Aliens....Do You Believe?

Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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The silver orbs are legit some kind of craft. Seen my first one as a kid, looking out the window while cruising through the mountains in eastern WA on a vacation. It kept darting around, and even followed allong the highway for so many miles. Either seen the same one.. probably an hour later on the other side of the pass, or it was a different one, and finally pointed it out to my mom that there was a shiny ball moving around. She was the only other one of us that seen it, before it zipped away. No way to take pics before it was gone, but we know what we seen way back then, in the early 90s..

If it was a polished lightweight alloy balloon full of helium, I don't know how the heck it could move like that, then hover perfectly still. Maybe its just one of those Williams "WASP'' Xjet hovering platforms they invented in the 40s, with a mylar shell around it, and added gyros for stability, with an extra turbo booster jet.


 
bd6187

bd6187

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Yes, when I was about 12 years old my father and I saw two UFOs. ( I didn't do drugs or drink and neither did my dad). When I got a little older I tried to question what I saw, and tried to come up with a "reasonable" explanation to what it was. To this day I can't figure out an explanation aside from they were piloted by something, the way they moved. They moved purposely. They were orbs of white light. They ended up shooting off extremely fast.
 
Killaki

Killaki

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bd6187 said:
Yes, when I was about 12 years old my father and I saw two UFOs. ( I didn't do drugs or drink and neither did my dad). When I got a little older I tried to question what I saw, and tried to come up with a "reasonable" explanation to what it was. To this day I can't figure out an explanation aside from they were piloted by something, the way they moved. They moved purposely. They were orbs of white light. They ended up shooting off extremely fast.
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I've seen things that aren't really explainable multiple times in life. As a child, teen, adult, and not just me but others around me. Things I'm able to say "wtf is that?" And other people are able to look as see submitting they don't know either.
I'm still not sure of the things I've seen but definitely things that aren't easily explained. Things that move fast and maneuver in unbelievable ways. Things that seemed close but motionless, soundless, and stayed for hours in the same position and suddenly taking off. I've even been witness to multiple lights in the sky that was later in the news and left unexplained even though many people in the area saw it.
I'm not sure what I'm seeing is aliens but I could accept that answer. I'm also not sure it's not human because I'd accept that answer as well.
 
Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

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The problem is that with CGI these days, it would be virtually impossible to prove aliens empirically.
Unless you had a romantic liaison with the creature, you could even be fooled by clever robotics...

So this is why ONLY MATHEMATICAL PROOF is sufficient.
But first you must KNOW that black holes are fake.

The establishment claims that nothing moving at light-speed escapes the black hole,
then awards the 2017 Nobel prize for 'observing' gravitational waves coming from black-holes
that are moving at light-speed...!

If you still believe in black-holes after considering that paragraph above, very closely,
then do not continue reading this link:


Only if you accept that black-holes are impossible, must you read that link which
then proves that the signature they claimed to be black-holes are really
alien launch signatures.

But its a mathematical proof, that is my point.
 
go go kid

go go kid

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they've just releaced these three videos of the tic tac and others, yet theres patent pending anti gravity engine plans awaiting, now you dont have patent pending if it dont work in the first place.
the military or private contractors are way ahead with tecknology then we could even get our heads round.
i am a believer in other worldly beings, but food for thaught
 
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snakedope

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Gravity lol
Gravity is a hoax, density and buoyancy, look it up.
Levitation tech is 100 year old, the Germans had it on lock from the start of the war, many schmetics, videos, and pics of their crafts are available if your willing to look
The idea is rather simple, but was sketchy 100 years ago when they used turbo jet engine to move the magnets inside the craft
Today they just use mercury ;)
 
MtRainDog

MtRainDog

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Do the exist? Probably, but I don't believe any have visited us.

The big logical fallacy here is that moving lights and whatnot that defy explanation must be aliens. Not true, and logically it breaks down.

Bad logic:
UFO's exist, therefore they must be aliens visiting.

Correct logic:
UFO's exist, and we have no idea what they are.
 
bursto

bursto

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MtRainDog said:
Do the exist? Probably, but I don't believe any have visited us.

The big logical fallacy here is that moving lights and whatnot that defy explanation must be aliens. Not true, and logically it breaks down.

Bad logic:
UFO's exist, therefore they must be aliens visiting.

Correct logic:
UFO's exist, and we have no idea what they are.
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except your forgetting the bodies they recovered, its not just an unidentified tic tac

whos seen the show where the guy actually follows up with all the witnesses and their relatives eye witness accounts years after the sightings
and proves its all a government cover up

some people still think the world is flat i suppose
 
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MtRainDog

MtRainDog

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bursto said:
except your forgetting the bodies they recovered, its not just an unidentified tic tac

whos seen the show where the guy actually follows up with all the witnesses and their relatives eye witness accounts years after the sightings
and proves its all a government cover up

some people still think the world is flat i suppose
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eye witness testimony is unreliable though. And i care very little about what these people making tv shows are telling us. They're trying to make a buck. Or maybe they don't really understand what they saw.

But if aliens were coming here to visit regularly, there'd be empirical evidence beyond eye witnesses. Everyone has a smartphone in their pocket, so where's all the videos flooding tik tok and instagram? We don't miss a beat taking that video when there's police brutatlity going on, but when the aliens are visiting, no ones' got their camera out?

And that is nothing like being flat earther. Flat earthers take a giant, illogical leap to come to their conclusion (mainly the grand conspiracy that would be necessary) . Similar logical fallacies and conspiracies are involved convincing yourself aliens have visited.
 
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snakedope

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bursto said:
except your forgetting the bodies they recovered, its not just an unidentified tic tac

whos seen the show where the guy actually follows up with all the witnesses and their relatives eye witness accounts years after the sightings
and proves its all a government cover up

some people still think the world is flat i suppose
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Yeah I wonder who those people are
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For less then 70 years people think the world is a globe, even though they see with their own eyes the naked truth, they know water can't curve haha, and then when you research history, you find that from the dawn of intelligence and wisdom, people knew with absolute truth where and how we live, and with absolute correlation between culture... Now ? People talk and the sheep's say maaaa and carry on.
 
Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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Took years and billions of dollars for some guys to push the test buttons that make the LIGO detectors go off, so we feel like we got our moneys worth, lol. Meanwhile, one of them sits right next to Hanford nuclear site (in my state).. that has supposedly been leaking radio active waste for decades... Ya ok.. I'm not as familiar with the other "LIGO" sites, but imagine they are also next to some other highly controversial facilities like the one here.

The only conclusion that I can come to, is not only that the facility was secretly designed for something else altogether (stargate portals, haarp, ISS fake station projector, etc), but mostly that nuclear waste being toxic, or used for warheads is a also complete hoax. Otherwise, they would worry more about cleaning it up than coming up with lame excuses to how gravity exists nextdoor.
 
medidedicated

medidedicated

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MtRainDog said:
eye witness testimony is unreliable though. And i care very little about what these people making tv shows are telling us. They're trying to make a buck. Or maybe they don't really understand what they saw.

But if aliens were coming here to visit regularly, there'd be empirical evidence beyond eye witnesses. Everyone has a smartphone in their pocket, so where's all the videos flooding tik tok and instagram? We don't miss a beat taking that video when there's police brutatlity going on, but when the aliens are visiting, no ones' got their camera out?

And that is nothing like being flat earther. Flat earthers take a giant, illogical leap to come to their conclusion (mainly the grand conspiracy that would be necessary) . Similar logical fallacies and conspiracies are involved convincing yourself aliens have visited.
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I had a chance to photo something crazy but didn’t. So I do understand the state of shock and not doing that. Especially wanting to avoid media. I hear ya, I personally think this alien stuff is getting out of hand. Unsettling rather it is real or not.
 
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