Al-Qaeda, Our Allies

Yep and a whole lot more... Shit the salafist jihadis who you affectionately refer to as "rebels" are responsible for this;

Catholic Priest Allegedly Beheaded in Syria by Al-Qaeda-Linked Rebels as Men and Children Take Pictures and Cheer

You should be ashamed you support such atrocities...

damn eche, nothing like a good old fashioned beheading with a pocket knife..i still vote for one bomb to the middle east and we're done with them..the middle east will be the downfall of man..imo
 
...........i still vote for one bomb to the middle east and we're done with them..the middle east will be the downfall of man..imo




And now you are loosely quoting the Bible.... Armageddon the end of time, the end of man… Starts in the Middle East…

“…Where the battle field blood will flow to (the height of) the horse bridle…”


They gas um… We kill the gassers… the remaining gassers vow to fight to death against anyone whom comes against their friend… US… the world is going to end, sooner or later… may as well pull up a chair, lite a bowl, and pop some pop corn…this is going to be good….
 
And now you are loosely quoting the Bible.... Armageddon the end of time, the end of man… Starts in the Middle East…

“…Where the battle field blood will flow to (the height of) the horse bridle…”


They gas um… We kill the gassers… the remaining gassers vow to fight to death against anyone whom comes against their friend… US… the world is going to end, sooner or later… may as well pull up a chair, lite a bowl, and pop some pop corn…this is going to be good….

i don't believe in the bible or higher being and it doesn't take much to figure this (middle east) out..when you leave the US, you basically take your life into your own hands which, i guess is what terrorism is all about..what DID they do before YT?..further, i refuse to watch anymore acts of terrorism posted in these threads..

syria? fuck 'em..you think i REALLY care if it's assat, the rebels, al quida, russia or china?..did i forget anyone?

unsubbed..
 
You mean he passed the buck?

Wow, what a surprise.

You don't get our system. This is not new. A President can act alone as C & C., but he then will answer to us. You will never see it before hand. Ganada, Panama, the Haiti thing, that is the list.

Then the fails, Ford, Carter, Reagan. If you blow it and did not get WE the People behind it, that is not forgiven. Success? Don't tell us. That is the system. We pop coconuts everyday in total secrecy at the direction of the President.

It is also a system of interlocking punts when preferable. The system. President Punts to Congress. Congress Punts either to the sub-committees or back to the President for Veto.

Lobby punts the SCOTUS. The Senate Punts to the Governors for re-district's and vote swaying at the county level. States Legislatures Punt to the Senate to bring back Pork.

Self Rule is the game of Hot Potato., Pass the Buck, 4th down Punt on long yards. Decision are put off so madness does not occur. All things considered, ad neusem.

They are the Experts. We are the Mob with the Rope. It is not well understood by Ferengi. It is what Bush did. And the PUBs will squirm this time and go along. Pro Forma really. If they don't, they are attempting to block a Nation Security Finding by POTUS. That won't happen.

We don't decide anything instantly. It is the Press-Newz-Joke that makes it all so dramatic so the People punt to the Press for Emotion.

The People can also be the punt receivers, like this weekend. :)

Call the Critters. Now is the time.
 
You don't get our system. This is not new. A President can act alone as C & C., but he then will answer to us. You will never see it before hand. Ganada, Panama, the Haiti thing, that is the list.

Then the fails, Ford, Carter, Reagan. If you blow it and did not get WE the People behind it, that is not forgiven. Success? Don't tell us. That is the system. We pop coconuts everyday in total secrecy at the direction of the President.

It is also a system of interlocking punts when preferable. The system. President Punts to Congress. Congress Punts either to the sub-committees or back to the President for Veto.

Lobby punts the SCOTUS. The Senate Punts to the Governors for re-district's and vote swaying at the county level. States Legislatures Punt to the Senate to bring back Pork.

Self Rule is the game of Hot Potato., Pass the Buck, 4th down Punt on long yards. Decision are put off so madness does not occur. All things considered, ad neusem.

They are the Experts. We are the Mob with the Rope. It is not well understood by Ferengi. It is what Bush did. And the PUBs will squirm this time and go along. Pro Forma really. If they don't, they are attempting to block a Nation Security Finding by POTUS. That won't happen.

We don't decide anything instantly. It is the Press-Newz-Joke that makes it all so dramatic so the People punt to the Press for Emotion.

The People can also be the punt receivers, like this weekend. :)

Call the Critters. Now is the time.
Stop the bullshit, Doer sometimes I honestly think you're autistic or something.

He passed the buck cos there's no stomach for war.
 
Stop the bullshit, Doer sometimes I honestly think you're autistic or something.

He passed the buck cos there's no stomach for war.

Knock it off. You would not address me that way in ordinary conversation. How the hell can you say you know from afar? How can you a young man, know more than an old Che-ist that has fought this shit in the street. Don't go there, there. Let your cousins tell you how it works here. And maybe you can share how it works there. What do the Irish say about gassing those babies? Look away? Move on?

Drinking again and typing. And being a turd. :) It's OK. I don't care. Cause it's you. That's why. It's cool.
 
I had to go back and review and you know...read sober? I agreed with you. :) So, funny. I said it was a punt. I said he didn't have the somach.

But, I also said this the act we play. Did you get born 30 years ago or something? This is how we play it. Put on Memorial Day so the Peps can get drunk and fight about it. And that is how we remember we need to fight. Memorial Day. What? You think that was an accident? We time things for this world. 30 previous incidents?!?!!? Come on. Come up to scratch with me and we fight them, by exposing the new mush minds to Dark, not yet Lite up.... Mind influence. Don't fight me.

I am DMI only here.
 
Knock it off. You would not address me that way in ordinary conversation. How the hell can you say you know from afar? How can you a young man, know more than an old Che-ist that has fought this shit in the street. Don't go there, there. Let your cousins tell you how it works here. And maybe you can share how it works there. What do the Irish say about gassing those babies? Look away? Move on?

Drinking again and typing. And being a turd. :) It's OK. I don't care. Cause it's you. That's why. It's cool.
No offense but it's always the same shit with you, fucking "war cults" and "self rule".

Seriously, you're delusional if you think your Govt is any different to European ones and that you have some kind of say in their actions.

You don't, Obama doesn't give a flying fuck what you think.
 
No offense but it's always the same shit with you, fucking "war cults" and "self rule".

Seriously, you're delusional if you think your Govt is any different to European ones and that you have some kind of say in their actions.

You don't, Obama doesn't give a flying fuck what you think.

So, we agree. You say what you mean, I am sure. When sober.

Now, tell ole Doer, how many beers in, are you, at closing on 9pm?
 
So, we agree. You say what you mean, I am sure. When sober.

Now, tell ole Doer, how many beers in, are you, at closing on 9pm?
Dude I barely even drink, just when I do I go balls deep ;)

Im pretty high all the time when possible, but that doesn't make you any more correct in your assertions that you actually live in a working Representational Democracy. And before you say it, yes you can have a Constitutional Republic that runs by way of Representational Democracy, it's not an "either/or".
 
Dude I barely even drink, just when I do I go balls deep ;)

Im pretty high all the time when possible, but that doesn't make you any more correct in your assertions that you actually live in a working Representational Democracy. And before you say it, yes you can have a Constitutional Republic that runs by way of Representational Democracy, it's not an "either/or".


Well, good. I too used to enjoy a good snock over causal, chitter chatter drinking.

I know you disagree but you know what I say, so what? I have honored your Republic on more than one occasion...,<hick> and I..

IAC, I do keep asking for intel. What say the Irish on the issue of gassing beyond, pasture gas, of course? :)
 
You guys cant be that slow?
You do realize the US does not give a fuck about anyone other then themselves and this has nothing to do with anything other then theirs and Israels interest. (of course I am talking about the politicians not your average joe)
They will support ANYONE that is willing to follow THEIR national interest regardless of how barbaric and insane they are.
Getting rid of Assad is the first time of weakening Iran the next step is to weaken Hezbollah if you noticed there was bombings in Lebanon which is to start a Sunni/Shia conflict which of course will weaken Hezbollah.
That is when they can take on Iran and control the Middle East fully.
 
Well, good. I too used to enjoy a good snock over causal, chitter chatter drinking.

I know you disagree but you know what I say, so what? I have honored your Republic on more than one occasion...,<hick> and I..

IAC, I do keep asking for intel. What say the Irish on the issue of gassing beyond, pasture gas, of course? :)
We say it's not our issue.

We are however sending troops to the Golan Heights to prevent fighting from spilling over the border, cos we're cool like that.
 
I knew the Irish would be in this. It doesn't matter if you and I agree or not.

Yeah, the allies are cool like that. Bust them tanks if they try a break out. Good on you.
 
obama just asked for congressional approval even though he doesn't need it.

what a tyrant.

:dunce:

The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation
 
:dunce:

The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation

Where did you get that idea? It is not written anywhere, that I know of. Congress funds, they don't approve or block military action. They will go along. The Congress is not part of National Security Findings. And since this is yet another Jefferson chapter, in nearing, 300 years of messing with Sunni Jihad, the funding is already done.

Congress can divert all auto, RV and all engine productions, sand track Sno-machines and cause all 4 wheeler output diverted, and take up metals, etc. It is called a Declaration of War.

Fighting is not War. So it is not so much, War Weary. We are Conflict Weary after 10,000 years of it.

I'm sure they quite weary by 9999 years ago. :)
 
Where did you get that idea. It is not written anywhere, that I know of. Congress funds, they don't approve or block militay action. They can divert all auto, RV and all engine production. It is called a Declaration of War.

Fighting is not War. So it we are not so much War Weary. We are Conflict Weary after 10,000 years of it.

I'm sure they quite weary by 9999 years ago. :)

That was a comment made by Obama in an interview with The Boston Globe back in December of 2007.

2. In what circumstances, if any, would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress? (Specifically, what about the strategic bombing of suspected nuclear sites -- a situation that does not involve stopping an IMMINENT threat?)

The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action.

As for the specific question about bombing suspected nuclear sites, I recently introduced S.J. Res. 23, which states in part that &#8220;any offensive military action taken by the United States against Iran must be explicitly authorized by Congress.&#8221; The recent NIE tells us that Iran in 2003 halted its effort to design a nuclear weapon. While this does not mean that Iran is no longer a threat to the United States or its allies, it does give us time to conduct aggressive and principled personal diplomacy aimed at preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

Is the above not the case with respect to unilaterally authorising military action against a nation without outwardly hostile intent to the US?
 
It comes down to legal words.

It is simple in the Law. The Oath of President says Will defend. No equivocation. Shall means in some circumstances of Emergency the Oath may not be taken but the duty is still binding as to what he WILL do.

Before he enters on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:&#8212; &#8220;I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.&#8221;

The War Powers Act says...Shall. It is as simple as that. Shall means MAY....optional. Only 5 Wars have been declared. Jefferson's War, we still are in, was not.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the United States Constitution, sometimes referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the power to declare war, in the following wording:
[The Congress shall have Power...] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
 
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