AMSTERDAM Fingerprinting Customers

videoman40

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AMSTERDAM, Netherlands: Coffee shops licensed to sell marijuana in the southern Dutch city of Maastricht will begin fingerprinting customers and scanning ...link to the news.

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands: Coffee shops licensed to sell marijuana in the southern Dutch city of Maastricht will begin fingerprinting customers and scanning their IDs this summer, a spokesman for the shops said Wednesday.
The measures are aimed at ensuring the rules of the Netherlands famed tolerance policy are not violated, which could lead to shops being closed, said Marc Josemans, chairman of the Union of Maastricht's Coffee Shops.
"This is not something that we are doing willingly, but with pain in our hearts," Josemans told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Wednesday. He said shops in Rotterdam and several Dutch border cities were considering following suit.
"We're very afraid we're going to lose customers over this, and to be honest we're even a little ashamed we're doing it, but the City of Maastricht has such harsh punishments that we don't feel we have any choice," he said.
Marijuana is technically illegal in the Netherlands, but cities may license shops to sell no more than 5 grams (less than a quarter ounce) per customer per day. The shops may not sell to anyone under 18, nor permit drugs other than marijuana or hashish on the premises.

Since Maastricht Mayor Gerd Leers took office in 2002, police have strictly enforced the rules, and shops found in violation are automatically closed for a minimum of three months for a single infraction, six months for a second offense, and permanently for a third.
As a result, 11 of Maastricht's 26 licensed shops have been closed, leaving just 15 open.
Josemans, who is also owner of the "Easy Going" coffee shop, said the electronic system would be tested at his store Aug. 1 and used by all licensed stores by September.
Fingerprints would be coupled with a digital photograph and a scan of customers' ID cards — removing all personal information except date of birth — and then stored on a computer system at the shop.
When a customer wants to buy weed, he will have to prove that he or she is of age, and has not already purchased the 5-gram limit that day at the same store.
"We're not going to give this information to anybody else, and we're not linked to each other or the Internet," Josemans said.
He said the shops already had video surveillance cameras and cooperated with police in criminal investigations, but the stored fingerprints would be too low in quality for use by police.
Because of Maastricht's location near the border with Belgium and Germany and not far from France, the city receives 4.5 million "drugs tourists" per year who come just to buy weed and then drive home again.
City spokesman Math Wijnands said the drug trade brought a host of problems with it, most notably petty criminals who seek to sell marijuana or other drugs in the neighborhood of the licensed coffee shops.
"They know that they have a target group here, but they go about their business in an aggressive manner," Wijnands said. "That causes problems in the city center."
The city is currently negotiating to move more than half of the remaining shops to the outskirts of town — angering neighboring countries like Belgium who object to what amount to marijuana drive-through stores on their doorsteps.
Wijnands confirmed that the city was aware of the plan by the shops to store customer data, and approved.
"If they're going to take ID checks into their own hands and obey the rules as much as possible, then that's only to be applauded," he said.
Josemans said the system had been vetted with the Netherlands' digital privacy watchdog, known by its Dutch acronym CBP, and did not violate any laws. A CBP spokeswoman could not immediately confirm that.


 

jesus3

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Because of Maastricht's location near the border with Belgium and Germany and not far from France, the city receives 4,5million "drugs tourists" per year who come just to buy weed and then drive home again.
 

midgradeindasouth

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Damn.
So what is the purpose of this?
Is it to make sure the customers are of age?
Is it to make sure that they are not buying more than their 5g limit?

Or is this just another way for the pigs to track supposed criminals?

I am not sure it would be beneficial for anyone.
Sounds more like a half ass attempt to show they are taking some kind of action.
 

skunkushybrid

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This is true abudsmoker, this so-called decriminilisation in the netherlands is getting harder and harder to maintain. Every year, coffee shops are closing as stricter and stricter guidelines come in.

Believe it or not the Netherlands are under immense pressure from the US government as much of it's youth like to vacate there. Not to mention all the other countries directly/indirectly bordering Holland.

The new mecca for cannabis will be Canada.
 

Jordy Villain

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The new mecca for cannabis will be Canada.
I love the netherlands and the aire that surrounds 'Amsterdam' and the Cannibus Cup but i am DOWN for Canada to be pot central of the new millenium. It's WAY closer. eh.. actually it should be both. one on either side of the pond. whaddya say?
 

skunkushybrid

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I love the netherlands and the aire that surrounds 'Amsterdam' and the Cannibus Cup but i am DOWN for Canada to be pot central of the new millenium. It's WAY closer. eh.. actually it should be both. one on either side of the pond. whaddya say?
Yeah, that'd be good. The rest of the world would have to stand up and take notice, maybe even a few more countries would follow suit.
 

Grubs

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I think California should finish legalizing so they could become the pot capital of the world. I figure it would take about 2 weeks to take over.
 

styxxoo1

Member
Damn.
So what is the purpose of this?
Is it to make sure the customers are of age?
Is it to make sure that they are not buying more than their 5g limit?

Or is this just another way for the pigs to track supposed criminals?

I am not sure it would be beneficial for anyone.
Sounds more like a half ass attempt to show they are taking some kind of action.
Live in Holland.. Germany and France are bitching about weed traffic from border citys... We have to show them somthing now don't we ?
 

tebor

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Because of Maastricht's location near the border with Belgium and Germany and not far from France, the city receives 4,5million "drugs tourists" per year who come just to buy weed and then drive home again.
that should be good for the local economy. right?
 

dontexist21

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Once they see how much money they are going to lose, and illegal drug trade rising again, I am sure that they are going to have second thoughts. People are still going to make the trip to go their and buy weed, just not under the laws that are presently there.
 

krustofskie

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Its all scaremongering. The dutch are trying to appease their neighbours by saying they will take measures but in reality they would never do anything to stop the "drug tourists" as its a huge amount of money to lose, not just from drug sales, pot smokers do do more than just smoke pot.

There's even the problem of the European union that all member states have all the rights of the people born in that country. Me being English can go to Amsterdam and I have equal rights to the dutch that live there, by stopping European tourists from buying or forcing them to give prints, thus treating them differently from the natives they would be breaking European law. This could be extended to those outside of the European union but it would be uninforceable as you would have to check every bodies passport and when traveling abroad who carries there passport with them all the time, don't most people keep the passport locked up safe in the hotel* (*change to suit where your staying)
 

CrackerJax

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There is only one country where weed is actually legal.

Czechoslovakia. Perhaps the only truly logical ppl on the planet.
 
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