Advice From OG's Needed. Outdoor Grow South Europe

Hey Rollitup community!

I live in southern europe and am growing some blue cheese and tangerine dream, both barneys farm.

I have 3 of each strain and they are about 1 month old now from first planting after a a few days of the damp towel germination method.

it's been still a bit colder than expected here so have been bringing them in at nights so it doesnt get too cold for them.

theyre not looking their best though, have done many outdoor grows in the uk and they have looked healthier.

- the colour is a bit off, they look a bit yellow
- one has a slightly brown/dead leaf
- and whats very weird is a few oft hem are starting to show white hairs??

have attached all pics.

have never seen white hairs in the veg stage unless i was growing autos, these are defo not autos..

Any and all help appreciated here, theyre in high quality soil and getting ample sun, its usually blue skies where we live. Its 3pm at current and around 17C, this has been the norm for them.

Any OG's out there that can pitch in? finding the white hairs very strange especially!

Cheers!

Your daylength may not be long enough yet, try to extend the daylength for awhile.

Roguedawg said:

Your daylength may not be long enough yet, try to extend the daylength for awhile.

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It’s an outdoor grow

I don't live anywhere near Southern Europe but If I were you I would start over again. Those are tiny for one month old and they are clearly budding. you can reveg plants that are budding but it takes a long time and generally, they end up with strange branching and clusters of twisted leaves for a while.
After about a month photoperiod plants reach sexual maturity and will start showing signs of gender, but those are definitely past showing gender they are budding and if they are photoperiod plants then they are budding because of the short daylight hours.
If it were me I would start a new batch of seeds with a small supplemental light to lengthen light hours a little bit. Or, if you can't get a light or don't want to use one, wait a week or two and then start a new batch, that way by the time your new plants reach sexual maturity the amount of hours of light outside will have increased enough to keep your new plants from going into budding.
I am further north than you but at my latitude, I put my plants outside in the middle of May, and by then at this latitude, I get enough daylight hours to keep them from budding.

Happy growing.

Funkentelechy said:

I don't live anywhere near Southern Europe but If I were you I would start over again. Those are tiny for one month old and they are clearly budding. you can reveg plants that are budding but it takes a long time and generally, they end up with strange branching and clusters of twisted leaves for a while.
After about a month photoperiod plants reach sexual maturity and will start showing signs of gender, but those are definitely past showing gender they are budding and if they are photoperiod plants then they are budding because of the short daylight hours.
If it were me I would start a new batch of seeds with a small supplemental light to lengthen light hours a little bit. Or, if you can't get a light or don't want to use one, wait a week or two and then start a new batch, that way by the time your new plants reach sexual maturity the amount of hours of light outside will have increased enough to keep your new plants from going into budding.
I am further north than you but at my latitude, I put my plants outside in the middle of May, and by then at this latitude, I get enough daylight hours to keep them from budding.

Happy growing.

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Thanks a million.. very much appreciate the time you’ve taken to write this

Will keep these ones going and start again at the same time, see how they turn out. I just checked and sunrise here is 7am and sunset is 8pm, so it’s already skewed towards longer nights, currently 11 hours of dark per light cycle..

I don’t have a light, you think if I start a new batch after germination I should be ok? Super weird I’ve never had this happen and done many outdoor grows!

thanks again for your help, very kind

gremmy2shoes said:

Thanks a million.. very much appreciate the time you’ve taken to write this

Will keep these ones going and start again at the same time, see how they turn out. I just checked and sunrise here is 7am and sunset is 8pm, so it’s already skewed towards longer nights, currently 11 hours of dark per light cycle..

I don’t have a light, you think if I start a new batch after germination I should be ok? Super weird I’ve never had this happen and done many outdoor grows!

thanks again for your help, very kind

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Well uk plant out where im at is mid may after solstice or wee bit earlier if its autos so south of france or some place like that in eu will be a lil earlier but you best check when your days are longer for plant out/veg at your latitude

gremmy2shoes said:

I don’t have a light, you think if I start a new batch after germination I should be ok?

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I would think you'd be okay starting a new batch right now, but It's Hard to say for sure, I don't want to give you bad advice. What I can say is that by mid-May when I put my plants outside I'm getting 14 hours and 20 minutes of light at my latitude.

gremmy2shoes said:

Super weird I’ve never had this happen and done many outdoor grows!

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One possibility is that you would have had more hours of light in the UK at this time of year than in Southern Europe. The UK Being further north from the equator gains light hours faster after the equinox than at lower latitudes. Assuming you planted at the same time this year as you did in the past years, you would have been getting more hours of light at this point in the UK compared to Southern Europe.
For instance, if you lived in Madrid, Spain then on the 14th of May you would be getting 14 hours 24 minutes, but, if you lived in London, England on the 14th of May you would be getting 15 hours 34 minutes. You would be getting an extra hour and ten minutes of light in London than in Madrid.
So the lack of light hours this time of year, compared to where you were before, may be why your plants are budding now, despite having started at the same time of year. Also, not sure if you are growing the same strains as when you lived in the UK, but some strains are more sensitive to light cycles than others.

Looks like hot soil to me. You may be able to save them if you transplant into plain soilless mix