NLXSK1
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You got to be basically broke.You do know the guidelines for medicaid
You got to be basically broke.You do know the guidelines for medicaid
So how does one get on medicaid? I know, my wife works for a Dr.You got to be basically broke.
I know somebody worth more than a million who does carry coverage. Cancer or serious injury like a child's broken neck can rack up costs in the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars over a persons life.People I know worth a million plus don't buy insurance.
Fuck no I don't live off charity, I pay all my bills. I know the hospital didn't have to reduce my bill...but they did because I paid cash.We agree here, i think. Does your family go without any health care coverage?
They were under no obligation to reduce that bill. Do you live your life depending on charity?
I'm talking about people with a mil of cash. Not net worth. A mil is nothing today.I know somebody worth more than a million who does carry coverage. Cancer or serious injury like a child's broken neck can rack up costs in the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars over a persons life.
Tens of millions? Yeah, I can see how they would not carry medical coverage, or at least the kind us working slugs need.
You apply for it through the government. I know, my dad was on it.So how does one get on medicaid? I know, my wife works for a Dr.
I agree but there is a flaw with that i mean i have money i eat healthy there fore usually never sick i get placed into a group with the same people our premiums are less because were healthy eat and diet properlyInsurance companies always win in the long run. They are in the system for a profit and will price coverage accordingly. What you describe is similar to getting money back from federal tax withholdings at the end of the year. Sure feels good seeing that check but it's better to get zero back rather than an interest free loan to the government that pays out at the end of the year.
Why are insurance companies in the business of providing health care coverage anyway? Insurance should be used to protect a person from a rare but ruinous event, like house fire or an automobile accident, where the cost is shared among a pool of people, many of whom don't experience the same event at the same time. We all use and need medical attention at one time or another.
As long as we are brainstorming, how about universal health care coverage? Health care and education are two of the best investments society can make to establish a healthy economy. Medical costs are a big cause of personal bankruptcy even when a person is insured. Or at least that was the case before the ACA.
it is in Thailand over 2.3 million i am a king there and why i plan to move there soonI'm talking about people with a mil of cash. Not net worth. A mil is nothing today.
There are already all kinds of groups, those dont have to be eliminated.I agree but there is a flaw with that i mean i have money i eat healthy there fore usually never sick i get placed into a group with the same people our premiums are less because were healthy eat and diet properly
now you have a lower income family put into same group kids are unhealthy beause of there hunger so sickkness and disease is common there placed into a group where premiums are high because percentages are percentages
I sure do not want them in my group my premiums will increase from there usage right
So how can it really equal out
We had the system you describe. It was the coverage before the ACA. People who didn't have the means waited until a problem became a crisis and the ER had to accept them. ER costs were spread out in bills to everybody else, mostly insurance providers who then raised their premiums at rates way above inflation.Well, I propose a 2 edge sword. On the one side, everyone would be responsible for their medical costs. So nobody gets a free ride to the hospital.
Here is how it would work. If you went to the emergency room they would take care of you, no questions asked. However, you would owe the bill. If you couldnt pay the bill then a portion of your paycheck would be taken to cover the costs. If you had no income then you would still be taken care of.
That way we are paying for all the healthcare for the people who cannot afford it but not socializing a portion of our country in the name of equal healthcare.
We always had universal healthcare, that was a lie told to us by the Democrats.
And people in Arizona have monthly premium payments that exceed their mortgages but fuck them right? Next year premium increases will be a minimum of 50% and over 75% for Maricopa county but fuck all those people because 20 million more people got a free ride... WHEE!!!We had the system you describe. It was the coverage before the ACA. People who didn't have the means waited until a problem became a crisis and the ER had to accept them. ER costs were spread out in bills to everybody else, mostly insurance providers who then raised their premiums at rates way above inflation.
This isn't about compassion, it's about providing good medical care at costs on par with other developed nations. We pay a lot more with worse outcomes than any comparable industrialized nation. ER is the most expensive place to receive medical treatment. One goal of the ACA was to reduce overall healthcare costs. It did this by making maintenance care and out patient coverage available to people who would otherwise end up in ER without the means to pay.
I don't know what Trump plans but there are 20 million people who did not have coverage before ACA that now have it. If we go back to the way it was before the ACA, hospital costs will just go up and medical care will not be as good as it can be.
Take a million dollars. Subtract 500,000 from it. How much is left? Losing that money is called "risk". If you can absorb that kind of risk and live with half your savings, then insurance isn't worth it.I'm talking about people with a mil of cash. Not net worth. A mil is nothing today.
Nice sock puppet account Justin_ new member and right into politics section enjoy your short staymost of the worst protests are coming from states that didnt matter in this election,i think they are just butthurt in cali and philly because they never mattered this year.trump ignored the places like this where he knew he would lose and focused on swing states.
popular vote means nothing dude guess what Buck was popular and guess what he lost his bet lol and has gone MIAWhen someone wins the popular vote and loses the "electoral vote" there is definitely a reason to protest.
The people didn't choose this President.
What you described -- letting hospitals defray ER costs on other patients -- is what we had before the ACA. It was already part of your health care costs if you used anybody associated with the medical care system. So, I don't know what you are talking about. You want hospitals in your area, don't you? If so, then somehow those indigent ER patients that the hospital treats had to be paid for.And people in Arizona have monthly premium payments that exceed their mortgages but fuck them right? Next year premium increases will be a minimum of 50% and over 75% for Maricopa county but fuck all those people because 20 million more people got a free ride... WHEE!!!
Obamacare was designed to fail and in doing so cause so much pain and suffering that a single payer system was the only option. I have been explaining this for 10 years now and here we are.
You dont have a right for me to pay for your healthcare.