DubsFan
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The nugs shouldn't change color. The reason your leaves are changing color is because the only nutrient source left is in the leaves. Your nugs are drawing from that.
any flushing or plant rinsing ideas?
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owl
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i suppose none of you guys saw this thread about, "The never ending abuse of Phosphorous (Bloom foods) to enhance flowering" created by Uncle Ben.
nor this quote that Roseman posted up in the same thread, here
nor this quote that Roseman posted up in the same thread, here
but, again, when it comes down to it, it is all personal preference if you want to be a crappy grower or not
Prosperous
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so my buds being a lighter color is a deficency? should i try mixing a low nitrogen supp with my water? I have a 6-0-0 fert to up my N? Mix it at 1/4 the recommended amount and see if that gets my color back? I know this is personal opinion at this point in time but are there any big consequences to doin this?
owl
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yeah the plant is seeing some deficiency from what you described. yeah, try adding in a little bit of your veg nute which should have N (less than you would use during veg).
the only way you will know if it is working is by the color coming back or no other leaves going yellow and dying off.
big consequences from flushing or adding N?
consequences from flushing would be a lower yield than what can be obtained from feeding the plant nutes up until harvest precluding the "flushing stage". the consequences are not necessarily "dire" by any means, but the fact of the matter is that the plant is being held back from metabolizing by not giving it nutrients to metabolize and nutrients that help metabolize which will not give an end product compared to a plant that has been given nutes and has not seen any deficiency.
the only way you will know if it is working is by the color coming back or no other leaves going yellow and dying off.
big consequences from flushing or adding N?
consequences from flushing would be a lower yield than what can be obtained from feeding the plant nutes up until harvest precluding the "flushing stage". the consequences are not necessarily "dire" by any means, but the fact of the matter is that the plant is being held back from metabolizing by not giving it nutrients to metabolize and nutrients that help metabolize which will not give an end product compared to a plant that has been given nutes and has not seen any deficiency.
owl
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i'm confused about the guess work and posting up photos. is that directed at me? or the person with the yellowing of leaves and such. i'll post up photos if it is me you are wanting to post up photos.
it doesn't surprise me that you have not seen a plant flushed, but it does surprise me that there are others on this board that do not flush and you have not seen it before.
DubsFan
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No that was directed to the OP.
The only grows I see on here where there is no flushing is usually a guy who can't wait to harvest and he litterally says "I should be flushing but am not."
Owl, I don't have a problem with you. We do things different and that's ok. No love lost dude. It's a dank site so I'm good.
Tell you what. I'll do a small grow and not flush. Just to see the difference. You do a grow and flush...fair?
owl
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holy hell, i did not realize i double posted. at first it threw me off seeing your post before this one because it seemed different from what i read at the time. i suppose i pressed submit two times, but to get to point.
i'm glad that their is no tension present, but a simple difference in perspective. kind of similar to the rainbow, no? we all see a rainbow, but it is impossible to see the exact same rainbow that someone else sees thanks to unique angle, lighting, etc. and i wholeheartedly agree that this site is dank; i love the way the information is organized and separated.
the other message board i frequently visit is cannabis culture (Red Eyed Owl). their way of organizing info is no slouch either, but it ticks me off that they limited their search back to later posts to one month back as opposed to 7 years - only able to search for posts, thread, etc that dates back to month ago.
now that isn't a significantly threatening ordeal for me to stop visiting that message board. i signed up sometime in 2004 and proceeded to lurk my ass off. and just recently i came across a site (BoardReader) that acts as a search engine that searches through message boards specifically. here is an example....
good ph pen
Google can do the same with their search engine, but they do not have the ability to filter out for posts, threads, etc. their filter only allows you to search for topics within different message boards. example...
good ph pen (via google)
I originally planned on creating a thread that shows clones that i have not flushed and ones that i have flushed. these clones will certainly come from the same mother plant. i will be also playing with some nute formulas i've been looking into.
i would love to see how your grow turns out without a flush, but that won't stop me from looking at other grows of yours.
i love lasagna, so much, that i would love to see the creation of it, by other individuals other than myself. one of the main reasons why i like message boards; i am able to see different perspectives by different individuals while sharing my own perspective.
bobonthewater202
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i reccomend floracleen by general hydro. if i live in a place with high chlorine content in the water and the tap water has made my hash actually taste like clorine. i tried two other flushing agents and they were really crappy i dont even want to mention their names on the internet machine (bad memories) plus the floracleen isnt organic but its not as harsh as the others(there are exemptions but i cant find them where i live so i have no experience to comment). The best reason is it really gets the nutes out of the soil to where i can recycle the soil. hope this helps
bobonthewater202
Active Member
some of the strains ive grown the buds are way lighter than the leaves but the leaves and thats the way its always grown since before i got the mantle to do it myself and trust me there is nothing wrong with the smoke at all. is this your first grow? and have grown these same strains? ive seen plants with really dark dark green leaves and buds that were way lighter green with a caramel hue from the thc crystals. one thing u need to remember is alot of pics look like nute deficiancy and so do alot of things that have nothing to do with nutes. Sometimes its the plants color when its finished during veg ive seen people that didnt know they had bugs (root knats, which technically causes a deficiancy but adding more nutes doesnt work until u control them) and just keep piling on the nutes. sorry message is so long. but bottom line is during flower they go deficiant on purpose because there last job before they die is to have babies and/or be smoked. good luck!!keep us posted!>
Prosperous
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well i just tried to load photos for the past hour and i can't get them uploaded from my computer. So sorry about that. Basically in the past week my fan leafs have gone yellow with brown areas also. some are dropping of also which from what i can tell is normal at this time. Some of my leafs growing out of the buds are going much lighter green. I'm still having lots of new growth yet so i'm keeping up on my nutes for now. my ph is still hanging at 6.5. No bugs that i can find. The plant isn't ready to be done though as my hairs haven't receded down into my buds at all and are completely milky white. I'll let ya know as things change and hopefully i can get some pics uploaded.
Prosperous
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so all my fan leaves are yellowing and falling off my plant. My hairs are still a solid milky white and haven't receded down into the buds at all. there is about 15% of the hairs orange. getting my buddy's magnifying glass tomorrow to check the tricks, still lots of new growth
dutc2006
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Some strains will be ready while they still have a majority of white pistils. I know people used to say harvest when the "hairs" are X% brown or whatever, it's hogwash. The hairs that are white when harvested will turn the same color when drying, trust me. Use trichomes as your indicator, but I'm sure you knew that. Also, just going back to the OP, I also recommend Clearex for your future flushes. Not only should you flush before harvest, but also after switching to flower, to help rid of the growing ferts. Clearex works like this: When you flush a plant with plain pH'ed water over the course of 2 weeks (recommended flushing period for soil, 1 week for hydro) it will begin to "sense" that it is not receiving nutrients, and will stop using up the nutrients stored in its' tissues. Clearex not only helps leach the salts from your medium, but emulates a 1/4 strength nutrient solution to encourage the plant to keep using its' nutrients while it really is not receiving any.
GreedAndVanity
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Flushing going into flower would only be benefitial to people who have actually overdone nuting their plants. Otherwise it is just inducing stress.
I switch between my nutrient regiments as slowly as I can.
Sure you don't want a bunch of N in your media at the end of flower but at the beginning of flower they should be experiencing the quickest growth of their lives. I personally attempt to keep their starch stores in their roots for flushing. Just my two coppers.
I switch between my nutrient regiments as slowly as I can.
Sure you don't want a bunch of N in your media at the end of flower but at the beginning of flower they should be experiencing the quickest growth of their lives. I personally attempt to keep their starch stores in their roots for flushing. Just my two coppers.
Prosperous
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well I went to my local grow shop and the guy recommended me using Power Zyme. It is a natural enzyme that stiumulates natural micro organizms that break down excess fertilizers while also helping root growth. Plants leaves have been yellowing and dropping like flies the past few days. say I'm down to about 50% of my original leafs. Still getting new bud growth. No more hairs changing and my trichs are still milky white except for on the new growth which they're still clear and developing. growing more and more impatient. Still haven't been able to upload photos. will keep trying though. thanks for the help.
edit i got these pics to load, they are from 5 days ago. have to load them all one at a time but eh better than nothing
edit i got these pics to load, they are from 5 days ago. have to load them all one at a time but eh better than nothing
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GreedAndVanity
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If leaves are going from bottom up yellow then I would suspect the plant has gone defficient for nitrogen. Most people cut it out for the most part during flowering...
Also those enzymes generally don't have real nutrients in them as well so if that is all you are using, along with soil, I would assume that you should have nuted atleast a little with veg type nutes.
Also those enzymes generally don't have real nutrients in them as well so if that is all you are using, along with soil, I would assume that you should have nuted atleast a little with veg type nutes.
Prosperous
Member
i'm pretty much to the end of flowering and am flushing now. Just using the enzyme in order to help flush it out now and naturally break up any excess ferts that may be in the soil. I plan on using it through out my next grow though. pretty much the leafs have all yellowed, dried up and fallen off the plant with the exception for a few leafs that are holding on. The buds have went back to regular green that they were. thinking i have a week and a half left till clipping. starting to see spots of amber trichs now. thanks to everyone for their help. try and get another pic update soon.
mudballs
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im gonna dig em all up just for you budReviving deal flushing threads.
edit:holy shit you wouldn't believe how many there really are lol
PadawanWarrior
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Well, you're gonna make some friends, lol.im gonna dig em all up just for you bud
edit:holy shit you wouldn't believe how many there really are lol