Al-Qaeda, Our Allies

Harrekin · Aug 31, 2013

UncleBuck said:
did the rebel leader also gas about 1400 people, including 400+ children?

Care to cite some evidence that solidly lays blame for the gas attack?

How many people did the US execute by gas?

How many people are executed to this day by chemicals (ie lethal injection)?

Every Govt kills it's citizens, not just Syria.

UncleBuck · Aug 31, 2013

Harrekin said:
Care to cite some evidence that solidly lays blame for the gas attack?

are you living under a rock?

we know where the weapons were launched from, we know the syrian military prepared with gas masks, we have intelligence in the form of intercepted phone calls, and on and on and on...

are you making an effort to be uninformed?

Harrekin · Aug 31, 2013

UncleBuck said:
are you living under a rock?

we know where the weapons were launched from, we know the syrian military prepared with gas masks, we have intelligence in the form of intercepted phone calls, and on and on and on...

are you making an effort to be uninformed?

You mean Israel SAID they overheard stuff that some guy might have said.

Open wide and swallow Obamas banana... Go on, but don't forget the nuts.

Doer · Aug 31, 2013

There is no equivalence to execution of the truly bad, after all appeals vs mass gassing of babies.

Surely you realize the false argument.

Doer · Aug 31, 2013

Harrekin said:
You mean Israel SAID they overheard stuff that some guy might have said.

Open wide and swallow Obamas banana... Go on, but don't forget the nuts.

It doesn't matter does it? Real.

UncleBuck · Aug 31, 2013

Harrekin said:
You mean Israel SAID they overheard stuff that some guy might have said.

Open wide and swallow Obamas banana... Go on, but don't forget the nuts.

woops, i forgot, you watched a video on the internet. so you know better than anyone :lol:

Harrekin · Aug 31, 2013

Doer said:
It doesn't matter does it? Real.

Evidence, Doer... Real evidence.

Or just jump in like in Iraq and show yourselves to be liars and hypocrites.

I bet drone strikes kill WAY more children that this chemical attack (regardless of who launched it).

Care to try disagree?

Doer · Aug 31, 2013

Harrekin said:
Evidence, Doer... Real evidence.

Or just jump in like in Iraq and show yourselves to be liars and hypocrites.

I bet drone strikes kill WAY more children that this chemical attack (regardless of who launched it).

Care to try disagree?

We don't need no stinkin' evidence that we are forced to share with you....Or to get your agreement on. If you will say, you don't thrust the USA. Good. Getting a clue.

But, see your position's demise when you try say that, since you have seen none, that there is NONE.

If the Admin says there is, as far I am concerned I'm glad they told me. They did not have to. Why are we falling for the posturing?

Our Congress is not even in session. Obama will be in Russia next week. WE the people will instruct our Reps to vote based on the tenure and tone of debate.

What you don't see, is Obama may very well, want a vote to NOT strike Syria. He is very wise to act one way, to tweek the noses of the stupid,then sniff the wind and punt to Congress.

It is another Operational Deception. I am not convinced yet that anything will happen. In fact the double-talk means it will not.

If WE truly don't care....that is that. But, this is still Jefferson's War. And WE may actual care a great deal.

WE will instruct our Reps and WE will see.

Harrekin · Aug 31, 2013

Doer said:
We don't need no stinkin' evidence that we are force to share with you. Or to get your agreement on. If you will say, you don't thrust the USA. Good. Getting a clue.

But, see your position demeishes when you try say since you have seen none that there is NONE. If the Admin says there is, as far I am concerned I'm glad they told me. They did not have to. Why are falling for the posturing?

Our Congress is not even in session. Obama will be in Russia next week. WE the people will instruct our Reps to vote based on the tenure and tone of debate.

What you don't see, is Obama may very well, want a vote to NOT strike Syria. He is very wise to act one way, to tweek the noses of the stupid,then sniff the wind and punt to Congress.

It is another Operational Deception. I am not convinced yet that anything will happen. In fact the double-talk means it will not.

If WE truly don't care....that is that.

Stupid little Doer thinks they give a shit what the unwashed masses think.

Doer · Aug 31, 2013

Oh, it is more sophistry. If we were using gas in drone strikes? That can come sooner than you think. And if you want us to do that one day, just sit back and say we monstrous liars and fakes. We will stop at nothing. This is just the way we go about setting ourselves up to agree about punishing this. Not stop it. Gut punch it.

If it tries to strike back, Rabbit punch it in the throat and kick it in the balls.

So, if you think WE should be dealt with this way, because WE are the bullies? Yeah, that stuff about, "how would you like if...?."

Bring it on. And in fact I have not heard much of Micky's view about Blister agents on children. Why not?

Where is the outrage in your self rule?

I know. It is OK, as long as it does come to the Emerald. WE say it is not OK, perhaps. But we are not afraid to debate it.

We know Sarin will be in the Amber Fields of Grain long before the Clover.

Neither WE nor France needs anything from anybody to do anything.

Doer · Aug 31, 2013

Harrekin said:
Stupid little Doer thinks they give a shit what the unwashed masses think.

Who are these unwashed masses? We have had wide use of indoor plumbing for quite a while.

But, for you and all else but US citizens, correct. WE don't give a poof fart for what you think.

fr3d12 · Aug 31, 2013

Doer said:
Who are these unwashed masses? We have had wide use of indoor plumbing for quite a while.

But, for you and all else but US citizens, correct. WE don't give a poof fart for what you think.

That my friend is the continual problem with the US, not caring about any nation but itself, it bullies and manipulates yet preaches tolerance and freedom!

Doer · Aug 31, 2013

fr3d12 said:
That my friend is the continual problem with the US, not caring about any nation but itself, it bullies and manipulates yet preaches tolerance and freedom!

Fooled you twice....shame on you.

The Press says that. It is not real. It is for raising children. Like I said. If you really don't like it and want us gone or to stop what we do, bring it on.

We have taken on all comers and the world benefits from our Stewardship of the Mediterranean taken on by Thomas Jefferson. It is quite regardless of what the amateurs might feel. That is our water way, since Europe won't claim it. It won't defend it. WE have to. And we Borrow to do it. It isn't even our money.

Easy manipulated. I'll go ahead and Predict. There will not be enough People in the USA, that get off their asses and call the Critters and tell them HELL NO. So, in the absence of that, the Preident will even find the PUB Congress will have had enough and will vote within the War Powers Act. This is Self Rule.

It is not the stupidity of why can't I wander onto anyone's yard or why can't I pick and choose the laws I like. That isn't freedom. Freedom to fuck it up by ourselves and ignore what is not in our interest.

And you all are simple in the head if you think that is not how it works. Don't tell me I don't know. I've had all kinds of education on this. I have seen it. I know this pattern now.

schuylaar · Aug 31, 2013

UncleBuck said:
did the rebel leader also gas about 1400 people, including 400+ children?

heheh..probably, certainly no evidence (assad) exists otherwise atm, right? :wink:

budlover13 · Aug 31, 2013

UncleBuck said:
did the rebel leader also gas about 1400 people, including 400+ children?

So I guess the US's threat of "You BETTER help us fight terrorism by going after those we consider terrorists OR we will view you as aiding and abetting the enemy." was just talk? Did Assad go after Al Qaeda and Al Nusra TOO much? Again, I've read several times that the "rebels" used gas initially and that the Assad military used them in response, on a larger scale. Isn't that how war works? So if Assad and his military DIDN'T go after the rebels we could invade because they were aiding the "enemy"? And we're wanting to send arms to help our "enemies" fight Assad? And NOW we want to missile strike to help those that fell the Twin Towers?

budlover13 · Aug 31, 2013

Just trying to wrap my mind around this convoluted logic.

UncleBuck · Aug 31, 2013

budlover13 said:
I've read several times that the "rebels" used gas initially...

did they kill 1400 civilians, including 400+ children?

nontheist · Aug 31, 2013

budlover13 said:
Just trying to wrap my mind around this convoluted logic.

Can you? Fucking nutjobs want an Al Qaeda state because Obama said "lets do it". This has nothing to do about innocents, an Al Qaeda ran country will just as bad or quite possibly worse. Assad still has many followers and killing him won't do a fucking thing to stop the killing/war. If we strike, we'll fail and get sucked into the madness, Obama has already shown he is just as incompetent as Bush. Obama has officially passed the buck to congress, lets hope we get a big fuck no from them.

I see some propagandists are having problems articulating what Obama's stance is, so strait for the horse's mouth...

U.S. President Barack Obama said Saturday that the United States "should take military action against Syrian targets" over its alleged use of chemical weapons, but added that he will seek congressional authorization for the move.

budlover13 · Aug 31, 2013

UncleBuck said:
did they kill 1400 civilians, including 400+ children?

You don't understand successful battle tactics do you? I doubt that the Assad regime gassed it's own people that supported them. They went after those supporting Al Qaeda/Al Nusra and those giving them shelter or aid. If a neighborhood was rife with rebel supporters they likely gassed the neighborhood. Isn't that the same tactic used by the US with drone strikes in Afghan and Iraqi villages?

UncleBuck · Aug 31, 2013

budlover13 said:
You don't understand successful battle tactics do you? I doubt that the Assad regime gassed it's own people that supported them. They went after those supporting Al Qaeda/Al Nusra and those giving them shelter or aid. If a neighborhood was rife with rebel supporters they likely gassed the neighborhood. Isn't that the same tactic used by the US with drone strikes in Afghan and Iraqi villages?

1400+ dead, among them 400+ children.

show me the equivalent of that anywhere.

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