Advice please on how long to veg.... Pics included

Thundercat

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I think you'll be more satisfied with your harvest if you count from when you see flowers. If your strain is supposed to take 8 weeks, counting from 12/12 you'd be expecting to harvest in 4 more weeks, and inturn be thinking man these don't look ready. Giving them the right amount of time will ensure your happy with a nice mature crop of heavy buds!
 

prosperian

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Hello , this is my first grow and I think everything is doing ok ..
Lights : I have a 1000 Watt HPS sodium ballast but currently using a Metal Halide conversion bulb that works with the HPS ballast for Vegging .. I will be switching bulbs to the HPS bulb once I begin flowering Ventilation and temps: I have a duct fan blowing hot air out from my HOOD through a wall and into my garage , I also have another duct fan blowing in cool air from outside and I live in Seattle so it's nice and cool right now
Nice first grow. Just curious, what are you doing for odor control? I know you are pumping the exhaust into the garage but I didn't see a carbon scrubber.
 

jaytea

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Nice first grow. Just curious, what are you doing for odor control? I know you are pumping the exhaust into the garage but I didn't see a carbon scrubber.
I live in a house on a half acre lot with lots of trees surrounding me , Plus I live in WA state and have a license to grow . I have camera's and flood lights around my space for security ... But to be honest I can't smell it unless i go in the room or the garage. I'm fully legal . I am only growing 4 plants and I can actually legally grow 15 . So I'm not worried about it.
 

jaytea

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On a side note... I was watering my babies today and there was this little puny stem under growth , not getting much light , the fan leaves fell off that stem so I just clipped it and there was this little pop corn bud at the tip of it.... I dried it out for about an hour on the hood of my lamp ... Smoked it in a one hitter , it was only like 3 hits and it tasted green as hell... But dude that shit creeped on me and I was stoned as a money's butt for about 4 hours. It was the Critical Jack
 

Thundercat

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Thats a nice thing to hear! My CJ is just about ready to take my first clone off of, then it will only be a few weeks before its in the flower room.
 

Dwezelitsame

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i would thin out the bottoms and under growth especially that whut is not gona get a chaance to amout to nuttin just take away from productions energy and block air flow

gluck

oh you usen a scrubber


I an I
Rastafari
 

jaytea

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i would thin out the bottoms and under growth especially that whut is not gona get a chaance to amout to nuttin just take away from productions energy and block air flow

gluck

oh you usen a scrubber


I an I
Rastafari
No Im not scrubbing the exhaust because I am surrounded by trees and can't really smell it unless i go into the garage.. Also it's legal for me to grow and I am within limits.
 
Nice clean looking layout but it looks like to me your lamp is too high, especially for flowering. Even out the canopy like others have suggested first.

The best way to make sure your plants are in the "sweet zone" is to buy a light meter. Seedlings and clones only require 375 ft candles or 4000 lux, vegetative growth is 2500 ft candles or 27,000 lux but flowering is 10,000 ft candles or 107,500 lux for optimal growth.

Remember, if you have a 1000 lumens light it will give you 1000 lumens 1 foot away from the bulb, 2 feet away it will only be 1/4 of that or 250 lumens, three feet away it is 1/9 or 111 lumens and 4 feet away its only 1/16 or 62.5 lumens.

If you don't have a light meter, a good way to determine the closest distance of your light from your plants is to hold your hand palm down over the top of your garden and start raising it slowly towards the light. You want to try and find the spot where you can hold your hand for a least 20 seconds without it becoming too hot. No being a hero here......For a 1000w lamp it will probably be between 24 and 36 inches below the bulb. Never let your hood get closer than that to the canopy. Some people I know actually hang a string on their hood and when they see it get close to the tops, they raise it.

Great first grow!
Hey Blueberry Bud..... I been searching for that info on lux and growth...I dont suppose you can remember wher you got it...???

oops btw sry to butt in jaytea ... nice grow dude!!
 

jaytea

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UPDATE!! I ran into a problem ..For about a week I noticed little to no growth on my plants .. Buds's were growing slow .. Didn't see any new growth at all. So I flushed with Vermi T solution added some microbes to the medium and now after 3 days I am seeing new growth again. Here are some pics:

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jaytea

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Ok so I noticed a few reddish hairs on the tips of my cola bud on one plant today like 3 hairs are starting to turn reddish. I am only in the middle of six weeks since I went 12/12 ... Is this premature or expected ? What should I do ?
 

Thundercat

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You should let them grow. It is very common for hairs to gradually turn red as the plant matures. It is not a sign that it is time to harvest them! Your plants are at a point where they will start to get some, but should also be getting new growth still for a few more weeks. Then they may stop most new growth, and only add weight for the last 2 weeks or so. Once the new growth stops you can usually see a visible difference in the "bulk" of the calyxs. They will begin to swell as they reach maturity and this is also when you get the majority of your weight. I'm a firm believer in pulling stuff early if you need something to smoke, but leaving as much as possible as long as it needs to go!
 

jaytea

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You should let them grow. It is very common for hairs to gradually turn red as the plant matures. It is not a sign that it is time to harvest them! Your plants are at a point where they will start to get some, but should also be getting new growth still for a few more weeks. Then they may stop most new growth, and only add weight for the last 2 weeks or so. Once the new growth stops you can usually see a visible difference in the "bulk" of the calyxs. They will begin to swell as they reach maturity and this is also when you get the majority of your weight. I'm a firm believer in pulling stuff early if you need something to smoke, but leaving as much as possible as long as it needs to go!

oh i can wait .. there is plenty to smoke around here in seattle . LOL
 

jaytea

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Now that spring is around the corner and here in Seattle area you can technically grow outdoors as long as you start them off in early spring indoors and then when summer hits you can let them sit outside all summer and get big and then bring them back in to flower or leave them out sitting on the back deck .
I have a question... My plants are starting the 7th week since I went 12/12 I will probably be harvesting in about 3 to 4 weeks I expect maybe 5 . Is it too late for me to take some clippings from the under growth that is not getting much light and try to clone them? If so what cloning technique would you use? I really don't have room for them so i will have to buy a CFL light or something so I can root them at 24/0 for the next month
Any advice?
 

Thundercat

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I highly doubt at 7 weeks they would clone properly. The latest I've heard you can take them is 3 weeks, the latest I've taken them was about 1 week and they are shitty clones. The are re-vegging now, and its a slow process it seems. I suppose if you need to save the genetics you can try it, but again I doubt at this stage you'll have any success.
 

jaytea

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I highly doubt at 7 weeks they would clone properly. The latest I've heard you can take them is 3 weeks, the latest I've taken them was about 1 week and they are shitty clones. The are re-vegging now, and its a slow process it seems. I suppose if you need to save the genetics you can try it, but again I doubt at this stage you'll have any success.
I read on some forum that you could clip your buds off the plant when you harvest but leave a few of the small thin branches towards the bottom intact ... then transplant it and cut back about 1/3 of the root mass and transplant it then feed it high nitrogen nutes under 24/0 light and it the entire plant with stalk and root structure will go back into veg... I read you can do this like 3 or 4 times before it finally just dies out on you .
Ever heard of this?


EDIT: Did you see this? [video=youtube_share;iO1-bPHpue8]http://youtu.be/iO1-bPHpue8[/video]
 

Thundercat

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Yep there are several guys on here that reveg things some what regularly I think. I've never reveged a plant, it takes awhile for them to turn around and recover. If you've got a bit of time it can be a decent way of saving genetics. Leave all the leaves on taht you can and try to just take off the buds. The less you cut off the plant other then buds from my understanding the faster it should reveg. The re-growth is crazy, it shots out of every bud site and branch joint.
 

jaytea

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Yep there are several guys on here that reveg things some what regularly I think. I've never reveged a plant, it takes awhile for them to turn around and recover. If you've got a bit of time it can be a decent way of saving genetics. Leave all the leaves on taht you can and try to just take off the buds. The less you cut off the plant other then buds from my understanding the faster it should reveg. The re-growth is crazy, it shots out of every bud site and branch joint.
well what i was thinking is summer is coming so if i can re veg it i can put it out on the back deck and let it soak up that summer sun for 3 months and not really worry about it , except for spraying it down with neem every so often to keep the bugs off and watering it with a nice organic tea. It wont hurt to try.

My new growth is kicking in again after the rinse . It's starting to get sticky and heavy in there. I accidently touched a cola bud today and then rubbed my eyes... OUCH!
 

jaytea

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That sounds like a great way to reveg! It will give it plenty of time and lots of light.
My One Ice plant has red hairs all over it now , the other 3 critical jacks only have a few minimal ones and the trichomes are still white . But the Ice plant has red hairs all over it . Do I possibly need to harvest it before the others? I think it is maturing faster. Also the buds on the CJ's are getting top heavy and they are falling over , I am having to prop them up.
 

Thundercat

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Sturdy up those critical jacks for sure, the less work the plant has to do to keep form falling over the more work it will put into the buds. Its very possible the Ice could be done sooner then the CJ, have you checked the trichomes on the Ice plant. That is gonna show you how mature it is, I always harvest once they are all cloudy, and I just notice a few ambers. They will continue to mature as they dry and get cured. Some people harvest with as much as 50% amber trichomes, but as far as I'm concerned that is waaay to late. The amber is a sign that the cannabinoids are degrading, cloudy is supposed to give peak THC content. I'd check the trichs on the Ice, and then make the call on pulling it, its gotta be around 8 weeks now so it very well may be done.
 
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