Anybody grow the Amanita Muscaria?

There are thousands of them here every year and no one pics them. My friend, who likes psychoactive mushrooms a lot, tried them and says "never more". I didn´t grow them and can´t see a point of doing so, but be carefull consuming them.

husita said:

There are thousands of them here every year and no one pics them. My friend, who likes psychoactive mushrooms a lot, tried them and says "never more". I didn´t grow them and can´t see a point of doing so, but be carefull consuming them.

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I think most people are the same here very few will indulge with them even though we get both aminata muscaria and aminata pantherina growing in the wild here but most will happily eat liberty caps or wavy caps to a lesser extent

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Do they make you trip though? Always heard conflicting info..I’m familiar with your mycology stuff on other platforms, you’d know more than I. Also lobby shrooms and eat them often haha

conor c said:

I think most people are the same here very few will indulge with them even though we get both aminata muscaria and aminata pantherina growing in the wild here but most will happily eat liberty caps or wavy caps to a lesser extent

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Pantherina is realy poisinous and dangerous, wouldn´t try it at all. Wavy caps or other psilocybes here too (systematics is realy complex, see for example: Borovička: Molecular phylogeny of Psilocybe cyanescens complex in Europe, with reference to the position of the secotioid Weraroa novae-zelandiae). I have one favourite spot which is more than enough for me. No need to grow or consume amanites mushrooms.

husita said:

Pantherina is realy poisinous and dangerous, wouldn´t try it at all. Wavy caps or other psilocybes here too (systematics is realy complex, see for example: Borovička: Molecular phylogeny of Psilocybe cyanescens complex in Europe, with reference to the position of the secotioid Weraroa novae-zelandiae). I have one favourite spot which is more than enough for me. No need to grow or consume amanites mushrooms.

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honestly I loved Amanita Muscaria and disagree that’s it’s a “no go”, it’s all about proper dosages

husita said:

Pantherina is realy poisinous and dangerous, wouldn´t try it at all. Wavy caps or other psilocybes here too (systematics is realy complex, see for example: Borovička: Molecular phylogeny of Psilocybe cyanescens complex in Europe, with reference to the position of the secotioid Weraroa novae-zelandiae). I have one favourite spot which is more than enough for me. No need to grow or consume amanites mushrooms.

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Yeah there's another species that's active and very like the cyanescens over here I can't remember the name behind with an a anyway the two can only be told apart under a microscope I think the only poisonous look alike to wavy caps we get is the gallerina unless I'm wrong and those don't bruise blue and I'm sure there spore colour is different too from the usual purple brown

I been eating dotz gummies every other weekend for months now. It's the only brand of amanita based edibles I've found that aren't loaded with all kinds of other funky additives, and only contains muscomol and ibotenic acid as the active ingredients. All processed correctly so you know what you're in for each time, without getting sick or anything like that. 100mg per gummy don't seem like much, but they are pretty powerful.

I wouldn't say you trip on them, but sometimes I get tracers and heightened visual senses. I haven't ate more than 2 gummies yet, but my buddy did and it knocked him out like a sleeping aid, lol. I never got a nice clean buzz like that when trying to dry and eat wild muscaria/pantherinas..

I prefer amanitas now, because its like the body high without the full on trip, and we can sit around the table and still drink beer and play cards/board games.

Check out iNaturalist to see if they're in your local area. People usually record their sightings in the winter.

I find thousands of them when I hunt for porcini, and have never had a desire to eat them. Might as well eat proper psilocybe.

The actives are muscimol and ibotenic acid. They are not proper hallucinogenic but some other sort of psychoactive.

In refreshing my knowlege of this mushroom I discovered that though poisoning (always a relative term) are relatively frequent, death from overdose is quite rare.

It is said that consumption of this variety among various ancient peoples gave rise to lore regarding "little people". Trolls, leprechauns and such.

I noticed a feeling of being watched and tiny movements in my peripheral vision so I can well imagine stories of little sentient creatures rustling about.

But I was consistently sick... like a fever and had some stomach issues.

It is also contended that Santa clause has its origins in mushroom myth. The colors are mimicked in Santa's cloths and Santa used to be a tiny fella.

Now don't quite me but I recall reindeer uncovering when from new snow and eating them.

Further, there were two classes of consumers..the rich, who ate them and the poor who drank the kiss of the rich for their own experience.

This bears out in the pharmacology as much of it is filtered and exits the body unchanged.

They say the pee is the preferable method as it results in a more pleasant experience.

I never went that deep into my exploration.

I have seen them in many places on many occasions.

Amanita Muscaria, while being psychoactive, can also be poisonous. They have varying degrees of ibotemic acid and muscarine, which can vary by locality. Also, everyone has a different tolerance to ibotemic acid andmuscarine, what makes one person sick may not affect another (it's rarely fatal). Remember too, that they are in the same family as the "death Angel", but easy to tell the difference. They grew real well under the redwoods of Humboldt county sometimes getting 8-10 inch caps. It is was me I'd stick to psilicybin mushrooms.

Pantharinas are technically less poisonous than amanitas, and contain less toxins and more muscimol.

Drop That Sound said:

Pantharinas are technically less poisonous than amanitas, and contain less toxins and more muscimol.

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Have I gotten them wrong? Yes, I have, the dangerous one is a. Bisporigera.
As was posted, the death angel.

These things grow everywhere in my neighborhood. This one was almost as big as a dinner plate!

They can actually be more or less potent depending on the season, and the amounts of UV they absorb from the sun when fruiting.

conor c said:

I don't think anyone grows it indoors or at all like they said it's always tied to a symbiotic relationship with a couple of tree species honestly you would be better growing cubensis or if your outdoors one of the other wood lovers you would have more success than way anyway where I live you can occasionally find aminata muscaria in the wild i never heard of anyone growing them though just like liberty caps that way there tied to decaying grass no one cultivates them

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So buy a small oak or whatever tree that's still planted in like a 1 gallon pot, transplant it to shallow wide container. Walla, get your shrooming on. Might require a little creativity but def doable

bignugs68 said:

So buy a small oak or whatever tree that's still planted in like a 1 gallon pot, transplant it to shallow wide container. Walla, get your shrooming on. Might require a little creativity but def doable

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Maybe but I think it's easier to wild forage than do yourself i think that's why you don't see folk growing it so much and I think birch trees are one of them tho I think there's a few tree species it has the symbiosis thing with

THEY'RE BAAAAAACK!

conor c said:

Maybe but I think it's easier to wild forage than do yourself i think that's why you don't see folk growing it so much and I think birch trees are one of them tho I think there's a few tree species it has the symbiosis thing with

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I’ve found them often in Redwood, cedar, and mixed fir environments.