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lyndonm33

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ok awesome...(hits the bong first).....
jester, i wish i could rep you for each post dude. You have been helpful with all your words, and i think i know what i should do next.
ok so what i get is i should decrease my 12/12 flowering hours by 30minutes every week, to make a big enough difference (up to 3 hours) to make it think its time to flower.
soo this is my plan

this week (today is saturday) on monday i will decrease the 12/12 to 11.5 hours on/ 12 hours on.
then on monday week till the 26th i will do 11.5/12 then on 26th onward decrease 30 hour ever monday.
like 11/12..
will that work?
and im happy with the mircle grow (shame on me, oh my!) and fish emulsion. :D
gotta be more careful with that stuff
 

Jester88

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i use miracle grow and fish emulsion for bushies atm...
so no shame there the only shame that it has is the dumbasses who overuse the shit.. if you do it right theyll pump along

ill have to say there are better ones by far but it does the job. remember a little less is actualy more... and the thrive ideas not bad :)

i wish i could be more help but like i said the plants not mine and i dont know a lot of things about your weather, climate, plants conditions and all that.

but im glad you realise now what the concept of a dark room is. and how i do it may be diffrent to how you do it for reasons previously stated...
im stoned atm but i think i understand weht your doing next... its pretty close to the concept give it a razz.

so yeah id go with that and ya never know you may not even have to shave off that many hours or as fast... who knows.

i personally like aking a shade houde and letting that do the work.. but agai depending on where you are will influence the successs of this....

but yeah do some more research i can only say things that work for me, or are text book theories that any half ok grower knows by the end of it :)....
but like i said i havent said anything to lead you a stray im hoping your baby pulls out of this well....
theres seriously not much more i can say now you sort of have the basis of it now... now you just5 have to experience and figure out what it all means..

dont worry i maself have ruined a few plants in the aim of science and learning something new

its better now rather when you think youve got it down pat and have a bigger ambitions ya know...

to me it seems like your getting it so yeah heres ya +rep... well done ;)
 

lyndonm33

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AWESOME dude.
thanks well i will be updating this page every monday, when i change the light cycle. hopefully you see some changes as well
 

MJG420

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Always have some "superthrive" avalible, really cheap to buy, can bring any plant back from the dead.
Superthrive is the shit, I have used it since my plant was about 3-4 weeks old. I water it with it and use a light solution to spray it down with daily, works GREAT!!!!!
 

Jester88

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2 EZ
hope ya got something that works here this time

i can vouch that this works no probs once you get the hang of it "as youget used to it the time you put in dark room will vary cos youll get used to the amount of light and the atmospheres it kinda needs "if that makes sense that is" but like i said i ultimatlel prefer a shade box really then ya basically do what you have been doing really...

p note.. it works really well for outdoor plants that get stuck in limbo
just so ya know for future ref.

p.s
thanks for dealing with my shitty grammer.... its mainly my brain runs really quick and kinda jumpy.... plus i smoke a fair bit of weed so maybe that contributes i dont know lol..:eyesmoke:
anyhoo wish you well on the rest of this endevor.

and at least u learned what stipules are lol..

anyhoo hope all goes well with the rest of this bro :)
 

Jester88

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dont worry about it they fool heaps of people, i thought they were fucked up pistols when i seen them ages ago.
i figured out what they were soon enough tho lol.
to be honest i wasnt happy with them being pistols id grown a few times previous
but never noticed them before hand some how lol.
 

lyndonm33

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awesome,,any other tips on how to set this outdoor crop to flower...any ideas welcome.
im in perth, the temps are bloody hot(got to 42C yesterday).and sun come sup at 7:30-dies around 8-9-pm
 

Jester88

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ok then my advise to you is a shade box....

im pretty damn sure itle work for you. it works for me....

mainly only have to do it to save bud thats started in the kit and finished outdoors at the wrong time (the limbo prob cos theres too much light and heat here in oz some times) so ya put the shade box over it and it stays in head... il go see a mate for you sometime... wont be for a while yet he does this a few ways... fuck if ya put them out the bush here t the wrong time the amount of dirct light they lose is enough to make it flower..

ive had to make a lot of my writing on the assumption you could be from another country...

3 hrs should be plenty, but remember the thing tyhast makesme unsure as to what will relly happen id our days are still getting longer arent they.....

you should be fine tho you got the concept i think..

you should chuck another on in its completely possible that you get another plant at least that big maybe bigger than that one by the time this seasons over :)

you prolly wont even have to flower this one early...
 

Jester88

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meaning i come from OZ and im pretty damn sure you should be able to make this work...

we favour the shade box method when flowering early.... or when plants start going thrue limbo...
basically in a nut shell thats it.. :)
 

Jester88

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nah a shade box is like a shade house for the plants..

basically a big box for the plant.
generally making a big frame that should fit around the plant, and cover it good layering of shadecloth usually suffices here.. and you basically just keep growing it in the way you have been really. the loss of light and changein there direct atmosphere generally suffices.... usually andyway but ya help it along any way you can... ie move it too a place where itlre get more shade andcooler temps :)...

id just go with what you ad planned for this time.... when you start with one thing follow it thrue.. its for the best really

sorry i thought you knew what i meant cos i mentioned it a few times earlier.
ummm also theres certain times this wont work ie: when summers first kicker in and the days grow considerably longer... in oz somet6imes nearly matching that of the a kit... if on floer already more... meaning it may try veg again ( hense the shade box to keep it flowering :). if done right like i said can enduce flowering on bush plants in oz....

this closet theory does kinda the same thing but different altogether in a few ways
 

lyndonm33

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so pretty much... i can leave it outside IN a shady area, out of direct sunlight....for some time. and soon enough it will flower?
correct me if im wrong please :D
 

Jester88

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wrong.
although this did happen to me once :( i was devo didnt want it to flower
(i put it in a part of the bush that took too much light away than what it was used too and exposed it to cooler temps... my theory anyways)

i mean with a shadebox this stands a chance of working.... depending on area and what not. id just go with your idea dont wanna keep stressing it and giving it light poisoning or anything..... it could go hermie or worse......

its got something to do with the way it blocks the light and changes the atmosphere around the plant i guess.. this tricks the plant into thinking the seasons changed and its time to flower...

theres also hormones and things of the sort but your definately not ready for that shit lol..
 

Jester88

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first off...

id continue with what youve started tho... they both work once youve got it down pat.

shade box..

basically make a frame big enough to cover your plant and allow for the plant to get bigger.... when grown properly this plant will double to tripple in size once it starts tio flower :) awsome huh...

anyways you make the frame its gotta be big enough like i said....
then you gotta get some shade cloth to put around theoutside of it (note: if its not dark enough you may get away with double wrap. or even only double wrapping parts depends on your environment really...)

once you put this over the plant it should start to flower after a little while :)

you can also just drape it over the plant but i thouroughly dont advise it, y put the weight on the plant. plus it more than likely heat up and damage the leaves, buds and plant. thats something you dont want....

you gotta understand it now :)...

like i said it restricts light and changes atmosphere around the plant "kinda anyways". often resulting in the plants flowering more times than none.
 

lyndonm33

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ok what i just get a tall enough box..then cut the bottom and top of the box..so like a square with no lids, or flaps...then i shud put the plant outside, in a sunny or shady spot? and throw a thin piece of cloth over the top....so the plant is in dim light?
do i get it now? same concept?
 
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