A Sleu of Questions for the Answering - Please Don’t Be Shy

vostok said:

You do need to know how bad it is ...on par with the French or London water tho recycled 12 times..I'd have London water before Los Angles or Denver..
Scotlands even Norwegian Water ....BEST IN THE WORLD
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This is very interesting. Thanks!
Got me to wondering... what does it mean? Are there any trends?
The tobacco states seem to have low calcium. Looks like wheat likes hard water.
Or maybe it's a PH thing.
Hmm... :eyesmoke:
 
best advice I can offer you here and its true

avoid freaking out with the amount of potential Hydrogen (PH) on your soil leaf it to the soil to fix even avoid reading the runoff
 
Chunky Stool said:
This is very interesting. Thanks!
Got me to wondering... what does it mean? Are there any trends?
The tobacco states seem to have low calcium. Looks like wheat likes hard water.
Or maybe it's a PH thing.
Hmm... :eyesmoke:
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click the image I linked to the govt site a goood reed
 
vostok said:
best advice I can offer you here and its true

avoid freaking out with the amount of potential Hydrogen (PH) on your soil leaf it to the soil to fix even avoid reading the runoff
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Definitely. I stopped checking runoff water now since I’ve made the water switch. The 2 stunted plants are recovering late but I’ll still run them out and use them for hash/butter.

The only reason I even started checking runoff pH was when I noticed something was off with 2 specific plants and couldn’t figure out why: but those 2 plants had runoff pH in the 8.9-9.5 range. Compared to the (same soil/same feed regimen) other plants, where the runoff was at 6.9-7.1. Now the only difference was I used spring water on the other plants.

Those particular plants I fed with boiled tap water. Also had oranges added to help “remove” chloramine supposedly. I don’t use the boiled tap water and/or use oranges anymore.

Thanks to a suggestion made earlier...I’m going to try running a 50/50 mix of unboiled tap water and spring watery next watering. I’ll still bubble the 10 gallons of water for 3-5hrs depending on if I have to leave and am gone for an extended period. Will post how things look after trying it out for 1-2 watering.
 
vostok said:

You do need to know how bad it is ...on par with the French or London water tho recycled 12 times..I'd have London water before Los Angles or Denver..
but Scotland' and Norwegian water .... is the BEST IN THE WORLD
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I agree some states are backwards but in those states it should be well know that the water is poison.

A while back someone blamed their water but a grower a mile down the road on the same system a grower was nailing it with their tap.

Quite often it isnt the water and easy to rule out on Riu as there wont be growers in your area that manage to grow with it. If you can find a hydro grower who uses tap water on your system then instantly its not the water.

There are easy logical ways to rule out water problems, why i splash ph 8 chlorinated water all over my soil.

If you have high ppm then more investigation but simple chlorine and ph is fast becoming one of those myths that growers bitch on about because their plants are sick.

Too long on these boards, if you drink it its fine for plants.
 
vostok said:
the greatest cause of stunted plants is without doubt =OVERWATERING


(on my gravestone) ..lol
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Completely agree but these were definitely not overwatered. The 2 different seeds somehow were both bad (highly unlikely), the tap water is suspect (most likely), and/or the soil is bad (not likely).

I’m leaning towards tap water based off what I’ve learned the last few weeks.
 
RayRay747 said:
Completely agree but these were definitely not overwatered. The 2 different seeds somehow were both bad (highly unlikely), the tap water is suspect (most likely), and/or the soil is bad (not likely).

I’m leaning towards tap water based off what I’ve learned the last few weeks.
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Indoor growing is not easy at the best of times :-)
 
Kingrow1 said:
Indoor growing is not easy at the best of times :-)
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Tell me about it. After killing 4 seedlings and stunting 2 of them, the two are recovering but small and the others seem to be flourishing... we will see at the end what it yields and quality.

I think I have it dialed in now. Environment and feed regimen. Just had the water issue which is temporarily fixed for now. Looking forward to trying out 50/50 spring/tap mix...
 
RayRay747 said:
Tell me about it. After killing 4 seedlings and stunting 2 of them, the two are recovering but small and the others seem to be flourishing... we will see at the end what it yields and quality.

I think I have it dialed in now. Environment and feed regimen. Just had the water issue which is temporarily fixed for now. Looking forward to trying out 50/50 spring/tap mix...
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I kind of want to kill my tent off atm, few issues this run, repotted in wrong size pots, everything too close to lights and too much wind etc etc etc. Im not bad at reading my plants i just hate the damage caused until i remember what they are stressing about.

Not proud of this veg cycle, herbies freebies which said quite sariva and some sensi skunk seedlings in the back.

If you zoom in you should see the stressfull life they have led but overall ive pulled them back :-)


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Kingrow1 said:
I kind of want to kill my tent off atm, few issues this run, repotted in wrong size pots, everything too close to lights and too much wind etc etc etc. Im not bad at reading my plants i just hate the damage caused until i remember what they are stressing about.

Not proud of this veg cycle, herbies freebies which said quite sariva and some sensi skunk seedlings in the back.

If you zoom in you should see the stressfull life they have led but overall ive pulled them back :-)


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Def brought them back...looks like nitrogen deficiency (the claw)? Also a little heat/light stress?

Do you have before pictures? Would be awesome to see the difference.

Overall tho color and growth looks good...
 
RayRay747 said:
Def brought them back...looks like nitrogen deficiency (the claw)? Also a little heat/light stress?

Do you have before pictures? Would be awesome to see the difference.

Overall tho color and growth looks good...
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These are before and after as how they grew, they are growing better now, 3 weeks so the larger two will go to flower next week. Seedlings day 5, herbies freebies let me down for the ones that should be at two weeks and next weeks are planted waiting to germinate. Two plants a week 4 week veg.

Even i find it tricky still, plants slightly heat stressed from the light, if only they would stay put. Anyway its worth it for the bud at the end, if it werent for interruptions id average a hundred plants a year, better than minimun wage :-)
 
Kingrow1 said:
These are before and after as how they grew, they are growing better now, 3 weeks so the larger two will go to flower next week. Seedlings day 5, herbies freebies let me down for the ones that should be at two weeks and next weeks are planted waiting to germinate. Two plants a week 4 week veg.

Even i find it tricky still, plants slightly heat stressed from the light, if only they would stay put. Anyway its worth it for the bud at the end, if it werent for interruptions id average a hundred plants a year, better than minimun wage :-)
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Off topic: When/if you ever made bubble hash, do you dry the trim and if so how long do you dry the trim and what process do you use to dry the trim?

If you dont dry the trim, do you just freeze the trim right after cutting it off and then take it out to make bubble hash? How long do you freeze the trim for and how long can you freeze the trim for before it is worthless?

Any other pointers on trimming would be great to hear if you dont mind. I love soaking up good info and appreciate any and all suggestions.
 
RayRay747 said:
P.S. I have researched most of this stuff and have my own conclusions but always want to make sure I keep an open mind to other ideas and suggestions. Just wanted to put that out there so you all know I’m not being lazyzzz....lol.

Questions:

1) Do you make hash, if so bubble or another form? Any tips on that process? 5 gallon vs 1 gallon bags, bubble machine, washing process, etc.?

2) Temps ambient or canopy? What’s ideal temps and RH% for each? I seem to not see a difference noted or a differentiation between the two.m ever given...Which is most important to watch or are both equally important?

3) How cold does it need to be to stunt growth by roots being too cold?

4) would you order new super soil from coast of Maine for a photo or just reuse the soil from a small yielding auto plant? The plant had issues with pH and just not sure the soil is worth trying to revitalize.

5) If you had to make a choice, Would you use tap water (my tap has a lot of extra shit in it) distilled water, spring water or purified water for watering/mixing nutes?

6) do you wash your buds before drying? if so what is your process?

7) is it mandatory to have a oscillating fan on the buds/in bud dry box while drying them?

8 ) Can I dry in a large plastic container or is it best to build a smaller box (using plywood and drywall)? I would coat the Inside with reflective insulation for easy cleaning and keeping temps steady.

9) Could you give a quick run down of how you run your photos? on major milestones such as how long to veg, when to flip to flower, what to watch out for, etc?

10) Does anyone use ascorbic acid for a pH down, to remove chloramine, etc? If so, what purpose and dosage? If not, why don’t you use it?

Greatly appreciate all the feedback. Trying to create a manual of answers to growing questions.

Happy Growing!!!
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I am answering #10- I am on a well and my water is 8.1 @ 110 ppm out of the tap. Rain water here also lands about 8. I use an organic (rose hip based) absorbic acid every day to adjust my PH, plants are super happy (between that and proper food), and, I find it to be super stable (if I don't use all the water one day, it has moved by .1 if at all the next day). I'm growing in soil, organic ferts and/or teas tailored to what I've got going/how busy my schedule is (bio buzz and roots ferts if work has me running, teas when I have time to let brew), various strains. I've never heard of AA being effective at chlorine reduction- bubbling is the only idea I've read on that but I honestly don't look too closely at those threads/articles because I don't have that issue...

I'd love to know if anyone does not like it and why as well :)
 
Roots can adjust the pH of the soil to suit their nutritional needs, no need to do anything unless your soil is very acidic or alkaline.
 
Sapphyre said:
I am answering #10- I am on a well and my water is 8.1 @ 110 ppm out of the tap. Rain water here also lands about 8. I use an organic (rose hip based) absorbic acid every day to adjust my PH, plants are super happy (between that and proper food), and, I find it to be super stable (if I don't use all the water one day, it has moved by .1 if at all the next day). I'm growing in soil, organic ferts and/or teas tailored to what I've got going/how busy my schedule is (bio buzz and roots ferts if work has me running, teas when I have time to let brew), various strains. I've never heard of AA being effective at chlorine reduction- bubbling is the only idea I've read on that but I honestly don't look too closely at those threads/articles because I don't have that issue...

I'd love to know if anyone does not like it and why as well :)
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Ascorbic acid is and sodium ascorbate is "supposed" to completely neutralize both chlorine and chloramine, but the pH wont hold more than a day or two, which makes them only really usable for short term watering applications. I dont have any scientific proof tho. This is just from researching. I did use ascorbic at first for chloramine elimination, but now have switched to spring water (temporarily until I get a filter for my tap water) just bubble my water for a few hours, let it sit overnight then water the plants. I also read that organic matter helps reduce/eliminate chloramine, but again not sure how true that is. Ascorbic acid is supposed to be also good for the plants, but not sure how good it is for the bennies and how much of it does it take to have any ill effects on the bennies. A little amount may not be bad, a lot might be...

To add: I only adjust my pH up using earth juice natural pH. I rarely have to adjust down since the stuff i use is more acidic. I use Recharge last which increases the pH to around 6.0. I add a little earth juice pH up and bump it up to 6.25-6.50 range which is what i like to work with.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
 
ANC said:
Roots can adjust the pH of the soil to suit their nutritional needs, no need to do anything unless your soil is very acidic or alkaline.
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While I have read that...it is not what I've found to be the case. Through the last few grows I've tried Fox Farms (potting soil or OF depending on age), Vermifire, and KIS -all organic soils.

Now....my outdoor plants are different. Amend the soil right, and I never worry about ph in the water, just make sure to topdress and feed as needed. But those plants have a lot more dirt than one stuck inside in a pot.

Indoors, I water when needed, which usually works out to be every 1-3 days, depending on temps, rh, pot/ plant size, and how much vermiculite Ive added to the mix.

This far in all combinations I've played with (granted, a total of 4 plants, 3 seedlings that were 1 month, 2 at 2 mos, all in 6x6 or 8x8" pots, and a clone from a 6 mo mother that had been growing about 6 weeks and was in a 1 gal pot)
After 10-14 days, the plants without phD water started to show different issues, deficiencies, "ruffled" new growth, and reduced vigor when compared to their planted at the same time, same strain, everything else the same except PH counterparts in the garden. (The clone was the first one- and I didn't have a control for her)

Testing runoff, my PH would have gone in at 8 on those plants, comes out over 9. Ppm in was ~400/ 450, out over 1000. Before everyone cries that I over fed them- the other plants of the same strain were fed the same, just phd water, and their runoff was fine. I flush well w ph'd water, let them dry until thirsty, feed w phd water and feed like the others of the same strain, and they bounce back (after a while)...

ANC- what is your water like, and, what soil do you use? Indoors or out? Container type/ size? I would -love- to not have to fuss w ph adjustments every day!! And always happy to experiment further ;)
 
RayRay747 said:
Off topic: When/if you ever made bubble hash, do you dry the trim and if so how long do you dry the trim and what process do you use to dry the trim?

If you dont dry the trim, do you just freeze the trim right after cutting it off and then take it out to make bubble hash? How long do you freeze the trim for and how long can you freeze the trim for before it is worthless?

Any other pointers on trimming would be great to hear if you dont mind. I love soaking up good info and appreciate any and all suggestions.
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Dry trim as you would bud, the rest others can answer better or theres many detailed threads.

Mostly everything needs drying :-)
 
Sapphyre said:
I am answering #10- I am on a well and my water is 8.1 @ 110 ppm out of the tap. Rain water here also lands about 8. I use an organic (rose hip based) absorbic acid every day to adjust my PH, plants are super happy (between that and proper food), and, I find it to be super stable (if I don't use all the water one day, it has moved by .1 if at all the next day). I'm growing in soil, organic ferts and/or teas tailored to what I've got going/how busy my schedule is (bio buzz and roots ferts if work has me running, teas when I have time to let brew), various strains. I've never heard of AA being effective at chlorine reduction- bubbling is the only idea I've read on that but I honestly don't look too closely at those threads/articles because I don't have that issue...

I'd love to know if anyone does not like it and why as well :)
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My alltime best favourite most awesome fert and additive is biobizz fishmix. No ph is required and it works so damn fast youll swear its chems.
I highly recomend biobizz fish :-)
 
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