Almost 9 weeks flowering no trichomes 600w HPS Master kush

k.o

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Thats actually a possibility, the plants are covered in light proof materials during lights out, however at the bottom and at the back of the box small amount of light was coming out, ive fixed this now but any light coming in was really dull e.g. light from my pc monitor its weird though because i had 6 plants all put in flower the same day all same seeds except one which was rocklock and they all seem to be at different stages in there life, e.g. theres one with no buds at all, one thats got huge colas but no trichomes on them, one thats just forming buds etc
 

carokann

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maybe it needs something to kick it into flower such as open sesame, its got like a 45 for phosphorus. ''I eat rat poison cause i cant read the box.''
 

Indi

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I only water when they are really dry and the soil is all hard though, not when it's still damp and no more then 3 times a day.
Did anyone catch this? Watering three times a day is a huge amount in soil grows for just about any plant. Why water three times a day? Is the soil drying out that quickly? Or are you just watering when the top of the soil looks dry? Have you checked to see if the soil is dry two or three inches down before you water? How large of a container do you have these plants in, and how much water are you giving them each time?
 

OZUT

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Did anyone catch this? Watering three times a day is a huge amount in soil grows for just about any plant. Why water three times a day? Is the soil drying out that quickly? Or are you just watering when the top of the soil looks dry? Have you checked to see if the soil is dry two or three inches down before you water? How large of a container do you have these plants in, and how much water are you giving them each time?

Was just going to ask about the pot size....But I don't think the trich production is because of the roots...To clarify, the roots will effect production but not to the point where you won't see any, just not as much as a plant that's not that root bound....

I grow MK too and they don't frost up like my other strains, especially on the leaves...if you're looking at the leaves for indication, then you're really not going to see much...Now I have seen other MK grows that were just loaded...

The white hairs are new growth...During my last grow, half my MK's got a new burst of white hairs growing half way through....Still ended up chopping them on day 64 because they were done...Get yourself a scope and check the buds to see what they look like...you should still see it on the buds...

They probably dove back into veg because the light leak was probably more than you first thought...Which would also explain the hermie part...

My opinion and what I would do if I was you is cut my losses and move on...9 weeks is around the time they should be getting chopped but you look like you're at a point where you still got a long way to go....Not to let it all go to waste, cut back on the light hours by 30 minutes a day for a week, then give them 24 hours of darkness and chop em....the longer dark hours will signal to them that they're at the end of their life cycle and will kick into survival mode by trying to produce as much as they can to catch any rogue pollen they can....it'll also redden up those hairs....Just my 2 cents bro...

At the end of the day, just write this off in your experience book
 

skunkushybrid01

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Did anyone catch this? Watering three times a day is a huge amount in soil grows for just about any plant. Why water three times a day? Is the soil drying out that quickly? Or are you just watering when the top of the soil looks dry? Have you checked to see if the soil is dry two or three inches down before you water? How large of a container do you have these plants in, and how much water are you giving them each time?
No, I missed that. well spotted.
 

k.o

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But if i dont water three times a day they will die simply because they dry out so fast. I only water when the soil is rock hard at the top and feels crusty, its weird that they need watering so much i think its because the pots are too small
 

noxzious

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Those buds dont look ready yet, infact they look like there 2-3+ weeks in flower but there big hmm, id put my money on it thats a sativa phenotype from 1 of the parents and you should try aiming at 13 weeks now youve seen this... Ofcourse you should have trichomes by now but i think your talking about visible? Not viewed via a microscope right? I have never flowered a sativa so i wudnt kno when they frost up but comparing to an indica that finishes around 8 weeks most of the trichomes appear in the last 3-4 weeks so i dunno if thats anything to gage by but it might be wise to keep it light proof in dark and go the extra mile.

You could just have a strange phenotype that takes ages to finish, maybe the buds will be more mature :)

But like someone said earlier its probably bad genetics, shows bad stabilization if your getting phenotypes like that.. I take it you thort it was indica or mainly indica? And was probably told around the 8 week mark even though its probably been crossed with sativa loool i never understand that
 

noxzious

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Thats actually a possibility, the plants are covered in light proof materials during lights out, however at the bottom and at the back of the box small amount of light was coming out, ive fixed this now but any light coming in was really dull e.g. light from my pc monitor its weird though because i had 6 plants all put in flower the same day all same seeds except one which was rocklock and they all seem to be at different stages in there life, e.g. theres one with no buds at all, one thats got huge colas but no trichomes on them, one thats just forming buds etc
Oh wait, so youve got numerous plants doing funky shit? Have you got any fresh air getting to your plants?
 

k.o

Member
Ive chopped a small bud down and inspected it with a microscope and can see a few clear trichomes very small forming, it is only a 20% sativa strain so i cant see why its taking so long, i guess the only thing i can do is wait and see what happens im going to smoke the bud i took down dry it and see if i get any sort of high with it. Also yeah the plants have one oscillating fan on and another smaller fan blowing directly on the lamp.
Thanks for all the replies guys, has really helped.
 

noxzious

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It dosnt really matter how much sativa it has been crossed with the seeds will still carry the traits from a specific parent which could of been the Sativa. It just shows that the sativa characteristic gene of late flowering wasnt propperly eliminated through crossing - which leaves you here with a phenotype of a sativa parent which will have most characteristics of the sativa :)

When some big seedbank companys cross they tend to eliminate obvious features of plants they do not want as they think it is the quickest way of determining the characteristics eg. sativa = long thin leaves, so they would eliminate the long leaf babies but not actually find out if the ones with indica leaves still have the sativas late flowering gene....

Well thats just a guess anyway......
 

k.o

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Hmm temperature never goes higher then 85F so i doubt its temperature, im just gonna go ahead and guess its from its sativa traits and crappy genetics and will let it flower a little longer.
Also the hairs are receeding back and are thin and browning and dont look as immature as they look in the pics i posted a couple of days ago.
 

corners

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But if i dont water three times a day they will die simply because they dry out so fast. I only water when the soil is rock hard at the top and feels crusty, its weird that they need watering so much i think its because the pots are too small
Do you have a fan trained on them? Small pots + Direct air from fan = quick drying out. If this is the case get bigger pots and put a fan on a timer every 30 min or something .
 

nitrobob1786

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my vanilla kush looked the same all leaf smelled ok but not very frost after 11 weeks i chopped it werent happy with it let it fatten up chop down and moove on to a better strain go onto picknmixseeds.co.uk and pick the high yeild strains u will be happy with them also i suggest if they r rootbound go out and get urself a few bucket or bigger and put ur own drainage holes in them they cheaper that way im using 35ltr pots this time and have noticed my plants are so much happier than they were in 11 ltr pots it restricts your harvest weight to
 

gualla

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Whats the humidity in your room? Low humidity makes plant produce resin to protect leafs and buds from drying out..good luck
 

knourgro

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I think your watering wayyyy too much,
your probly cloging up the plants "pores" so to speak,
not letting it get the resiny coating over the leaves as Ive learned in the past will render the plant almost useless
i agree with this. your actually supposed to almost starve the plant of water during bthe later parts of flowering. the plant doesnt know we wana get high of the resin, it uses the resin as protection from the elements. when theres a lack of moisture and water, the buds will start to excrete more resin to cover its leaves and lock in moisture. if moisture is abundant or overabundent, then your planbts wont do as much work producing resin because they dont need the protection.

try sticking your index finger all the way down into the soil, you dont want to water again until your finger comes out with dusty dirt on it as opposed to the damp mud like dirt when its still damp.

goodluck man
 
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