ANY & ALL ways to make wax,bho,shatter,crumble,budder,etc.

Ok I am brand new to making bho. Unfortunately I live in a non legal state and cannot get on the regular. Trying to make this thread for anybody to explain in detail their way of making it no matter what kind or way you use. Would be a nice thread to have all info as possible from as many different sources to help newbs out or share new info. I understand youtube is available but they are not very good explainers. So let's learn how to make wax!

Since you're "brand new to making bho" spare yourself the trouble, money and danger and just squish it. It's a cleaner product, cheaper, easier and most of all safer to make. It's a no brainer.

its just not as good..


since he's asking about bho, and not other methods to make concentrates...lol

i would say check out some of the threads weve already made
bro. use the search feature or go nack a page or so...on riu, try the bho wax tutorial by guzias1 i think or twitch.. fadedawg has also given pretty simple answers. temp, vac, time. but as the compound ratios can be so varied you kinda have to play by ear.

if your not looking for specific consistency (what i recommend) its much easier.

you could also pm some of the members directly to avoid inevitable nonsense that will probly arise shortly.






are you just wanting the basics on how to make bho?
maybe also try googling skunkpharm.. been a while sinve i visited but may offer insight

I have the basic just trying to get all different ideas on any and all ways to make bho or how to make it better or purge tips I basically have it until I am done purging with hot water. After that I am a little lost on making it into a different consistency or texture like honeycomb over shatter. Only going to run an Oz at a time prob I no there are other threads I've searched and can't find much without looking through hundreds of dif threads. I just haven't found an easy detailed explanation yet that I can fully understand and feel like I can do it myself. And no I'm not doing the hair straightener lol that's basically crack for weed if I was that desperate. Just want to be able to make the best wax around steady watchin youtube and twitch vids.

And for everyone to be stoned on here mostly it sure seems to be a lot of negative feedback on threads lol. U only have to click the back button one more time

So example: on temp. I've seen that you want to keep under 110 for entire purge or terpenes will be lost then I've seen others say 130 to 140 during vacuum is that different 110 being for first butane boil off?and is there a limit to how long u should purge butane in hot water before vacuum purge like will even the wax evaporate if you leave it too long or does it stop purging after a certain time? Any help is appreciated il still be reading threads thanks.

Our culture evolved from a secret society where nuances like a GC/MS were uncommon, and quality was judged by how good a "shit" it was.

Number one Concentrate rule is that every maker considers his own stuff at least the gooood shit, but most probably the killer shit or better grade.

Number two Concentrate rule is that much process secrecy and misdirection is involved, because the artisans who have been at for very long, are by definition outlaws, with an outlaw defined as being someone operating outside the law.

Number one Outlaw rule is to stay out of trouble by keeping your mouth shut.

Number two Outlaw rule is to misdirect to stay away from trouble.

Number three Concentrate rule is that many of the ooooooold Artisans and enterprising young Artisans, would like to get paid for their labors and giving away their secrets is counter productive with regard to their mystique and demand, aka commercial interests.

Number one forum rule is that we are here to learn and share, so add students and knowledgeable sources willing to do their best at both endeavors.

Number two forum rule is that there is pathology in the populous, soooo stir in the statistically present loonies, some of which are of course also knowledgeable resources, with their egocentric needs, and that is where you now stand.

Number three forum rule, is that the fish trap exists only because of the fish. There are many ways to design an effective fish trap, and as long as it gets the same fish, design is of lesser importance than obtaining the fish.

Sooooo, that leads us to Number two forum rule, and that is that you listen to it all, use what you can, and discard the rest. It either works for you personally, or it doesn't, regardless of how golden it was for the source.

I hope that gives you insight as to why there are so many conflicting thoughts and different fish traps out there, but suggest that you use the search function and research all the different thoughts, including why the artisan considers it golden and the critique of his peers. That may sound onerous, but if you truly want to understand the available processes, that is how you do it, because once you hitch your wagon to a star, you see things only from the stars perspective.

One perspective is Skunk Pharm Research, which can be found at http://skunkpharmresearch.com/. I and my partners created it as a resource we can point to when answering open ended questions like your own.

May I suggest that after perusing the searched items on this forum and checking out SPR, that you ask specific questions that the knowledgeable denizens of this forum can help you sort out.

Germama said:

So example: on temp. I've seen that you want to keep under 110 for entire purge or terpenes will be lost then I've seen others say 130 to 140 during vacuum is that different 110 being for first butane boil off?and is there a limit to how long u should purge butane in hot water before vacuum purge like will even the wax evaporate if you leave it too long or does it stop purging after a certain time? Any help is appreciated il still be reading threads thanks.

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I infer you are open blasting, which I removed from the SPR site because of the number of brothers and sisters blowing themselves up doing the process indoors, but the way we did it before evolving to closed loop, was to discharge the column into a deep container floating in hot tap water, and allow it to bubble until it stopped, before scraping it out and smearing it into a thin film.

The actual temperature varies by strain, wax content, etc, but I heat the thin film in an oven until the puddle is fully molten, so that the bubbles can readily escape. Typically that is between 110 and 120F, but is higher if it is winterized with ethanol, because of the high surface tension it creates, blowing humongous bubbles.

Once it melts, I pull a vacuum and ratchet it up, halting when the puddle flurries with bubbles and ratcheting it down again as soon as it calms down, until I reach -29.5" Hg, where I flip it and repeat the cycle until the solvent bubbles cease.

Thanks fade can anyone help on best vac pump degassing chamber? Best value vac has 3 different kinds shatter vac, glass, and aluminum is there any difference that I will notice doing small runs

And great info on SPR awsome site!

So far my process as I understand is to cut up dried buds stuff in tube squeeze 1 can butane per Oz, beginning purge in Pyrex in hot sand until reaction slows or stops, secondary purge scrape and put onto pp in vac chamber heat to 90-100 f then what? I turn vac pump on until it fluffy up and shut off repeat until it doesn't fluff anymore then leave on full vac for extended period? Never used vac pump before so not sure how they work yet either can't be much I work with pretty heavy equipment should catch on fast.

I'm in the same boat, waiting for my kit to arrive then i'll be doing my first blast

Nice what kit about to order the best value vac 3 cfm 2 stage 3 gal alum chamber and heat pad.

Germama said:

So far my process as I understand is to cut up dried buds stuff in tube squeeze 1 can butane per Oz, beginning purge in Pyrex in hot sand until reaction slows or stops, secondary purge scrape and put onto pp in vac chamber heat to 90-100 f then what?

Judge the exact temperature by watching your thin film puddle. It needs to be fully molten when you start pulling vacuum. Keep the films thin, for fastest purge, so as to retain the greatest number of volatile aromatic hydrocarbons.

I turn vac pump on until it fluffy up and shut off repeat until it doesn't fluff anymore then leave on full vac for extended period? Never used vac pump before so not sure how they work yet either can't be much I work with pretty heavy equipment should catch on fast.

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I would describe the action as a flurry of bubbling, rather than fluffing up. That means fast and furious.

If you stop pulling the vacuum lower, and allow it to flurry, it will eventually slow down to just bubbling, at which time you lower the vacuum until it flurries again.

When you reach -29.5 and the flurries have subsided. Pull it out of the oven, cool it down enough to flip, and stick back in the oven and repeat the above procedure, usually once or twice.

If you are in the 110/120F range, decarboxylation is relatively slow, so virtually all the bubbles you see are solvent or water.

When the bubbles stop, pull it out of the oven and let air and set up.

I think you should keep that color.. its soothing on my morning eyes

So u want to heat up the oil to 110 before you pull the first vacuum right? And slowly pull until slows bubbling then pill to full vac.

Germama said:

So u want to heat up the oil to 110 before you pull the first vacuum right? And slowly pull until slows bubbling then pill to full vac.

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It is easier and faster to heat before pulling the vacuum, because there is no convection in a vacuum.

I just uploaded my most used method, here's a link.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/medicalmikes-guide-to-bho-1.899993/#post-12340842
Yes rosin is safer and easier to make and good for first time extractors, I think it's a waste of weed the yeild sucks unless you use hash or keif.
I get a 15%+ yield with my method of bho

MedicalMike420 said:

I just uploaded my most used method, here's a link.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/medicalmikes-guide-to-bho-1.899993/#post-12340842
Yes rosin is safer and easier to make and good for first time extractors, I think it's a waste of weed the yeild sucks unless you use hash or keif.
I get a 15%+ yield with my method of bho

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Rosin yields dont suck.Im routinely hitting 20-25% on flower rosin and 40-60% with sift or hash.

lio lacidem said:

Rosin yields dont suck.Im routinely hitting 20-25% on flower rosin and 40-60% with sift or hash.

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I've never had any luck with it, but I never bought a real press. I do it with my keif in a pressing screen and hair straightener. I really love BHO. Never had a bad yeild With butane. What temp do you press at if you don't mind me asking.