Amazing weed, smells like hay though!

JayTrinity

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I just read this post, dry to bendy and put in jars. I removed from jars after more research and reading the high times magazine and the Jorge Cervantes book that it should be Snappy or risk of mold.

Not trying for forum war, just trying to get at the truth.
 

k1llabyte

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cervantes also says that cutting a clone from a plant that has already begun flowering is "a small problem"

there is a lot of things that he says in his videos / q + a that causes me to question his level of experience. The bible is awesome though, but that is more of a research project than an anectodal tale of his experience.
 

anomolies

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cervantes also says that cutting a clone from a plant that has already begun flowering is "a small problem"

there is a lot of things that he says in his videos / q + a that causes me to question his level of experience. The bible is awesome though, but that is more of a research project than an anectodal tale of his experience.
? What are you talking about? He's not wrong. I have taken and rooted clones from plants in all stages of flowering, even the 7th week. You just look for the most immature looking bud and stem has to be pliable. By "small problem" he probably means the time it takes for it to reveg and start putting out normal growth (a few weeks).

I'm starting to wonder if the hay smell is from flushing your plants. I've been flushing some plants for 2-3 days and it lost all smell, I have one cola chopped already during the flush and it has no smell.
So I hit it with a final feeding and the newly chopped buds smell good but the old one still has no smell. Weird huh?
 

k1llabyte

Member
every time I've flowered out one of those types of flower-clones it is pretty much a massive waste of nutes and light...shitty bud development, slow growth...weird deficiencies..

he should have said "don't ever do this if you don't have to".

Also anyone who has a pay-per-click in their sig is basically a write off for me...do you post to make a point or to get free seeds?
 

anomolies

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every time I've flowered out one of those types of flower-clones it is pretty much a massive waste of nutes and light...shitty bud development, slow growth...weird deficiencies..

he should have said "don't ever do this if you don't have to".

Also anyone who has a pay-per-click in their sig is basically a write off for me...do you post to make a point or to get free seeds?
the point of taking a clone that late is to propagate save the strain in case earlier clones died. You're not supposed to flower them while they're revegging. If you let them fully resume veg when the time comes they will flower out like normal
 

greenops

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Why cervantes doesn't explain us what's the hay smell/taste and how to avoid it?? does he know himself? :p
Exactly what i need to know!

I just harvested a Skunk1 and AK48s, I let them flower for 10 weeks.
So no its not strain dependent cuz a Skunk is suppose to stink, and no I didnt harvest too early.
I let the stalks dry for 6 days, stems started to crack and snap. After the first couple days in the jar, the hay smell was really strong, almost made me puke!
Now after after 3 weeks, the smell out of the jar still has some faint hay smell, but its smoother now... still doesnt smell dank tho!
And when I hold the buds directly under my nose, its like no smell at all!

WTF! Id really want to know what causes this and how to avoid it.
So for now, a good cure is my only hope.
 

Dirty Harry

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Sometimes great smoke but no dank smell has it's advantages. I was in a bar sitting with some friends over drinks. After a few min. they started to say they could smell weed from some where. It was me, and it was stinking through the bag but I didn't know as I was used to it.
My friends are smokers so they are keen on the smells, and we all shared...Happy Ending :)

Low stink but good high sure would make it easier to move around.
 

ZeeeDoc

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Skunk 1 has quite a bit sativa in it I believe, so my reckoning 10 weeks wasnt enough. The uk cheese i grew which is skunk 1 genetics took 16weeks flower and incredible pungency. Ive had that hay smell back in the real early daze and was cuz i ws cropping too early.

When ya say you didnt crop early what stage was the trichomes at? I never had a sativa finish within 11 weeks - nornally 13 on average.
 

mashroom777777

Active Member
Exactly what i need to know!

I just harvested a Skunk1 and AK48s, I let them flower for 10 weeks.
So no its not strain dependent cuz a Skunk is suppose to stink, and no I didnt harvest too early.
I let the stalks dry for 6 days, stems started to crack and snap. After the first couple days in the jar, the hay smell was really strong, almost made me puke!
Now after after 3 weeks, the smell out of the jar still has some faint hay smell, but its smoother now... still doesnt smell dank tho!
And when I hold the buds directly under my nose, its like no smell at all!

WTF! Id really want to know what causes this and how to avoid it.
So for now, a good cure is my only hope.

i had the same problem and i'm starting to think that either i chopped them early or it happened due to the high temperatures in my grow room up to 40c. i cured also for 3 weeks but there was no smell at all no taste and no potency,i had 3 easy ryders and i chopped them at day 80,so i don't think i harvested early,i think i had shitty weed due to the heat.
 

BlazedMonkey

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How can I make my bud smell good??? It always comes out smelling like hay! Please someone let me in on your method! I hung in the closet in complete darkness it was dried in 3 days, jarred and cured for 4 weeks. This year i plan to add an intake hole with exhaust fan at the top of my modified closet. I will use a humidifier and a thermometer/hygrometer to try and keep track of things. Think this will work??

Anything helps!
Question what lights did you use?
When i grew with my friend we used CFLs and our buds were light/airy which ended in them drying to fast and we also got the smell of death/hay :/
I would try drying more slowly and see if that helps.

If i grew airy buds like that again i would try to use the paper bag method of drying so that they wouldnt dry out so fast and hopefully the buds would dry better.

Also i had bagseeds so good chance that didnt help. Did you use genetics?
 

Joe Blows Trees

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An old thread but what's the correct answer? Harvesting to early, flushing, not properly curing?(all of these were mentioned in this thread)
I had the hay smell on a few strains and after three weeks of curing, most of them have their aroma back except for the amnesia haze. Still has a slight hay smell but it's much lighter than before. It was harvested 88 days from flip and the breeder said 64 days. Does drying with some fan leaves make a difference because I dried my chocolope with the fans leaves on and it kept it's aroma through drying and curing while the og kush I wet trimmed took a week to get it's aroma back.
 
An old thread but what's the correct answer? Harvesting to early, flushing, not properly curing?(all of these were mentioned in this thread)
I had the hay smell on a few strains and after three weeks of curing, most of them have their aroma back except for the amnesia haze. Still has a slight hay smell but it's much lighter than before. It was harvested 88 days from flip and the breeder said 64 days. Does drying with some fan leaves make a difference because I dried my chocolope with the fans leaves on and it kept it's aroma through drying and curing while the og kush I wet trimmed took a week to get it's aroma back.
In my grows I would get the hay smell a lot if I didn't flush enough or it would occur if I left to many fan leafs in the jar during cure, but especially if I harvested to soon, but then again sometimes it's the strain, other times leaves or flushing. I believe a many number of things can cause a hay smell. Heck sometimes it just need time for the cloryphil "misspelled" to bleed out. Don't take my words as a pro, I've only had 4 years at this and still learn things from time to time. Knowledge is power and there is always something new to learn right around the corner.
 

resinousflowers420

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well maybe the bud isnt as dry as you think when you put it into jars.then you leave bud in the jars for too long without airing out the jars.just because the bud is dry on the outside,doesnt mean its dry.or it could just be youre drying too quickly.
 

whitebb2727

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Get a good cheese or skunk strain.

I just finished some cheese bomb from bomb seeds. A nug the size of your thumb triple bagged will stink up the house.

When are you chopping? Chop right before lights on. Terpene levels are the highest right before lights on.

I have had to chop during lights on or during daylight for outdoors and the smell not be as strong as it cut right before lights on.

You could also try an extended dark period before chop. I've never done it but it is recommended by some. It would allow for more terpene to build up.
 

shannonball

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people.. people.. people..... no no no no! Listen.. you need to be careful with what information you chose to read and follow. Why? Because the internet is filled with all kinds of information.. good and bad.. not only good and bad.. but some of it is correct.. but.. some of it is also incorrect. In fact, 70% of the material you read on the internet about growing cannabis.. is actually incorrect. Why so much incorrect info? Well, its sad to say.. but 70% of the information (articles) you read about growing cannabis.. is incorrect because its mostly written by young immature teenagers that "think" they know it all.. but in fact they don't know what they're talking about. It's true! If you want some correct and GOOD information on growing.. check out hightimes magazine or just simply go and buy yourself a few books on growing... that way you know the information is at least %99 if not %100 correct because its generally written by experts (people that actually KNOW what the hell they're talking about).

Take zmansmoke and his post.. for example: (not picking on ya buddy.. just using you as an example) you said you waited until the stems on the buds broke.. when bent.. before you started the cure.

Well, that's where you made you mistake. You don't want to wait until the stem breaks. Why? well, because by this time.. you have waited too long.. and the buds water content has dropped way to low in percentage by this time. When air drying.. you want to wait until the outer part of the bud feels dry.. and the stem bends.. but doesn't break. Then you can start your curing.

Why? Because.. IMO people make growing WAY too hard than it really is. Growing is actually the easy part.. the hard part is drying and curing the harvest correctly. All curing is.. is slowing down the drying process.. also it lets the rest of what chlorophyll might be left evaporate. But again, all curing is.. is slowing down the drying process. Also, curing also helps trap in that dank goodness that everyone loves to have.

The curing process runs on the same principles as your plants light cycles. You cure in cycles.. once the outer edges of the bud is dry.. and the stem bends but doesn't break.. and you have put your buds into your jars and have the lids on.. wait 12 hours until you open the lids of the jars. During this 12 hours.. the moisture from inside the middle of the buds has slowly made its way (evaporated) out of the bud.. but has no way to escape because the lids are still on the jars thus trapping in all that moisture. The evaporating moisture also makes a rise in the humidity inside the jars.. and since its still trapped inside the jars.. it rehydrates the buds to a certain point. Finally, after the first 12 hours of having the lids on.. take the lids off. The buds should feel a little damp again (but not too wet.. if they feel like a fresh harvested bud.. then you need to air dry them for a few more days.. also if they didn't re-hydrate then you've let them air dry too long.) After inspecting the buds to make sure they got a little re-hydrated from being in the jar for 12 hours.. just leave the lid(s) off of your jar(s) for a good 2 to 4 hours to let the fresh moisture on the buds evaporate.. then put the lids back on.. and repeat the cycle. See how its kinda like the light cycle? Like that one would be 12hrs/2hrs or 12hrs/4hrs. See how that works now?

Each time you put the lid on.. the humidity inside the jar(s) will slowly evaporate the moisture from inside the middle of the bud as well as the stem thats inside the middle of the bud... thus raising the humidity level inside the jar like I said before... then each time you take the lid off.. your letting that new evaporated moisture from the middle of the bud.. and the stem thats in the middle of the bud.. evaporate. So, see.. each cycle of lid on/lid off which is one complete cycle.. your taking out the moisture bit by bit.. from inside the middle of the bud (and the stem thats inside the middle of the bud).

Now.. you don't want to just keep on repeating cycles until the buds are 100% dry. You want to leave around 10% to 15% water content inside the middle of the buds.. once they get to around that level of water content.. you can then put them back into their jar(s) and store them without having to worry about "burping" the jars. Also, at this point.. the buds are not only smokable.. but they will smell and taste like they should!

There ya go.. hopefully I have broken this down so that the ones that don't understand.. now understand. ;)

peace..

written and edited by: ganjaluvr 9/29/2010
Finally someone with a voice of reason and knowledge. we were laughing at all the crazy comments regarding "why my weed smells like hay." Especially the person who said "poor genetics" that one was funny. As you said, "Growing is actually the easy part.. the hard part is drying and curing the harvest correctly." We agree completely, i always hated the harvesting/trimming for drying part of the process.

Just spent four days harvesting four plants...Sapphire OG 4.6oz, Chocolope Kush, 5.5oz, Green Crack 6oz, and Black Dog OG 2.5oz). Still have a VERY HUGE Y Griega, four auto's and two green crack clones to go...but not for a while yet.
 

chemphlegm

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How can I make my bud smell good??? It always comes out smelling like hay! Please someone let me in on your method! I hung in the closet in complete darkness it was dried in 3 days, jarred and cured for 4 weeks. This year i plan to add an intake hole with exhaust fan at the top of my modified closet. I will use a humidifier and a thermometer/hygrometer to try and keep track of things. Think this will work??

Anything helps!
your weed dried/cooked in 3 days. thats one issue. in proper controls the twigs wont snap for a couple weeks.
drying without controls is like driving without eyes.
every grow bible covers this in the first chapters with detailed parameter settings. why try any other way? sorry about your waste.

lights?
c02?
soil?
nutrients?
air supply?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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it should take at least a week before your weed is ready to jar, two would be better. if it dries too fast, it stops some processes, and one of them is the process that breaks down the chlorophyll and gets rid of that hay smell. i have a small tent i use for drying. i have a small phresh filter hooked to a 4 inch booster fan. the fan turn on for 15 minutes, off for 45, keeps the air fresh, but doesn't make things dry out too fast.
 
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