trying to swicth to hydro to quicken things up and get better yield any help is appreciated

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Hey man right on I love organic growing! I'd start at around there, maybe .8ec and work up from there. I'm noticing some strains HATE maxigro in hydro starting out, not enough potassium at all. I'm actually going to see how maxibloom does for my mendo breath since the day I gave them maxigro at 700ppm the main stem went purple and leaves lightened up. It's happened more times than I can count and it's got to be a maxigro problem. Lots of people have success running maxibloom only, but I think maxigro is needed also, just not positive of what ratio would be best for a general purpose nute mix.

Macmac124 said:

View attachment 3599900 This is what i can do in promix with organic nutes ....

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This looks great bro! I mean, if you're doing well with organics, just maybe try a couple hydro plants so you have the dank organics going if there's any issues. Some times its a pain in the ass with hydro, different mediums and strains all play a role in the outcome, I love organic because it's great and doesn't need much dialing in

AlphaPhase said:

It's bumming me out for sure! It looks like they might make it, I'm keeping an eye on them, tad bit limp still but not dead at least and thanks bro! A little bit of brandy will help me through today, and hey, knowledge is power and I know not to do this again even though it was the fastest veg I've had in my life lol

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Oh good man, fingers crossed they make a full recovery!! I bet you won't do it again, bugger that lol.
Awesome mate, well have an extra brandy for me and enjoy a big fat spliff too

AlphaPhase said:

Hey man right on I love organic growing! I'd start at around there, maybe .8ec and work up from there. I'm noticing some strains HATE maxigro in hydro starting out, not enough potassium at all. I'm actually going to see how maxibloom does for my mendo breath since the day I gave them maxigro at 700ppm the main stem went purple and leaves lightened up. It's happened more times than I can count and it's got to be a maxigro problem. Lots of people have success running maxibloom only, but I think maxigro is needed also, just not positive of what ratio would be best for a general purpose nute mix.

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You try slica early on for the potassium def you're plant look damn good to me and for the price and application rate of maxi gro with a couple rez what other nute would you run ?

AlphaPhase said:

This looks great bro! I mean, if you're doing well with organics, just maybe try a couple hydro plants so you have the dank organics going if there's any issues. Some times its a pain in the ass with hydro, different mediums and strains all play a role in the outcome, I love organic because it's great and doesn't need much dialing in

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And also I love the ease of dirt I can't get get a gram a watt for shit after talking with others in the hydro store I go to they go three, four weeks veg in hydro and do a couple ozs a plant if I did a three week veg I be lucky to get a zip a plant .unless there just lying about the size of their dicks..lmao just wanna try to get my bang for my buck I seen you put seedlings in cups with hydroton do you feed seedlings that small with maxi and if so what ec I got a couple double rainbows I like to try like that

Macmac124 said:

hey been reading up on youre journal in im a soil guy that uses gh organic but damn youre killing it i got som maxi gro laying around what should i feed my clones that are rooted i read gh recommends 500-700 ppms .5tsp is that correct or should i go lower then that .im trying to swicth to hydro to quicken things up and get better yield any help is appreciated

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Me and AP are pals in real life, i use the maxiseries in dirt,coco,soil, and other hydro setups. You really can't go wrong starting rooted cuts off with 1/4 tsp/gal. Its the safest thing to do.

AlphaPhase said:

It's bumming me out for sure! It looks like they might make it, I'm keeping an eye on them, tad bit limp still but not dead at least and thanks bro! A little bit of brandy will help me through today, and hey, knowledge is power and I know not to do this again even though it was the fastest veg I've had in my life lol

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They'll be alright dude! I was gonna put a bet on it last night when you told me, but you would lose. I don't like making unfair bets

You also feed the seedling I know I'm probably bugging the shit out if you but I wanna get a couple bubble buckets going to test this hydroponics out

Macmac124 said:

oh yeah what about them little babies in hydroton would you feed them

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Again, 1/4 tsp/gal is going to be the safest. But usually my freshly rooted cuts can take it even higher. Lets let @AlphaPhase chime in on what he's been doing lately. He's running more of your traditional hydro setup right now. I think he's starting out a tad higher
But i've been using the maxi on and off ever since it came out, and 1/4 tsp/gal works everytime.

Macmac124 said:

You also feed the seedling I know I'm probably bugging the shit out if you but I wanna get a couple bubble buckets going to test this hydroponics out

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If i'm starting seeds in an inert medium, I mix up a VERY mild nute solution. Like, an EC of around 0.3.
I could tell you higher, but I don't want you to blame me if you burn/kill your seedlings

eastcoastmo said:

Oh good man, fingers crossed they make a full recovery!! I bet you won't do it again, bugger that lol.
Awesome mate, well have an extra brandy for me and enjoy a big fat spliff too

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Thanks bro, by the grace of God I didn't even lose 1 plant, all 18 survived, I did lose 2 tops though, I had a full tote full of plants and was carrying them to the flower room and fell into a wall and decapitated some tops, last night was stressful lol, but all seems ok. They'll probably not yield nearly as much but it'll be better than nothing!

AlphaPhase said:

Thanks bro, by the grace of God I didn't even lose 1 plant, all 18 survived, I did lose 2 tops though, I had a full tote full of plants and was carrying them to the flower room and fell into a wall and decapitated some tops, last night was stressful lol, but all seems ok. They'll probably not yield nearly as much but it'll be better than nothing!

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Awesome news buddy, very happy to hear that!! I hope you didn't hurt yourself when you fell?
With any luck yesterday may have just slowed them down a bit so your height issue may not be a big problem

Macmac124 said:

You try slica early on for the potassium def you're plant look damn good to me and for the price and application rate of maxi gro with a couple rez what other nute would you run ?

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I've tried silica on and off, I like it for veg but don't notice much difference after week 3 of flower. I just use maxigro, maxibloom, Epsom salts and a little calmag, but I'm thinking about maybe dropping the calmag. I'm not sure if that's what had been looking out my newly rooted clones and causing the potassium deficiencies, I'm going to try some tinkering around to see if I can fix it lol

Macmac124 said:

And also I love the ease of dirt I can't get get a gram a watt for shit after talking with others in the hydro store I go to they go three, four weeks veg in hydro and do a couple ozs a plant if I did a three week veg I be lucky to get a zip a plant .unless there just lying about the size of their dicks..lmao just wanna try to get my bang for my buck I seen you put seedlings in cups with hydroton do you feed seedlings that small with maxi and if so what ec I got a couple double rainbows I like to try like that

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It's very possible to get a gram per watt, even in promix. Hydro definitely will veg the plants alot faster, itll shave off 2 or 3 weeks easy, but end results will be similar. Yield is just strain dependant so growing an OG strain is REALLY hard to get a gpw but doable. I veg for 4 or 5 weeks and get 3-4 Oz a plant on average, so 9 plants at 3oz = 27oz a light, but a heavier yielding strain would get 4oz, so 36oz a light, which is 1gpw. I think I start seeds at about 500-700ppm. I don't really measure it, I just use my res water, dilute it a little, maybe 1/2 res water have tap water, so it's probably around 600ppm. Whats weird is maxi works killer for me when I start seeds, but the first week of transplanting a new clone, it gives me issues, I haven't figured out if I'm over or under feeding or just the maxigro isn't too good in hydro for starting clones I'll figure it out soon I'm sure

Aeroknow said:

They'll be alright dude! I was gonna put a bet on it last night when you told me, but you would lose. I don't like making unfair bets

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Lol You were right bro, they're still alive, I ended up saying fuck the Temps and turned the 2 lights off. I also propped them up with the trellis, I lost a couple tops from my carelessness but that seems to be all, I know it'll stunt them but it's better than getting nothing and having no plants to flower

Macmac124 said:

You also feed the seedling I know I'm probably bugging the shit out if you but I wanna get a couple bubble buckets going to test this hydroponics out

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I also use beneficial bacteria. Since you're doing bubble buckets you'll NEED to do sterile or a beneficial res. I use hydroguard, pondzyme and microbial algae clean. These products fight off disease such as root rot. I recommend it over keeping the res sterile using products like bleach of Dutch master zone.

Aeroknow said:

Again, 1/4 tsp/gal is going to be the safest. But usually my freshly rooted cuts can take it even higher. Lets let @AlphaPhase chime in on what he's been doing lately. He's running more of your traditional hydro setup right now. I think he's starting out a tad higher
But i've been using the maxi on and off ever since it came out, and 1/4 tsp/gal works everytime.

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1/4 tsp gets me at about 350ppm and 450ppm including my tap, I think I'm going to try this with the mendo breath I'm about to put in the veg tray, I've been hand watering and got purple stems. Can't for the life of me figure out why, happens every time with clones but not seeds lol

eastcoastmo said:

Awesome news buddy, very happy to hear that!! I hope you didn't hurt yourself when you fell?
With any luck yesterday may have just slowed them down a bit so your height issue may not be a big problem

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I am OK lol, I tripped over the dogs food bowl and fell into the side of the house with the tote and the tote broke my fall lol, kind of pinched some branches between the tote and the house though lol. That'll be so awesome if they don't stretch much

AlphaPhase said:

I am OK lol, I tripped over the dogs food bowl and fell into the side of the house with the tote and the tote broke my fall lol, kind of pinched some branches between the tote and the house though lol. That'll be so awesome if they don't stretch much

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Ha ha oh dear, glad you're ok mate
I'm sure your girls will still be monsters, you really only need a week of slower growth to keep them in check, you'll be sweet bro

AlphaPhase said:

Hey man right on I love organic growing! I'd start at around there, maybe .8ec and work up from there. I'm noticing some strains HATE maxigro in hydro starting out, not enough potassium at all. I'm actually going to see how maxibloom does for my mendo breath since the day I gave them maxigro at 700ppm the main stem went purple and leaves lightened up. It's happened more times than I can count and it's got to be a maxigro problem. Lots of people have success running maxibloom only, but I think maxigro is needed also, just not positive of what ratio would be best for a general purpose nute mix.

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Funny...i have both the gh maxi gonna do the all bloom formula. Seen some good stuff and only 1 fert! Btw happy late bday! Sucks about the veg table!!! I knowwwwww you didn't want to lose any roots. Did you cut them? Probably wont shock them as much as tugging them