Anyone want the craziest trip ever.....shrooms or acis just aint enough?

stoverdro said:

yeah i seen the video with joe rogan and i thought it was an ad cause i was like no way joe rogan is talkign about dmt.lol. yeah ive been looking how to make it but thats about it and someone told me its also the chemical your brain releases when you die? is this true.if so maybe it is the afterlife and you can visit your spirit. all i know is the place seems familiar cause i think thats when the other 90% of our brain we supposedly dont use may spark up and its jsut all memories and thoughts of oyur life....it really lets you know what kind of person you are maybe
all i know is im making some when i get home and im gonna try it with my brothers ya know.

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Ur brain releases a lot of DMT around when ur born, and when u die, from ur pineal gland aka The 3rd eye. Its supposed to be ur soul entering and leaving ur body. Ur brain also releases small amounts when u sleep. Its crazy to read up about and learn everything, def. the most interesting thing I ever studied in my life. Make sure when u do it, to remember all the rules. If u smoke it, do it right, 3 big hits and hold each in for as long as u can. If u ingest, take with an MAOI. And plz tell us what happened after u do it, thx.

man that stuff can kill i am 48 and we used that stuff when i was a young teenager(only a couple of times and a very weak tea)a couple of people in town died from the overdose so that was it no more for me...

Attempted suidcide is a pretty crazy trip as well. I mean everyone like getting all concerned for a person and all. The ambulance ride with the pretty lights and sirens. The huge hospital bill and the barage of pills they feed a person that "might" help. Yeah, listen to this guy, what a genius. Datura grows practically everywhere.

I'm sorry but the "strong mind strong trip" thing basically tells me you haven't a clue. Datan has such a strong mind that surgical anasthesia doesn't effect him, his mind and will are just that strong, wow. Datan's neurochemistry transcends the bounds of physics, wow again.

Ban me if you want but encouraging people to use datura is about the most irresponsible practice possible within the entheogen community.

datan said:

it is called ''malpitte'' in South Africa. If you direcly translate it to english its called crazy seeds. I consumed loads of ''malpitte'' back in the before wikipedia or internet!! For real if you tried acid or shrooms, defenitely try this shit out. Even better go to SA the shit grows wild and in copius amounts around coastal areas in the Western parts of SA. Its not that dangerous, only dangers is your mental health...strong mind strong trip...

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Joe Rogan stole that rant from Mckenna and the rest of that stuff about dmt is complete and total speculation on the part of Rick Strassman in his book covering his experiments with human subjects. Rick Strassman will be the first to tell you that the bit about dmt releases during birth and death has no factual evidence to back it up. If you don't believe me send him an email he is quite accessible and usually responds personally to his email.

Joe presents himself as an ignorant moron who lacks the ability to scrutinize what he reads.

For some reason that bit of speculation has become just about the biggest entheogen related urban legend in recent history.

Philly_Buddah said:

Ur brain releases a lot of DMT around when ur born, and when u die, from ur pineal gland aka The 3rd eye. Its supposed to be ur soul entering and leaving ur body. Ur brain also releases small amounts when u sleep. Its crazy to read up about and learn everything, def. the most interesting thing I ever studied in my life. Make sure when u do it, to remember all the rules. If u smoke it, do it right, 3 big hits and hold each in for as long as u can. If u ingest, take with an MAOI. And plz tell us what happened after u do it, thx.

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kdox88 said:

yeah, i'm almost positive 100% it was 2c-i.

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Since you are 100% positive you must have had it analyzed. Can you post the results?

I bought a gram of the stuff from canada. I have no idea what they sent but it is psychoactive and in line with the trip reports I've read. Honestly though, I have no way of knowing what it is. I'm not impressed with it.

I have alot of dmt (extracted from mimosa). It is incredible stuff but I feel that using it orally with a maoi is a more valuable, enriching experience than vaporizing the stuff.

Heyoka how about you take that attempted suicide thing to the next level and totally kill yourself and then you can release the real dmt without smoking or drinking it.and then to make your trip better you can have your loved ones take and get the chemical anaylzed to make sure that it was really dmt man. i mean you can never be to sure right. sorry man but if oyu come here to try to dog everyone and there opinions than you can jsut do it on another thread man. and i wasnt trying to convince people to do it but jsut to let them know it was out there.....people like you shouldnt be on here.

stoverdro said:

Heyoka how about you take that attempted suicide thing to the next level and totally kill yourself and then you can release the real dmt without smoking or drinking it.and then to make your trip better you can have your loved ones take and get the chemical anaylzed to make sure that it was really dmt man. i mean you can never be to sure right. sorry man but if oyu come here to try to dog everyone and there opinions than you can jsut do it on another thread man. and i wasnt trying to convince people to do it but jsut to let them know it was out there.....people like you shouldnt be on here.

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You sure burned me with that scathing retort.

^^ Yes i believe you just got served ...

Uh, oh! It's on....

Seriously, though, being a dick is my nature. I'm not trying to piss anyone off. I also have a major chip on my shoulder concerning the massive gulf between drug information presented by our schools, teachers, churchs and other mainstream sources relative to that presented by drug enthusiasts. It is a damn shame that ALL the information out there is so politically tainted. When I was a young person experimenting with drugs for the first few times I quickly learned that the horror show presented by the mainstream was bunk so I eagerly turned to drug enthusiasts believing their position a bit more moderate. Unfortunately that really isn't the case. We've our agenda, they've theirs. The unfortunate thing is that learning this the hard way causes alot of suffering and the young and ignorant suffer most.

One point that the majority of both positions can agree on is that Datura is very dangerous. That the left and the right can come to an agreement on some tidbit of drug information should be cause to pause.

yeah man its alright its jsut like i was throwing datura out there and actually knew it was very dangerous and that it really isnt the best thing to do.but i was also more into looking in the fact of other drugs or substances rather than shrooms or acid.im actually in the process of putting together a list of things to do other than that shit and hope oyu check it out.i know alot of people dont know everything ther eis and i hope that my post on datura helped inform people.im not trying to sway anyone im just throwing stuff out there and trying to give them info on it ya know. well anyways yeah dont trust anyone go to erowid and read the reports and find out from users ya know.

stoverdro said:

yeah man its alright its jsut like i was throwing datura out there and actually knew it was very dangerous and that it really isnt the best thing to do.but i was also more into looking in the fact of other drugs or substances rather than shrooms or acid.im actually in the process of putting together a list of things to do other than that shit and hope oyu check it out.i know alot of people dont know everything ther eis and i hope that my post on datura helped inform people.im not trying to sway anyone im just throwing stuff out there and trying to give them info on it ya know. well anyways yeah dont trust anyone go to erowid and read the reports and find out from users ya know.

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im looking forward to your list. even though i've put plenty of hours into research already. it would be worth it to maybe find something new. i thought about doing a list and putting a rating on everything, but im short in time and money so i put that in a list of future products.

Heyoka said:

Joe Rogan stole that rant from Mckenna and the rest of that stuff about dmt is complete and total speculation on the part of Rick Strassman in his book covering his experiments with human subjects. Rick Strassman will be the first to tell you that the bit about dmt releases during birth and death has no factual evidence to back it up. If you don't believe me send him an email he is quite accessible and usually responds personally to his email.
Joe presents himself as an ignorant moron who lacks the ability to scrutinize what he reads.
For some reason that bit of speculation has become just about the biggest entheogen related urban legend in recent history.

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So what are u trying to say? Do u just come on here to start arguments?

I read all about DMT from A LOT of different sources, reports, people, all over the place. I researched it for months. Everybody says DMT is released when ur born, u die, and small amounts when u sleep. Im not an expert so IDK, but Ive heard that from like 1,000 different places, and it would explain how ur body handles it so fast. If ur tryin to tell me its bullshit and DMT does nothing than I dare u to do it for urself, and I mean REALLY do it. Get some pure DMT extract and smoke it, take as big hits as u can, as many times as u can before u enter another realm of existence. Or take an MAOI or whatever and ingest it. Then come back here and try to say all this stuff. Its serious, Ive never even done it and I can say that.

Philly_Buddah said:

So what are u trying to say? Do u just come on here to start arguments?

I read all about DMT from A LOT of different sources, reports, people, all over the place. I researched it for months. Everybody says DMT is released when ur born, u die, and small amounts when u sleep. Im not an expert so IDK, but Ive heard that from like 1,000 different places, and it would explain how ur body handles it so fast. If ur tryin to tell me its bullshit and DMT does nothing than I dare u to do it for urself, and I mean REALLY do it. Get some pure DMT extract and smoke it, take as big hits as u can, as many times as u can before u enter another realm of existence. Or take an MAOI or whatever and ingest it. Then come back here and try to say all this stuff. Its serious, Ive never even done it and I can say that.

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Nah, not trying to start arguments, I'm just a tad too passionate at times and tend to overlook the value of harmony at times. IRIE mon, I'm working on it.

kdox88-yeah man when i start that list i do not know if it will give you anything new but i will hopefully be able to put how to make it on there to or links to sites at least how to prepare it and links to erowid trip reports. but i have been swamped busy lately and jsut got off of a 15 hour work shift so it might take longer than suspected....but once i do i hope that you add to the list so we can help people who know nothing of this other world.

and as for the conflicting arguments it okay to have a seperate opinion than another person but sometimes over the computer we can all sound like assholes and there is nothing we can do about it ya know....lets jsut all try to keep it down to a mininum and yes everythign ive heard about dmt is way intense and ive known people to have like taken 30 some hits of acid and tripped for days btu wont do dmt.....i know im fucking doing it!lol

holy shit hah would never do that shit after watching this, somebody might've already posted it

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damn man that video is pretty crazy but who says it was datura? just wondering cause he said roots and boiled em and i dont know anyone who has used the roots its usually the flower or seeds. either way man i feel bad for that guy i hope he eventually came down that shit is crazy.....

i started the post with some shit listed....its called "THE LIST"
i hope to add much moe soon but i am busy lately as hell.wanted to start it though

Stoverdro,

Ive been looking more into Datura lately, and I just wanted to say to be REAL careful with that shit. I read a lot of bad and crazy shit about it. Im pretty sure that u know that theres at least a possibility that some real bad stuff can happen, it can mess u up for life. Im not sayin u shouldnt do it at all, but just be careful with that, dont lose urself in the process.

yeah man with drugs that can fuck me up for life there is to much of a chance and i wouldnt even do it.after seeing that video i was like hell no. im in the army and could not trip for 3 months at all. i mena i knew the danger but like i cant believe people trip for 3 months.i know i wouldnt based off the dose i did but with the different levels of toxicity there are from plant to plant there will be no chance of me taking this....but i mena that was the wealth of this thread it informed everyone including me of all this shit ya know....thread was wellw orth it.....as i said before i posted a thread called THE LIST! its a collective information on other drugs out there than shrooms and acid for hallucinatory substances and then once i really get into this as i know a shit ton of names already i will post and post and post and keep updating it always taking other peoples info in and expanding on what i said.its hsuld be pretty good thread by the end of it but i been swamped so its off to a slow start.

Don't take jimson weed - you can overdose easily. This isn't weed or shrooms. Don't fuck around with this stuff.