Amber Glass BHO

Unnk said:

its any residual moisture really

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well,....yeah.

But what?

We have established this already (something is leaving)....what 'specifically' do you think it is?

water that was in the plant material in the first place?

really only thing i could think of honestly

Buddy Hemphill said:

well,....yeah.

But what?

We have established this already (something is leaving)....what 'specifically' do you think it is?

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essential oil.

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love me some errls

I hope you don't mind if I interject a slightly different approach. I'm not a whipper and beater. I build what you describe as shatter, basically a crystal like substance. But it only stays in this state if kept in a near to freezing state. So this is a seasonal procedure for me (winter).

I've modified a Kleen Kanteen as an extractor, and extract outdoors on a nice day maybe in the upper 20's to 30's. I shoot with no heat, but use a heating pad to remove butane after extraction.

Here's where I depart from your path. After the butane fluid is gone, I turn off the heating pad (it was on low). I poke all the bubbles and let it set for awhile outdoors to vent off tane. I then take it indoors to rm temp and cover loose. I leave the shit alone for at least 2 days (I pot any bubbles after a day). I then take to garage (freeze it) for at least a day. Now scrap with razor it's a spay of crystal THC. I've built a deflector that I clap to a razor blade to keep my knuckles from becoming fly paper.

If kept in a frozen state it will be manageable, if allowed to reach rm temp it's the stickiest shit you can imagine. I like to screen all my sugar leaf for keif then build a hash bar - keif, shatter, keif. Now its quite manageable (but I still like to store it frozen)

Hope you dodn't mind a frozen approach.

WattSaver said:

I hope you don't mind if I interject a slightly different approach. I'm not a whipper and beater. I build what you describe as shatter, basically a crystal like substance. But it only stays in this state if kept in a near to freezing state. So this is a seasonal procedure for me (winter).

I've modified a Kleen Kanteen as an extractor, and extract outdoors on a nice day maybe in the upper 20's to 30's. I shoot with no heat, but use a heating pad to remove butane after extraction.

Here's where I depart from your path. After the butane fluid is gone, I turn off the heating pad (it was on low). I poke all the bubbles and let it set for awhile outdoors to vent off tane. I then take it indoors to rm temp and cover loose. I leave the shit alone for at least 2 days (I pot any bubbles after a day). I then take to garage (freeze it) for at least a day. Now scrap with razor it's a spay of crystal THC. I've built a deflector that I clap to a razor blade to keep my knuckles from becoming fly paper.

If kept in a frozen state it will be manageable, if allowed to reach rm temp it's the stickiest shit you can imagine. I like to screen all my sugar leaf for keif then build a hash bar - keif, shatter, keif. Now its quite manageable (but I still like to store it frozen)

Hope you dodn't mind a frozen approach.

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that is for sure a interesting method, i might have to try it one day...but i thought if you had to keep it in the freezer it isnt technically "shatter" just frozen "oil", or atleast thats what i was told by other BHOers..., i dont understand these terminologies, ahha

yo hillbillyz wo wana makz some bho br0 use non flamable bootane !

zo0t said:

yo hillbillyz wo wana makz some bho br0 use non flamable bootane !

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Nah...its best to pay one of the guys hanging aroung outside Home Depo or downtown, where the rent-a-bums gather. They will work for pennies.


That way if theres an explosion it doesn't really matter.

No such thing as non flamable bootane.

You just gotta make sure its the disenfranchised that get burned up in the event of an accident.

Bublonichronic said:

that is for sure a interesting method, i might have to try it one day...but i thought if you had to keep it in the freezer it isnt technically "shatter" just frozen "oil", or atleast thats what i was told by other BHOers..., i dont understand these terminologies, ahha

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I'm not sure of the terminology either. But I do know that if you give the earl time that all the butane will evaporate, and keeping it cold makes it fairly easy to handle.

WattSaver, really not a fan of your method my man. First, when bho wont stay in a shatter form, or you need to keep it in the freezer...i feel you didn't purge it well enough. With little to no heat...the bho is to viscous to allow a lot of trapped butane to escape. Freezing it does nothing but freeze the butane in with the bho.

"I build what you describe as shatter, basically a crystal like substance. But it only stays in this state if kept in a near to freezing state" So if you don't keep it in the freezer it will butter up on you after a few weeks to a month?

im with washed here the only thing freezing would do imo would be to trap butane. You wanna lower the viscousity of your oil to allow the butane trapped in the lower layers to escape.

not all strains in my experience will shattter but most will so if your having to keep it in the freeze for shatter each and every strain you run you got some tane in there buddy.

WattSaver said:

I hope you don't mind if I interject a slightly different approach. I'm not a whipper and beater. I build what you describe as shatter, basically a crystal like substance. But it only stays in this state if kept in a near to freezing state. So this is a seasonal procedure for me (winter).

I've modified a Kleen Kanteen as an extractor, and extract outdoors on a nice day maybe in the upper 20's to 30's. I shoot with no heat, but use a heating pad to remove butane after extraction.

Here's where I depart from your path. After the butane fluid is gone, I turn off the heating pad (it was on low). I poke all the bubbles and let it set for awhile outdoors to vent off tane. I then take it indoors to rm temp and cover loose. I leave the shit alone for at least 2 days (I pot any bubbles after a day). I then take to garage (freeze it) for at least a day. Now scrap with razor it's a spay of crystal THC. I've built a deflector that I clap to a razor blade to keep my knuckles from becoming fly paper.

If kept in a frozen state it will be manageable, if allowed to reach rm temp it's the stickiest shit you can imagine. I like to screen all my sugar leaf for keif then build a hash bar - keif, shatter, keif. Now its quite manageable (but I still like to store it frozen)

Hope you dodn't mind a frozen approach.

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crazy...

I think you "might" wanna try using a more "tried and true" tech....


its great to get the ole wheels to spinnin...but improperly purged BHO is reaaaaaaaallllly bad for you.

I see alot of people coming up with their own little twists on BHO. I think its because BHO is like this cool little chem experiment anybody can do at home. It hisses....bubbles....it pops. I pop my little bubbles with a torch!, its fun.

The thing is...its still wet chemistry, and without a proper knowledge of organic solvents (yes, the net CAN teach you!) ...I would suggest a different purge tech. For ya own good homie!...no diss to your tech intended!!

Heres another tip..

I dont do small runs because I cant tell what I have going on as easily with bigger runs.


Anybody ever distilled anything? Like...watched the thermometer as different things reached their boiling points and went over?


When you can HOLD a constant 25-30 inches you are close. It will seem impossible to keep up with the bubbles until you get close to removing the solvent....then all of the sudden you start holding that vac longer and longer....this is your clue to start watching hard for the bubbles to cease....its getting close to being ready.

I want mine on for every hour it has to be....but not one second more. I always give it a few good hours with vac holding steady though...for good measure.


I may get flamed for this...but fuck a bunch of worrying over a little decarboxylizing...I dont care if my oil is a little sleepy...its friggin oil!

I run it up to 350 degrees for 2 minutes ( at all the vac I can muster ) to expel anything left....and generally to make me feel better about 'not!' having solvents in my bong.

Heres an engineering ??? I cant get my head around.

Plus I am really high....weak excuse I know....but I cant figure this one out without spending money. And I aint into that today....



What happpens to vac pressure (in my chamber, of course) if I hook up TWO vac sources to the chamber?

Like 2 electric pumps... or 2 Miteys?

I mean...where is the point of diminishing return.

It seems like I would get an increase...but if a Mitey will pull 25"s...it doesn't seem like 2 will pull 50"s....or maybe it will....fuck

somebody save me...my brains are starting to quiver.

Matt Rize hit the nail on the head, btw....


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Terpenes – Terpenes are the major components of resin, and of essential oils and extracts produced from resin. Terpenes function as smell and taste molecules, and also as bio-synthetic building blocks for the plant. About 10-29 percent of marijuana smoke resin is composed of terpenes. The percentage of terpenes and the ratios in which they are found vary from plant to plant variety. Age, maturation, collection methods, climate, and weather all affect terpene and flavonoid production. Terpenes are produced in the tricomes, the same glands where THC is produced.
The unique smell of cannabis does not arise from Cannabinoids, but from over 100 Terpenoid compounds. I really wanted to understand the smell and the taste of Medical Cannabis. I want to understand how the smell will help guide me to the right medicine for the right ailments. I found this information fascinating and useful in achieving the best medicinal cannabis for specific ailments.
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Those in Bold are considered the primary because they are the most known and tested that I am able to find. I am continuing to dig deep.

Buddy Hemphill said:

Heres an engineering ??? I cant get my head around.

Plus I am really high....weak excuse I know....but I cant figure this one out without spending money. And I aint into that today....



What happpens to vac pressure (in my chamber, of course) if I hook up TWO vac sources to the chamber?

Like 2 electric pumps... or 2 Miteys?

I mean...where is the point of diminishing return.

It seems like I would get an increase...but if a Mitey will pull 25"s...it doesn't seem like 2 will pull 50"s....or maybe it will....fuck

somebody save me...my brains are starting to quiver.

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ahha,.... [youtube]DvOHbxBAEN8[/youtube]

atleast this thread died quickly,ahha..dan...howd it turn out? no pics of the final product of the vac purge?

unnk said:

lol once you dabbed its almost impossible to go back to just herb

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so so true.

i dunno, i did a bunch of dabbin....i still prefer fresh flowers, nothin like a nice J of fresh herb

chiefpuffaloe said:

im with washed here the only thing freezing would do imo would be to trap butane. You wanna lower the viscousity of your oil to allow the butane trapped in the lower layers to escape.

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^^ This right here is kind of important. The more heat, the less resinous/sappy/oily the product is, the more the butane is likely to escape. Keeping in mind that there is a point where you start losing things from the oil itself which brings in buddy's post that lists the bp, and probably causes 'shatter' which might as well be water loss along with traces. People are testing in at the low 60's at best (%).

Somehow made it through the entire thread trying to make up my mind on whether to butane or not. I think I'm much less likely to go through the hassle.