a lot of my fellow tokens are against the war in afganistan

oh and before you say " oh they joined because they thought they could go and kill people and it'd be fun" stfu. my friend told me his specific reason for joining is because the government would go to war with or with out him. and wether he thought the war was right he knew one thing. if none joined everyone would have to. and he'd rather be the one then someone who should be home raising there kids or going to college. he did it because he gets thats how americans get to keep there way of life.
 
your getting confused. not everyone they give medical care too is injured. some are sick. some injured there selves. they'd help treat people for anything not just war shit. dumb fuck. and that docent make every marine infantry. it means they can act infantry if shit really went down
 

BA142

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I have multiple friends that have went on tours to Iraq/Afghanistan and they have told me the opposite. Lots of sitting around, guarding poppy fields, etc. Every once in a while they'll kill a few "terrorists" with an RPG.

What a great cause and a great use of taxpayer money during these cash strapped times. Thanks George!
 
it depends where they were stationed dummy. some places theres a lot to do and in some places they guard dirt. have you heard of helm end provide. thats where my buddy went and theres a lot of action and other stuff in that part
 

dozer777

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My son did two tours over there. Saw lot's of bad shit. The media doesn't tell you half the shit our boys go through. Until you've been there and experienced it first hand i'd keep my mouth shut and support our troops.
 

stoned cockatoo

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oh and before you say " oh they joined because they thought they could go and kill people and it'd be fun" stfu. my friend told me his specific reason for joining is because the government would go to war with or with out him. and wether he thought the war was right he knew one thing. if none joined everyone would have to. and he'd rather be the one then someone who should be home raising there kids or going to college. he did it because he gets thats how americans get to keep there way of life.
Bulllshit. If the gov had no army to go to war with they wouldn't be able to go to war.

If everyone took it upon them selves to say no to a bullshit war there wouldn't be any.

I'd like to think any government trying to pull a conscription these days would be crushed
 

Wordz

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My son did two tours over there. Saw lot's of bad shit. The media doesn't tell you half the shit our boys go through. Until you've been there and experienced it first hand i'd keep my mouth shut and support our troops.
why should we support your dumb ass son? The only reason he saw bad shit is because he had the brilliant idea to join. He never did anything to protect my freedom.
 

Wordz

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being in the military is just like being on welfare but you're dumb enough to work for poverty.
 

ChesusRice

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Bulllshit. If the gov had no army to go to war with they wouldn't be able to go to war.

If everyone took it upon them selves to say no to a bullshit war there wouldn't be any.

I'd like to think any government trying to pull a conscription these days would be crushed
If they had reinstituted the draft

There would of been no war
 

StevenSD420

Active Member
Until you've been there and experienced it first hand i'd keep my mouth shut and support our troops.
Lol; you're son is "sacrificing" himself and you tell us not to exercise our freedom of speech and a right to be an individual? yeah get the fuck out with that bullshit; your son is a murderer and would be tried and convicted for it in international court if it wasn't for some bullshit legislative protecting him.

why should we support your dumb ass son?
this is the one question that never gets answered completely and honestly.
 

dozer777

Active Member
Okay first time on here. My son lost someone very close to him on 9-11 in the towers. Wanted to join the military the next day. I tried for 3 months to talk him out of it. No GO! Say what you want you un patriotic ass holes! But if you live and breath in the U S you better be thanking our troops for your freedoms. Ya Bitch all you want about our government sucks but our sons are trying to make a difference! Nieve as they may be . Kids trying to do the right thing! Fuck all you negative assholes won't come here again!
 

Dr Kynes

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your link is not to the constitution or even a discussion of the constitution, its a policy wonk yapping about what he thinks the constitution allows. he is wrong.

the constitution allows for the president, and the congress to:

negotiate trade with foreign powers
negotiate treaties and territory with foreign powers
tax foreign imports and us exports to foreign lands
defend the nation and it's constituent states against enemies, both foreign and domestic
regulate (make regular, not control) trade between states within the union
ensure fair dealings between states and between individuals across state lines

nowhere does the constitution institute a power to police foreign lands, send US citizens to foreign lands as hessians for a foreign power, or loan out us citizens as cheap construction labour in far off lands.

LESS involvement with foreign affairs, not more is what we need, and the constitution demands.

when you cut through all the bullshit and double talk this is what your linked article gives us:

US soldiers fighting to defend a french colonial province's authoritarian imperial regime from the people who live there (vietnam)
US soldiers fighting for the stabilization of an indefensible border separating 2 sides of a civil war, and keeping these two sides from fighting at our expense for 60 years (korea)
US soldiers fighting against ALL SIDES in an internal power struggle that no side can win (somalia)
US soldiers fighting and dying to on behalf of an invading force hostile to the US, and aiding it's attempt to annex the land of a friendly foreign power (kosovo)
US soldiers trying to execute a failed program and policy designed to force people to adopt western values and society, when they just dont want it. (iraq, afghanistan, libya and coming soon, iran and syria)

WW1 and WW2 were mutual defense treaty operations, and fall within the scope of constitutionally granted congressional and presidential authority.
 

Dr Kynes

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Also a troop saying "fuck you to the military"

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an asshole declaring that he deliberately engaged in criminal murder in the theater of conflict, outside the rules of engagement for his own satisfaction. wow. yes thats every soldier. every last one of them.

that twat should have been in the stockade, not on democracy now! he enhances the credibility of Gloria Ironbox's "fuck the military, all soldiers are brutal savages and war criminals" agenda so she is pleased to offer this turd a soapbox.

if that pile of garbage did any of the things he claims, he would be arrested by the fbi, transferred to a military court and made to answer for his crimes. since that didnt happen his tall tales are most likely bullshit, just like John "I Served in Vietnam" Kerry's fish stories about firefights in laos and witnessing murder of villagers and rice farmers.

i call bullshit.
 

OGEvilgenius

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why should we respect our troops? because they put they're life on the line, take shit from anyone and everyone thats a higher rank, a lot of them get shot at, they always help the people out in the countries they're in (given they're not an ass hole, of course theres ague that rape and murder but thats the same everywhere in the whole world) they have to go through so many horrors and tramatic experiences. they volunteer for this too because they know its right. yes theres ague that do it for the college money ( thats the only real benefit ) everything else that they get for free is only while they're in the military. BUT THE THING YOU SHOULD RESPECT MOST IS THAT THEY GO THROUGH ALL THAT FOR LITTLE FUCKING PUNKS LIKE YOU. my friend has nightmares all the time now! he spent the night at my house one night while he was on leave after a combat tour and woke up screaming from a nightmare he had about the war he went to fight in. but he never complained about any of that. Keep in mind he and a lot of other men in woman go through this for shit pay, temporary benefits and SOME money for college. so next time you want to disrespect a veteran stfu and think about how lucky you are that people volunteer to do this shit so little spoiled shits like you don't have to. you make me sick
Actually he's fighting for the same people actively trying to oppress most of the world. Not for you or I.

Of course he doesn't know that.

Besides, there's a lot of opium and hash to be sold for black ops money. Marines are useful for guarding the poppy fields.
 
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