AllDayToker's Adventure of Greener Living - HPS Perpetual Closet Grow

MD914

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Yeah I need to get some pics up, just not to proud of them right now. I mean they look ridiculously frost and smell amazing but just a little crispy.

Been dealing with some kind of deficiency so trying to get them healthy.

I've been thinking about making a new soil mix for next round, to make sure I don't run into something like this again.

Fed them a couple days ago with 500ppm each of the flora micro, haven't checked them today but hoping they did the trick. I've tried many things and nothing has worked yet. I finally flushed 5 gallons through soil and the problem continued, so that's when I did the flora micro feed.
Hey ADT...don't be embarrassed!! We all run into problems now and then. Maybe post some pics and get some input :)
 

SOMEBEECH

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Yeah I need to get some pics up, just not to proud of them right now. I mean they look ridiculously frost and smell amazing but just a little crispy.

Been dealing with some kind of deficiency so trying to get them healthy.

I've been thinking about making a new soil mix for next round, to make sure I don't run into something like this again.

Fed them a couple days ago with 500ppm each of the flora micro, haven't checked them today but hoping they did the trick. I've tried many things and nothing has worked yet. I finally flushed 5 gallons through soil and the problem continued, so that's when I did the flora micro feed.
Been tryng to get ahold of you.

QUOTE="giggywatts, post: 11037369, member: 527251"]hey adt, thought i would drop in and say hello. i hope you get it under control. i'm all the time trying to figure problems out, but the last problem is my sour diesel doesn't like my leds to close, but with my last grow i had them at a 1 to 2 foot away. this one is 3 to 4 foot away, but doing a lot better.[/QUOTE]

MY man... GIGGY sup..Bro holla at me sometime.
 

AllDayToker

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Alright everyone, here are some pictures. Tell me what you think the problem could be. Still using a piss poor camera so forgive me on the quality of photos.

I've tried epsom salt, flushing, and even resorted to an old bottle of GH flora micro so far with no improvements. I don't feed often with my organics and ROLS so I wouldn't think it would be a toxicity.







 

SOMEBEECH

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This looks fine.Do all the plants new growth have this.....on apical.Meaning top buds look like this one?
Wow there is a lot going on in these pics.I think you have done Great ADT.
The flush was for sure a good thing.OK,IMO you have done all you can.I can see a lot of what she has gone thru now.And looks to be on the recovery.IMO your soil has to much N and needs to be flushed before you use or start another grow.IMO,it went into lockout.That's all I got.
I see the answer to what I ask you.
Have a great weekend Bro.:mrgreen:
 
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AllDayToker

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This looks fine.Do all the plants new growth have this.....on apical.Meaning top buds look like this one?
Wow there is a lot going on in these pics.I think you have done Great ADT.
The flush was for sure a good thing.
Well thanks man, defiantly couldn't of gotten this far without all your help. When you flush do you flush until the runoff is clear or do you just do a certain amount?

That's actually one of the healthier tops in that picture, I would say most are worse.
 

SOMEBEECH

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Well thanks man, defiantly couldn't of gotten this far without all your help. When you flush do you flush until the runoff is clear or do you just do a certain amount?

That's actually one of the healthier tops in that picture, I would say most are worse.
Depends on my Mood, Might tryn drown that MF sometimes!:cuss:You know the rule...Drop it flushit.Sry mane!Too funny.But... seriously it depends on what i am doing,5g in ROLS IMO and what I do will vary.There imo no set rule as there are no 2 plants that have the exact same problem....I Can't find the damn article I would like you to read.Dead tired.Bro.
I have had some ADT Need 5-15gallons,and also 2 flushes.Guess what Im trying to say is as much without killing it.
Dont think you will ever get CLEAR with any M in there....If you have ever hit that Sweet spot with the Cation Exc.when watering and learn each plant the very best you can is the best advice I have left for you bro.You are doing great,there are a lot of things IMO going on there.ADVISE get new soil 50/50 FFOF and Happy Frog,Flower.HF for Veg.Top dress with Hi N and HI P Guanos.This is what I was doing...You know when to use each on the top dress.Take care Kid.No promises on my return,had a hell of a run I enjoyed meeting you,and time spent.OH and Do not forget the damn gloves when messing with tha guanos!!! All I know is I got something from them!!! and thats 2 different Dr and ER visits.GRR Dont forget the castings,fig you know all about the GOLD!


Organic materials in soil increase the CEC through an increase in available negative charges. As such, organic matter build-up in soil usually positively impacts soil fertility. However, organic matter CEC is heavily impacted by soil acidity as acidity causes many organic compounds to release ions to the soil solution.

Horticulture is also sometimes defined simply as “agriculture minus the plough.” :roll:
ADT,I have been looking for almost a hr,I will try and find it 1 more time I NEED SLEEP now.:sleep:
 
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AllDayToker

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looks like your on top of it adt, i was thinking over feed. buds look good bro, wish mine where that far along.
Well I sure feel like I'm doing something wrong haha. Thanks though. They are only about 3 weeks into flowering or so. I'll be chopping around Christmas if I can get them back on track. :)

Show us some pics ADT =) We wanna see the frost! even if slightly crispy. Show us some dank frost! =)
Pics are on the top of the page haha. :p
 

AllDayToker

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Depends on my Mood, Might tryn drown that MF sometimes!:cuss:You know the rule...Drop it flushit.Sry mane!Too funny.But... seriously it depends on what i am doing,5g in ROLS IMO and what I do will vary.There imo no set rule as there are no 2 plants that have the exact same problem....I Can't find the damn article I would like you to read.Dead tired.Bro.
I have had some ADT Need 5-15gallons,and also 2 flushes.Guess what Im trying to say is as much without killing it.
Dont think you will ever get CLEAR with any M in there....If you have ever hit that Sweet spot with the Cation Exc.when watering and learn each plant the very best you can is the best advice I have left for you bro.You are doing great,there are a lot of things IMO going on there.ADVISE get new soil 50/50 FFOF and Happy Frog,Flower.HF for Veg.Top dress with Hi N and HI P Guanos.This is what I was doing...You know when to use each on the top dress.Take care Kid.No promises on my return,had a hell of a run I enjoyed meeting you,and time spent.OH and Do not forget the damn gloves when messing with tha guanos!!! All I know is I got something from them!!! and thats 2 different Dr and ER visits.GRR Dont forget the castings,fig you know all about the GOLD!


Organic materials in soil increase the CEC through an increase in available negative charges. As such, organic matter build-up in soil usually positively impacts soil fertility. However, organic matter CEC is heavily impacted by soil acidity as acidity causes many organic compounds to release ions to the soil solution.

Horticulture is also sometimes defined simply as “agriculture minus the plough.” :roll:
ADT,I have been looking for almost a hr,I will try and find it 1 more time I NEED SLEEP now.:sleep:
Alright, thanks for the info. I hope to not see you leave but I know I can always get a hold of you somehow haha.

Well I flushed them with about 4-5 gallons each when I did it last, and since I've seen nothing more advancement with this problem.

I do plan on doing a new soil mix next time. I tend not to use guanos anymore, just because I've been using other stuff with such success up until now. I top dressed these guys with some alfalfa and kelp meal, and some Jobes. But that was about when they first started popping pistils. And I'm always giving them EWC top dressing and teas, they always love it.

I'll have to read more on CEC. We learned all about it in Soil Science when I took horticulture for a year. Don't remember shit but still got my expensive ass book. I can see it from where I'm sitting haha.

If you find the link just let me!
 

AllDayToker

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Alright guys, so with this plant problem.

I think my next idea is to flush them/give them a heavy soil drench of some ewc teas. I cannot think of anything else to do and chucking in as many microbes into the soil is the only idea that's coming to my mind as this point.

You would of thought flushing it the first time would have at least slow down the problem but nope, didn't even budge.
 

dlftmyers

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Alright guys, so with this plant problem.

I think my next idea is to flush them/give them a heavy soil drench of some ewc teas. I cannot think of anything else to do and chucking in as many microbes into the soil is the only idea that's coming to my mind as this point.

You would of thought flushing it the first time would have at least slow down the problem but nope, didn't even budge.
I wish I could help ya...Last time I flushed a plant in organic soil I ruined it...I don't flush anymore.. I try to stay on top of it before it starts..I say that but I'm having problems with my Pineapple Chunk grow..:oops: Anyways maybe @MD914 might be able to help you...She's kicking but in organic soil...Hope you get it figured out.....:peace:
 

AllDayToker

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I wish I could help ya...Last time I flushed a plant in organic soil I ruined it...I don't flush anymore.. I try to stay on top of it before it starts..I say that but I'm having problems with my Pineapple Chunk grow..:oops: Anyways maybe @MD914 might be able to help you...She's kicking but in organic soil...Hope you get it figured out.....:peace:
Yeah I never have had to flush since I've gone to organics. It didn't seem to help but I don't know if it hurt it.

Hopefully she'll have an idea, I know she has her system pretty dialed in. At least your plants say that lol.

Idk my next idea is giving them long soil drench of some ewc/microbe tea and see if I can't cure it that way. Basically flush it with the tea and load the soil up with microbes. See if they can get the problem figured out for me.
 

MD914

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Yeah I never have had to flush since I've gone to organics. It didn't seem to help but I don't know if it hurt it.

Hopefully she'll have an idea, I know she has her system pretty dialed in. At least your plants say that lol.

Idk my next idea is giving them long soil drench of some ewc/microbe tea and see if I can't cure it that way. Basically flush it with the tea and load the soil up with microbes. See if they can get the problem figured out for me.
Hey ADT...I really can't see these pics well enough to give an opinion until I get home and can view them on my laptop. But without seeing I will say that I wouldn't flush...overwatering comes with it's own set of problems IMO :mrgreen:
 
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