londonfog
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really GW. What country are we in ?
Affordable?
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ginwilly
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Why do you think that's true now? You think maybe because of the poor model of legacy costs they are no longer enough and new inventive revenues are needed?
ginwilly
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OK, so you mean here.
You asked when did income taxes start. The answer to that was 1700's to fight Napoleon.
It started here early and was later repealed as it was found unconstitutional. It was brought back after the advent of the Federal Reserve and a shiny new amendment. Do you need specific dates?
Can we just skip to the part where you make a point. We have been down this road before and you got distracted by squirrels or something and never made one.
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Red1966
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Repeatedly stating a lie doesn't make it true. CONs can only prevent a new care facility from opening, they can not prevent a facility from closing, or applying for a CON elsewhere. and opening.. Your argument seems to be "just keep stating the same lie over and over"
ChesusRice
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They want to close and open up a new facility?
Has to be in the same community.
So why close if you can't reopen some place else.
ginwilly
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What if you are losing 10M a year? What if closing that entity helps your other holdings in the community next to it?
Seriously dude, try to think this one through. You are saying that a CON prevents losing businesses from closing. Do you really believe that? or is it that you've painted yourself into this corner and don't know how to get out of it.
Red1966
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Why would it have to be in the same community. There are nation wide chains of hospitals, yet you claim they are all in the same community.
"So why close if you can't reopen some place else." Disregarding you can open somewhere else, if you're losing money at a location, you close it. So the "why" would be money.
You are arguing with a person who does not understand the most basic principles of business.
and typically is a line item on your tax bill.
Red1966
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Yes, they can. No, they can't force a hospital to stay in business. Repeating the same lie isn't working.
they've been charged separately since forever.
look at your cell phone bill itemized too, you pay for 911 services ie; fire, rescue as well.
ttystikk
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The above information is riddled with inaccuracies and omissions large enough to drive a drug fortune through it.
ginwilly
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You pay federal and state taxes on your phone/electric/gas bill that goes into the general coffers. It's not for local fire and rescue.
Red1966
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Yet you are unable to document a single one.......lol.......
Red1966
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Actually, some areas do charge for 911 service.
fail.
why don't you check things before you make a statement.
again you look stupid and ignorant, GW..it's not even worth my time to debate you over this.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3235
ginwilly
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Half wrong, as are you.
Federal taxes on your phone bill do not go to 911 but a 911 surcharge does. You got me there.
ChesusRice
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History says otherwise
additionally, you are billed on your property tax statement for services.