~*Another_Led_Thread*~

I'm kinda embarassed... I'm not sure why we would use IR?

It sounds like you are mimicking real life, just as the sun sets over the horizon, with the 5 minutes?

Sounds good... I want to try. I can probably google for a bulb... or are these like shower heat lamps?

Anyway, the HPS is probably helping quite a bit--even though it doesn't directly hit the plants under LED, I'm sure the ambient light is helping. I use CO2 as well

Did I mention that when I transfer plants from under the LED to under the HPS they tend to burn?! I wonder if the [lack of] UV from the LEDs is like.. not having a suntan and going outside on a hot summer day? with no sunscreen?... just an observation so far that I was not expecting.

I think the HPS causes way more transpiration out of the leaf hence the burning. The HPS doesn't put out any uv actually... I'll bet all those additional specrtums simply cause more heat to be transfered to the leaf.

read "experiments at the cutting edge", search for it. Has a great explanation about the IR theory. It is the same thing as a shower heat bulb.

HOW DO YOU GET CO2?!?

So jealous. I used my 20oz Paintball tank for a week once...

You're correct vulcan.

The inverse square law sounds so mean!... Cause it is. It's robbing every led grower, and points out the absurd use of power which HIDS employ.

You can find infared leds... however I have to think about this in terms of cost efficiency. Those leds are much more expensive. I think is is far cheaper to simply pick up one of these bathroom heat bulbs at hemp depot or whatever.
Same thing with uvb dees and reptile uvb cfl bulbs.

Adding in different design processes to accomadate these different frequencies is just not worth the cost of covering it through leds.

The Theorem Innovations lamp uses said spectrums... and it costs 1400 dollars. Ideal? Yes. Just not reasonable.

Good info--thanks Treeth!

I use 20-lb CO2 tanks and simply swap them out every 2 weeks or so at the local gas company (they think I have a soda fountain in a mom+pop store hehe... paintballing works too--but you would have to be doing a lot for it to make sense.... brewing beer is not a good excuse... hint hint)

Anyway. The CO2 ppm controller controls the gas valve and keeps the ppm wherever I want.. fuzzy logic is sweet! I don't even vent my room anymore... completely sealed with CO2, A/C and a couple dehumidifiers. It's the shit. Oh, and of course the carbon filter.

The last major adjustment I want to make is.... replace the other HPS with LED!

Sigh.. no more posting LED results for me! Too many assholes on this site.

I will keep the proof to myself. Still haven't completed a full crop yet.

For anyone looking into LEDs--I know they work.

wondering if any of you guys have seen this site? http://www.greenpinelane.com/

repvip said:

Sigh.. no more posting LED results for me! Too many assholes on this site.

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What are you doing growing with led anyway? Why don't you get a REAL light? j/k

Seriously though, there is a real lack of knowledge about led growing. Virtually every led thread ends up being flooded by people saying led sucks. I'm sorry there are a bunch of morons giving you shit. I hope you will reconsider, I was really enjoying your contributions to this thread.

Was jsut Searching arounb and this was all i found, hasnt been looked at in a while but maybe some will. was just wondering if any1 has a way to build thier own led panel? i want to but aint sure on LEDS to use and what other things will be needed for the leds not to blow or just start my house on fire lol. was looking into using a couple of the red and blue 4-Pin High Brightness Red Power LED but im not sure if this is what i want to be growing under or how amny would be nesecary. I could go out and buy one but their kind of expensive and i like to use my hands and do stuff involving electric. Thanx

Hi im interested in led technology and its use in growing. subbed!

Id just like to start out by saying i can tell you stright up this is no scam. Treeth is legitimate in what he says and he can make some awesome dee panels w00t!.. Treeth, You know im in, I could use a unit to fit into a small cabinet to get some cuttings flowering sog style... im not sure what your setup looks like but i think i may work for this type of application.. Send me a private message and let me know what the dealeo is on getting these things rolling. I never did get that 600W HPS so i will just stick with my 250 for now and see how it rides out. Anyway im not sure if your offering to build units for people to test or if your looking for research money, seeing as im broke (for now) id only be interested in buying a unit as a test run. In the future investment is always a possibility.

Thanks again friend and great post, as always!

Also send me a few pics im dieing to see what your design looks like