a mediocre shroom garden thread
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Olive Drab Green
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There's an easier way than PF tek/BRF cakes if you care to skip sterilization and go straighy to inoculation. I buy sterilized, filtered rye berry spawn bags with self-healing injection ports for spawn and pre-pasteurized mushroom compost for bulk. Use contam-resistant, highly rhizomorphic, and aggressively growing strains for your first time. Here:
https://www.shroomsupply.com/mushroom-grow-kits/mushroom-cultivation-kits?zenid=dcdjssaje9uhk4raeau5hap8f0
This is the full kit; I just use two of their spawn bags for 5lbs of their mushroom compost, which contains horse manure, exotic zoo manure, organic coconut coir, vermiculite, and gypsum.
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Compost
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https://www.shroomsupply.com/bulk-substrates/pre-pasteurized-mushroom-compost
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Grain spawn
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https://www.shroomsupply.com/grain-spawn/sterilized-substrate-organic-rye-berries
I am currently spawning Mazatapec/Mazatec variety of cubes, and I also have Huautla, from Huautla de Jimenez, Oaxaca.
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P. cubensis spore menu
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http://sporeworks.com/Psilocybe-cubensis-Spore-Syringes/?mega=y
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Mazatapec/Mazatec/"The Maz"
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http://sporeworks.com/Psilocybe-cubensis-Mazatapec-Spore-Syringe-Microscopy-Kit.html
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Huautla
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http://sporeworks.com/Psilocybe-cubensis-Huautla-Spore-Syringe-Microscopy-Kit.html
iHearAll
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I've picked wild mushrooms that grew on chicken manure and sawdust in tall grass thinking they were giant cubensis. I dried them and ate them without cleaning them. Bad idea! Lol duh. Anyway, they gave me diarrhea and vomiting for 24 hours. It was pretty awful. So, I stopped hunting wild shrooms for consumption. I mean, I realize it could have been bugs or bacteria that caused the sickness or an all around cocktail of "kill all humans"
Olive Drab Green
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What's the strain again? I'll get you a print (I'll even take it on a glass slide) as soon as I can fruit and flush.
iHearAll
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Treasure coast. Foil is fine in my experience. I spray iso on the foil and a small tupperware container then let it evaporate in a glove box, lay the print or prints on the foil and seal the tupperware for 24 hours. I then take the cap off and let the print dry completely then fold the foil in half and place it in a fresh baggy, like don't let air into the bag at all but rather slide the foil in without disturbing the bag as much as possible. They haven't given me contamination this far. Some ppl bleach the baggy but I think its over kill and asking for mutations.
iHearAll
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Then when I want to make a syringe of the print I get some water boiling and suck up boiling water with the syringe a few times, 3-5 times, then leave the last suck in the syringe and cap it with a needle cap that I put a few droplets of iso in and let evaporate. Let it cool off to room temp and squirt the syringe into the baggy. Unfold the foil without opening the bag and push the water around the print with my thumbs. Then lastly, suck the spore filled water back into the syringe or syringes
throwdo
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Yall are inspiring me to grow some mushies soon
macsnax
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iHearAll
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Its pretty easy to keep a super small garden for a hobbyist. The upfront costs of materials drives people away though. Pressure cooker, jars, glove box, fruiting chamber, THEN getting spores bla bla bla. Glove box isn't necessary for basic knock up and fruit em technique though.
macsnax
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How much to do it right,? I've looked around but haven't got too serious about it yet. 5-6 hundo?
Olive Drab Green
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Less expensive than growing weed. 10-20 bucks for a syringe, $32 for a bulk kit. Nowhere near $100. Unless you buy multiple syringes and a closet for it.
If you do PF Tek/BRF cakes, the most expensive part is the pressure cooker, syringes, and shoulderless mason jars.
Just so we're clear, @iHearAll is the expert. I just understand the theory. This is my first run.
macsnax
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Nice, that's not bad, to be able to produce something that can be hard to find.
Olive Drab Green
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Olive Drab Green
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Well, the biggest thing is sterilization. If you get any contaminants that colonize, you can make someone sick. So be careful. Everything must be sterile.
Olive Drab Green
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iHearAll
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so i can get a pressure cooker for 80-120$ depending on the size. for a small gardener like myself, the smallest 80$ pressure cooker is just fine. it holds 7 half pint jars or 12-14 quarter pint jars. Mine's electric so i just dial up the timer on it at night and forget about it till the next day around 12-24 hours later.
the jars are cheap, they cost 8-10$ for a dozen.. no matter the size... also, depending on where you go. Walmart is the best in my shopping experience. Dont try using anything bigger than half pint jars for BRF tek because they are known to stall growth and be a waste of time. You'll want a few dozen jars, i use 2 dozen half pints and just got some qtr pints to use as PC safe petri dishes. so that was around 30$ after taxes.
An automatic SGFC (shotgun fruiting chamber) is the price of 2 lowes bags of perlite (~12$ total), a clear storage bin around 60qt size (~$15 on a bad day), best walmart fish pump available ($12ish) you want one that's silent, micropore surgical tape (~6$ for two rolls at walmart) to cover all of the holes above the perlite line so gnats dont get in and the oxygen from the fish pump will build up densely while maintaining 100% humidty. i mean you can mist and fan too with an automatic and i would encourage you to do so until you have faith your chamber is truely automatic.
you'll want aluminum foil for various parts of the project, like covering the BRF jars when sterilizing so steam doesnt enter the jar and ruin your substrate as well as to place the cakes on when placing in the chamber.. oh, and to take prints
lighting is ambient or an energy efficient LED bulb and timer @ 12-12 but seriously ambient lighting is just fine so i wont add that up in total.
umm. a few solo cups or something to elevate the chamber is a good idea too.
oh. and brown rice flour and vermiculite is about 8-10$ for two bags flour and one bag of verm.
anyway, you're looking at around 200$ or less for all the parts to build and grow well enough to get consistent/predictable results. as you may see around the web, you can get away with much cheaper fruiting chambers but some experience with a SGFC will help you get the average environment needed to grow indoors or outside.
iHearAll
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soups on and video games will commence momentarily ... oh, basic info that not everyone knows until they're puking.. the vermiculite should be completely removed if you are going to consume your caps!! I have eaten a shroom that had just a little vermiculite on it and i felt like my gut was being cut open. it was awful! so wash your shroomies under cold water while theyre fresh, if you wait until theyre dry, the vermiculite will be dried into the stem and is pretty tough to get out. a girlfriend with fingernails helps. lol.
hey, so with all the fuss about the current office holding party being on a crack down in the US and random hackers on this website threatening members, i'm just going to order some maz's from sporeworks in my next order, i mean they're super cheap anyway!! i had a revelation while taking a dump and watching videos of people getting innocently swat team'd because hackers set them up.. fucked world..
so thick... so white... is that what she said?? lmao
hey, so with all the fuss about the current office holding party being on a crack down in the US and random hackers on this website threatening members, i'm just going to order some maz's from sporeworks in my next order, i mean they're super cheap anyway!! i had a revelation while taking a dump and watching videos of people getting innocently swat team'd because hackers set them up.. fucked world..
iHearAll
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here's my previous flush on one of the cakes while i was out of town. the other cakes i just quickly picked and started drying. they were FAT. that's 50g wet, which is pretty average of a dosage. could have been more but i like to pick an entire flush instead of letting the little guys mature.
Olive Drab Green
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Bro. Spores aren't illegal. There's no risk. Why don't I just give you a print for nothing? And, if possible, I'd really like to get a print from you, if you wouldn't mind. If it's not cool, alright, but there's no risk.